Bad look for Evan Bouchard...ducks a hit and controller disconnects

[Three On Zero]

Someone went out and made a Bouchard video, you see him do this quite often dating back to seasons prior.

 

[AvroArrow]

Just shows how good Ekholm is to be over +60 during his time in Edmonton while being paired with Bouchard.

Ekholm is ELITE defensively, wanted him on Toronto so bad. Guy is tough, big and plays a mean game.

 

[Sniper99]

He's got a hard slapshot though

Something Reilly wishes he had.

 

[Three On Zero]

Ekholm is ELITE defensively, wanted him on Toronto so bad. Guy is tough, big and plays a mean game.

Ekholm was severely underrated due to being on Nashville. Holland really got away with grand larceny on that trade

 

[Skolman]

Yes, the +/- isn't the typical part. He plays with McDavid causing him to outscore his deficiencies. That doesn't make him a good defender.

For reference, Justin Holl is a plus player in both Toronto and Detroit yet he was healthy scratched for more than a month (all of February) this year with Detroit trying to trade him.

Thanks for pointing out he's +26 though. I hope he uses that on his next contract/arbitration case.

+26 PPG defencemen. What are we thinking? Got to start at Dahlin numbers. 11.5M?

If his +/- is irrelevant, maybe don't bring it up as to evidence why he's s*****.

"-2, typical game for Bouchard"

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

But he has a slap shot and passes puck to McDrai

 

[Hockeylife2018]

I've never understood why someone would get into hockey if they don't like physical contact lol

Thank God for that shot at least

 

[Czechboy]

 

[eviohh26]

He is elite in the Ozone. But pretty damn bad in his own zone. That can really hurt ya come playoff time.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Li

I'm not defending Matthews defence, I'm saying he was the best defender in the play and he's the centre.

Bouchard played 0 defence and went out of his way to avoid playing defence. I don't see how they're comparable.

You can argue Matthews was trying and played it poorly because he's not a defender. Where was Bouchard's effort as a defenceman?

Goalies are allowed to stand up. I think if Martin Jones realized he was 6'5 he wouldn't be a third string goalie. You're supposed to look over/around screens, not give up and pray.

Really the point you are ignoring is singular plays don’t mean a player is shit. Just like a single highlight reel goal doesn’t make a guy an Allstar.
Yall ignore 95% his regular play and just point out the 5% bad ones. Its disingenuous

 

[Three On Zero]

He is elite in the Ozone. But pretty damn bad in his own zone. That can really hurt ya come playoff time.

He was a big part in why they lost to Vegas

 

[CycloneSweep]

He was a big part in why they lost to Vegas

No he wasn’t. That was Ceci.

 

[Three On Zero]

No he wasn’t. That was Ceci.

And Bouchard

 

[lionsDen]

For easy back door tap in goal, yikes.



Here's the other play Buccigross is talking about from last Saturday. Not nearly as bad, but very disinterested in battling in the corner with MacKinnon and lets him retrieve puck and make the pass.

If he isn’t going for the pick and hits Matthew’s wouldn’t that be interference.

 

[Three On Zero]

If he isn’t going for the pick and hits Matthew’s wouldn’t that be interference.

Likely, but with 4 seconds left you take that penalty

 

[MS]

Again, numbers like this are pointless.

Bouchard-Ekholm get stacked in offensive situations with McDavid in 60-70% of their ES TOI.

You could take some shitty random pairing off Chicago or SJ and if you stack them in 60%+ zone starts playing most of their minutes with McDavid they're going to have a massive goal share %.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Again, numbers like this are pointless.

Bouchard-Ekholm get stacked in offensive situations with McDavid in 60-70% of their ES TOI.

You could take some shitty random pairing off Chicago or SJ and if you stack them in 60%+ zone starts playing most of their minutes with McDavid they're going to have a massive goal share %.

if the bottom with that was true then all the shit defenders who have played with McDavid would have crazy goal share %…but they don’t.
Just like people saying that a monkey would get 20 easy goals with McDavid a year and that’s proven untrue.
Like shit, of course Bouchard and Ekholm play more with McDavid, they are our best pairing.

Bouchard 60% EV min with McDavid, 63% o-zone starts
Makar 71% ice time with MacKinnon, 68% o-zone starts.

so by your logic we should ignore Makars stats cause he plays most of his time with MacKinnon and any 3rd liner can be Makar if he played with MacKinnon

 

[nbwingsfan]

He is what he is

Horrible defensively who more than makes up for it offensively

If EDM pays him like a #1D then they’re in trouble but if he’s slotted/paid as a sheltered top 4 guy then he’s great

 

[GreeningOil]

Again, numbers like this are pointless.

Bouchard-Ekholm get stacked in offensive situations with McDavid in 60-70% of their ES TOI.

You could take some shitty random pairing off Chicago or SJ and if you stack them in 60%+ zone starts playing most of their minutes with McDavid they're going to have a massive goal share %.

No they aren’t. That’s incredibly disingenuous.

Bouchard and Ekholm are both very good players. Bouch has warts in his game but do be reminded that a player who plays 20+ minutes a game against elite competition will have major gaffs at times.

