Bad look for Evan Bouchard...ducks a hit and controller disconnects

[CycloneSweep]

This has been his scouting report for awhile
Literally go read his prospects page

This specific area of his game
He would rather give up possession in the corners, and doesn’t like to battle there

He has mostly ironed it out but sometimes still has brain farts.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

I first thought of Gonchar.

It’s Travis Moen with the puck. Gonchar has forward support on the backcheck and the other D is in position to cut off the middle of the ice. Moen has just one option. If Gonchar eliminates him after the chip, it’s a penalty. Giving up the low-danger (?) chance is the right play.

 

[CycloneSweep]

He ranks 46th for defenders with 1000+ minutes 5v5 in GA/60. Above notably shitty defenders like Makar and Pietrangelo
6th in xGA as well. So either Ekholm is the best defender in the league to cover for apparently the worst defender in the league, Oilers forwards are elite defensively (they aren’t), or Bouchard is far better defensively than a guy who “is so bad he is barely NHL quality defensively”.

Players make dumb plays sometimes, doesn’t erase the rest of their play

 

[Three On Zero]

This has been his scouting report for awhile
Literally go read his prospects page

This specific area of his game
He would rather give up possession in the corners, and doesn’t like to battle there

He’s the next generation Tyson Barrie, flashes of offensive brilliance but can’t be trusted defensively/physically

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I first thought of Gonchar.

Gonchar was actually half decent defensively.

 

[North Cole]

Yeah Morgan Rielly West.

 

[Czechboy]

What a loser

 

[Macheteops]

He’s soft. He lacks urgency in his game. At times it makes him look clueless and lazy while other times he looks poised and confident typically in the offensive zone

He does pair well with Ekholm. He has had decent stretches of quality D and with what he brings offensively he is easily a net positive player but you ll have to eat those mistakes as a team fairly frequently

I wouldn't be upset if he priced himself out of Edmonton and would have zero issues with him back at a fair price but if he is looking for Norris type money I'd pass

 

[Czechboy]

This thread is amazing.. Bouch has over a .ppg pace. Should we make a thread for every elite pass or shot too? Because they far outnumber the occasional stupid mistake. The reason I know they are occasional is because threads like this get made when he does do them.lol

It's probably TO driven this time although the usuals are here. Reminds me of when TO had Kessel and he'd scoring at a 50 Goal pace and all the media would focus on is how he doesn't backcheck like David Kampf.lol

So PLEASE open a thread every time this happens. No one will defend that play not even his own mother but he also had 2 points last night and Edmonton only had 3 goals.

 

[Coffey]

He’s soft. He lacks urgency in his game.

This applies to most of the team. The puck comes to them and they act like it's a midget player headed their way instead of an NHL one.

 

[Three On Zero]

What a loser

37 goals/primaries to 31 secondary assists, he’s been great but he’s always benefited heavily from who he plays with. That kind of point already doesn’t cancel out his defensive habits

 

[Czechboy]

Also, make sure to follow the steps to Bouch trashing...

1. Don't watch him and only watch highlights of his mistakes.
2. Make shit up - 'I've been told repeatedly he will win the Norris'... not one OIler fan has ever said that. Not ONE. But please keep arguing and quoting ghosts. FTR.. he will be in the talks and probably get a few votes.
3. quote stats that contradict each other! From this thread: 'his +/- was minus 2 last night'.. it means he sucks. But he's plus 29 on the season and near the top in plus/minus... 'that's because plus/minus is a meaningless stat and he plays with McD'.
4. give all the credit to everyone but him.. It's Ek ALL of it. It's McD doing ALL of it. His mistakes are his own. HIs successes are coaching and teamates only.
5. compare him to players nowhere near him in ability.. Marc Andre Bergeron is hillarious. Totaly the same tier of player. Barrie's career high is 59 points and Bouch his already at 69. MAB's career high is 34 points.

