Speculation: Baertschi to Montreal

[Nucker42]

Elliotte Friedmen mentioned on headlines that Montreal considered Baertschi before signing Kovalchuk.

Obviously its unlikely to happen now but I guess what it proves is that other teams still consider Baertschi an NHL.

He’s dominated the AHL and now doubt that he could contribute somewhere. Hopefully the Canucks can find a partner and retain some salary. Hate seeing quality players playing below their ability.

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[JTmillerForA1stLOL]

Negative value. They were probably "considering" him if a sweetener was included. They could have had him for free on two different occasions this year.

 

[CoopersFalls]

Kovalchuk > Baertschi

 

[Captain Mountain]

The fact that they chose Kovulchuk over Baertschi should tell you what his value is. Its negative.

 

[Nucker42]

The fact that they chose Kovulchuk over Baertschi should tell you what his value is. Its negative.

Signing Kovulchuk to a two way at 700k is why he was signed. Pretty sure he’s not getting signed if he even made 2 million.

 

[Nucker42]

Negative value. They were probably "considering" him if a sweetener was included. They could have had him for free on two different occasions this year.

I don’t think that’s relevant anymore... players get traded after being on waivers all the time. Too hard these days to take a contract without giving one up.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Signing Kovulchuk to a two way at 700k is why he was signed. Pretty sure he’s not getting signed if he even made 2 million.

Unless Baertschi was coming with a hell of a sweetener, Kovalchuk at 2 mil for the rest of the season is still a better deal.

 

[StreetHawk]

Kovalchuk > Baertschi

Term is the key difference. Not tied to Kovy after the season if he doesn’t perform. Would still be on the hook for Sven if he doesn’t.

 

[The Nuge]

Signing Kovulchuk to a two way at 700k is why he was signed. Pretty sure he’s not getting signed if he even made 2 million.

which is why Baertschi has negative value. If he came at 700k as well, I’m sure there’d be a taker. He only gets moved in exchange for a cap dump or with fairly significant retention

 

[Captain Mountain]

which is why Baertschi has negative value. If he came at 700k as well, I’m sure there’d be a taker. He only gets moved in exchange for a cap dump or with fairly significant retention

Hell, someone might take him for cheap if his deal expired after this season. The extra season is why he's unlikely to move.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

The fact that they chose Kovulchuk over Baertschi should tell you what his value is. Its negative.

I don’t disagree that Baer likely has negative value (unless retained), but what’s your logic behind this post? Of course Montreal would prefer a free agent at league minimum over making a trade and giving up an asset. How does Montreal signing Kovalchuk as a free agent indicate that Baer has negative value? Preferring one option over another doesn’t necessarily mean plan B had negative value.

 

[Captain Mountain]

I don’t disagree that Baer likely has negative value (unless retained), but what’s your logic behind this post? Of course Montreal would prefer a free agent at league minimum over making a trade and giving up an asset. How does Montreal signing Kovalchuk as a free agent indicate that Baer has negative value? Preferring one option over another doesn’t necessarily mean plan B had negative value.

Montreal chose a player that they could sign to a two way deal and give up nothing over Baertschi. Logically, that would lead one to believe that Baertschi has less value than an almost entirely free player.

Retention might change that, but Montreal has cap space and money to spend. They showed that in acquiring Scandella. The issue then is the player+contract (and specifically the term).

Is it absolute proof? No. But it is literally impossible to make any inference on this board under that burden of proof.

 

[Lenerdosy]

Baer will eventually be swapped for another guy whos buried in the minors from another organization probably.

 

[Cogburn]

Baer will eventually be swapped for another guy whos buried in the minors from another organization probably.

I mean if we can get a D (not Alzner) in a similar situation for a similar cap hit, bring it on. We always seem to get rolled flat by injuries.

If not, he, Goldy, Boucher and Rafferty can keep lighting up the A together.

 

[Notabaguette]

Svenny B for Alzner

 

[dbaz]

hes averaging 1.3 ppg in the ahl. a gm will take a chance on him later on in the season either tdl or the offseason. he will prob go for a 5th or a conditional.
hes still nhl calibre, hes just injury prone which is the big problem

 

[Ashdown2]

The fact that they chose Kovulchuk over Baertschi should tell you what his value is. Its negative.

ya the fact that no assets had to given to vancouver had nothing at all to do with that decision

 

[biturbo19]

I mean, sure...that's probably the sort of "tier" of player Baertschi is in these days. The sort that...if they were free agents, would get scooped up for $700k on a flyer. But with the contract Baertschi still has remaining...it's not really appealing to anyone, unless there's a comparable contract going back the other way.

 

[AveryStar4Eva]

The way he’s lighting up the AHL I bet he gets dealt in the offseason with money retained. Maybe someone will add him at this years deadline.

 

[ImNeverWrong]

sven is much better than kovalchuk. this guy should be on an NHL team. it's ridiculous how he's toiling in the AHL.

 

[Mike Jones]

Svenny B for Alzner

I was thinking of this as well. I'm wondering if Vancouver would have to retain salary in order for a deal to work. Even then, however, it sounds like it would have been tough to pull the trigger on something.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

If Nucks ate half his caphit, maybe there would be interest. But as it is, no team will take him off waivers.

 

[montreal]

If the nucks were willing to add something of value, the Habs would have been smart to take him as their AHL team is 2 pts back of the Nucks AHL team so getting their 2nd leading scorer for a banged up Laval team would have been smart.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

Montreal chose a player that they could sign to a two way deal and give up nothing over Baertschi. Logically, that would lead one to believe that Baertschi has less value than an almost entirely free player.

Retention might change that, but Montreal has cap space and money to spend. They showed that in acquiring Scandella. The issue then is the player+contract (and specifically the term).

Is it absolute proof? No. But it is literally impossible to make any inference on this board under that burden of proof.

The bolded makes no sense.

Of course a team would prefer a free asset (Kovalchuk as a free agent) over giving up something in a trade. That has no bearing on the latter's value. I really am having a difficult time following your logic because it makes no sense.

 

[StreetHawk]

The bolded makes no sense.

Of course a team would prefer a free asset (Kovalchuk as a free agent) over giving up something in a trade. That has no bearing on the latter's value. I really am having a difficult time following your logic because it makes no sense.

I doubt the Canucks are holding onto Sven because they are not getting value on a return. Teams simply don’t want to commit to the extra year. That’s why Frolik and Scandella got moved last week for Mid round picks because they are soon to be ufa.