Matthew’s ducked from an Oilers shot earlier this season. Does that mean he sucks at shot blocking? Absolutely not.

 

[Mrb1p]

Bouchard has some of the worst IQ in the league, this is nothing new. He gets moments where he just completely stops processing. Big body that can block space but thats pretty much it. His value as a player in on the PP and on the point, that's pretty much what you get.

 

[Soundwave]

He was a big part in why they lost to Vegas

Lets look at the tape, series tied 2-2, game 5 and 6



Game 5
Goal Against 1 - Weak on Skinner, nothing point floater that he doesn't play well and loses track of, Bjugstad soft on his coverage on Eichel.

Goal Against 2 - Vegas PP 5 on 3 goal, no one really at big fault here, guess you can blame Ceci if you want, would be nice to have a save there.

Goal Against 3 - Vegas 5-on-3 PP continues to a regular 5 on 4, puck takes a wonky bounce off McDavid, shit happens goal, Janmark/Broberg should be faulted for taking those penalties.

Goal Against 4 - Vegas scores with a floater from the point. This is a weak ass goal, Skinner needs to have that.

Goal Against 5 - Empty netter.


Game 6



Goal Against 1 - Skinner plays the puck weakly into the corner, Ekholm can't handle it, puck gets passed out right in front of the net. Maybe you can fault Bouchard for this but it's a stretch.

Goal Against 2 - Ceci floating in no man's land as part of Woodcroft's man on man system instead of being to the right side of the goalie.

Goal Against 3 - Draisaitl loses a puck battle, point shot isn't handled well by Skinner, Ceci is again not on the correct side of the net (probably again due to Woodcroft wanting to play man on man versus a zone D).

Goal Against 4 - Vegas PP, you would like a save here as it's not exactly a net front chance, although Desharnais is probably a little late in closing.

Goal Against 5 - Empty netter.


I don't see it. Maybe if you really stretch it you can say the 1st goal of game 6 is his fault, but he's in correct position there, Skinner/Ekholm made poor plays there.

Tight series, small little stretches in period 2 of both games opened it up for Vegas. Skinner needs to make a stop on some of these.

 

[Three On Zero]

Lets look at the tape, series tied 2-2, game 5 and 6



Game 5
Goal Against 1 - Weak on Skinner, Bjugstad soft on his coverage on Eichel

Goal Against 2 - Vegas PP goal, no one really at big fault here, guess you can blame Ceci if you want, would be nice to have a save there.

Goal Against 3 - Vegas 5-on-3, puck takes a wonky bounce off McDavid, shit happens goal, Janmark/Broberg should be faulted for taking those penalties.

Goal Against 4 - Vegas scores with a floater from the point. This is a weak ass goal, Skinner needs to have that.

Goal Against 5 - Empty netter.


Game 6



Goal Against 1 - Skinner plays the puck weakly into the corner, Ekholm can't handle it, puck gets passed out right in front of the net. Maybe you can fault Bouchard for this but it's a stretch.

Goal Against 2 - Ceci floating in no man's land as part of Woodcroft's man on man system instead of being to the right side of the goalie.

Goal Against 3 - Draisaitl loses a puck battle, point shot isn't handled well by Skinner, Ceci is against not on the correct side of the net (probably again due to Woodcroft wanting to play man on man versus a zone D).

Goal Against 4 - Vegas PP, Skinner needs to save that, although Desharnais is probably a little late in closing.

Goal Against 5 - Empty netter.


I don't see it. Maybe if you really stretch it you can say the 1st goal of game 6 is his fault, but he's in correct position there, Skinner/Ekholm made poor plays there.

Tight series, small little stretches in period 2 of both games opened it up for Vegas. Skinner needs to make a stop on some of these.

Sorry you put so much work into that post, no one’s going to read it.

The video I posted earlier already summed it up nicely

 

[Czechboy]

Again, numbers like this are pointless.

Bouchard-Ekholm get stacked in offensive situations with McDavid in 60-70% of their ES TOI.

You could take some shitty random pairing off Chicago or SJ and if you stack them in 60%+ zone starts playing most of their minutes with McDavid they're going to have a massive goal share %.

Maybe knoblauch is a genius and onto something. For some crazy reason he's playing our 2 best d with our best forwards. No idea why others don't try it.

Like, Imagine how Hedman would do if he got time with Kucherov. Or Makar if he ever got a shift with MacK. Or Hughes with Petterson. They should try it... seems like a solid idea.

 

[NOTENOUGHRYJOTHINGS]

if the bottom with that was true then all the shit defenders who have played with McDavid would have crazy goal share %…but they don’t.
Just like people saying that a monkey would get 20 easy goals with McDavid a year and that’s proven untrue.
Like shit, of course Bouchard and Ekholm play more with McDavid, they are our best pairing.

Bouchard 60% EV min with McDavid, 63% o-zone starts
Makar 71% ice time with MacKinnon, 68% o-zone starts.

so by your logic we should ignore Makars stats cause he plays most of his time with MacKinnon and any 3rd liner can be Makar if he played with MacKinnon

Makar is rightfully called out for being trash this year.

 

[Sugi21]

Must be his cross eyes can’t tell which way he’s going