 

[Czechboy]

37 goals/primaries to 31 secondary assists, he’s been great but he’s always benefited heavily from who he plays with. That kind of point already doesn’t cancel out his defensive habits

Is that like how wins don't count if the PDO is too high? Or the shooting percentage is too high?

 

[Czechboy]

37 goals/primaries

Actually, can you post the table of D for goals and primary points only.. I'd love to see where he ranks just on his goals and primary points combined. Something tells me Top 10.

 

[CycloneSweep]

37 goals/primaries to 31 secondary assists, he’s been great but he’s always benefited heavily from who he plays with. That kind of point already doesn’t cancel out his defensive habits

His defensive habits that happen once in a blue moon? If Bouchard was as bad defensively as you say he is, his defensive metrics would also be horrid, and he wouldn’t have a very good goal differential.
So your clear bias against this player constantly just makes you look silly.

 

[CycloneSweep]

Actually, can you post the table of D for goals and primary points only.. I'd love to see where he ranks just on his goals and primary points combined. Something tells me Top 10.

Don’t have the chart for goals/first assists combined but he is 5th in goals, 8th in first assists and 3rd in secondary assists.

Hughes is 9th, 3rd and 1st…but weirdly main boards don’t shit on Hughes for his secondary assists.

 

[FoxysExpensiveNYDigs]

Pay this man his money. 9 mil AAV incoming.

 

[CycloneSweep]

37 goals/primaries to 31 secondary assists, he’s been great but he’s always benefited heavily from who he plays with. That kind of point already doesn’t cancel out his defensive habits

Quinn Hughes 42 goals/primaries to 38 secondary assists, he’s been great but he’s always benefit d heavily from who he plays with. That kind of point already doesn’t cancel out his defensive habits

Oh wait.

 

[Three On Zero]

His defensive habits that happen once in a blue moon? If Bouchard was as bad defensively as you say he is, his defensive metrics would also be horrid, and he wouldn’t have a very good goal differential.
So your clear bias against this player constantly just makes you look silly.

His defensive habits happen every game. You don’t need to rely on faulty advanced stats to see that, Ekholm covers up for a lot of his bad habits

 

[CycloneSweep]

H

His defensive habits happen every game. You don’t need to rely on faulty advanced stats to see that

They don’t happen every game?
Okay now answer me this. If Bouchard is abysmal, the advanced stats are wrong and he is making these awful plays all the time, then why isn’t he CONSTANTLY being scored on? Do the Oilers have elite offensive forwards to make up for it? Do we have incredible goaltending? Is Ekholm secretly one of the best defenders in the league?
If it’s constantly happening, and Bouchard is playing against a ton of tough competition, why was that only his second goal against this Month?

What’s the explanation there Mr “I know better than everyone”

 

[Czechboy]

Forgot one.. damn.

Leaf's posters - Austin Matthews is the best player in the world, he will score 70 goals, win the Hart and lead us to a cup. He is elite and better than everyone.

Matthews makes Bouch look stupid - Bouch is a bum and can't defend.

That was Matthews, right? This clip would be better if it was Kampf doing it.

 

[Three On Zero]

They don’t happen every game?
Okay now answer me this. If Bouchard is abysmal, the advanced stats are wrong and he is making these awful plays all the time, then why isn’t he CONSTANTLY being scored on? Do the Oilers have elite offensive forwards to make up for it? Do we have incredible goaltending? Is Ekholm secretly one of the best defenders in the league?
If it’s constantly happening, and Bouchard is playing against a ton of tough competition, why was that only his second goal against this Month?

What’s the explanation there Mr “I know better than everyone”

I don’t know better than an everyone, I just agree with what everyone else also sees from Bouchard

 

[CycloneSweep]

I don’t know better than an everyone, I just agree with what everyone else also sees from Bouchard

So you don’t have an explanation, just a hater. Got it.

 

[Czechboy]

what everyone else also sees

I mean, I'm sitting right here!lol

 

[sr edler]

At least Oilers D makes for high scoring games, isn't that what the mob wants. We should be happy.