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We can paint it any way we'd like, but there is a significant drop in PK ability from the trio of McClement/Galiardi/Winnik. I don't really want our top two centers consuming a bunch of PK time.
We can paint it any way we'd like, but there is a significant drop in PK ability from the trio of McClement/Galiardi/Winnik. I don't really want our top two centers consuming a bunch of PK time.
I don't know what PK you were watching last year but Duchene was consistently our best PK forward last year.
PK is a big part of why I want one of Heard or Malone centering the 4th line. Hell dream scenario sees a Bordy/Highlander/Olver - Heard - Malone 4th line where those later two would also be our top PK pair.
Heard is nowhere near ready for the NHL... he still needs time at the AHL level. Malone could probably play on the 4th line and pull some PK duties.
That's what I'd expect, but I've been surprised by players who had great camps and showed themselves to be further along than expected before. Which is why I'd let Heard compete with Malone for the spot, so that Malone needs to earn it, if he does, great Heard joins sgar and hishon in the A, if Heard beats out malone, that's also great cause it means Heard is further along than expected.
I would prefer getting a more proven 4th line center but that works too. Olver should be dumped. He can't play center and isn't any good.Brad Malone will make the team out of camp. Just my feeling.
Better player than Mark Olver, quite comfortably, and fills a need. Faceoffs and penalty killing.
Get John Mitchell out of my face, ffs.
When did Bordeleau ever prevent cheap shots on his teammates? Hell, when does an enforcer on any team ever prevent cheap shots? I've never seen guys like Cooke, Marchand or Briere ever have to fight an enforcer after a cheap shot or change their behavior due to the idea of retribution. It sounds like a nice idea, but I don't think it happens in practice.
I think you are wrong. I think having a big tough guy that the other team is truly scared of makes players think twice about trying to deliver that big blow to the star player.
All those years we had Scott Parker out there, other teams laid off the Sakics Hejduks and Tanguays of the world because they knew that Parker was around.
PK is a big part of why I want one of Heard or Malone centering the 4th line. Hell dream scenario sees a Bordy/Highlander/Olver - Heard - Malone 4th line where those later two would also be our top PK pair.
I think you are wrong. I think having a big tough guy that the other team is truly scared of makes players think twice about trying to deliver that big blow to the star player.
All those years we had Scott Parker out there, other teams laid off the Sakics Hejduks and Tanguays of the world because they knew that Parker was around.
I think it's pretty amazing he can accomplish that when he's on the bench 54 minutes a game. And when he isn't he's generally playing against the bottom pairing defensemen and fourth liners.
It's called intimidation. Would you not think twice about running a player if you knew that there was a possibility that if you did so, that you might be matched up with him for the rest of the hockey game?
It's called intimidation. Would you not think twice about running a player if you knew that there was a possibility that if you did so, that you might be matched up with him for the rest of the hockey game?
I think the other team would love the Avs matching Bordeleau up with any NHL player "for the rest of the hockey game." That's not the point.
Opposing coaches would drool over the prospect of continually getting one of their top three lines out against Bordeleau, especially one of the top two lines. Game over.
All one has to do is look up the avs win loss record when scott Parker was in the line up. I believe it was easily over .600.
I'm kind of on the fence with this debate. I get the theory behind the heavyweight deterrent, but how often do true heavyweights fight anyone but another heavyweight? And correspondingly (with the discrete line matchups coaches do these days) how often is a heavyweight playing against the other teams' top line guys?
Do you think he's going to be a scoring line winger or something? The guy is, and always will be, a 4th liner. He's a monster that can fight, skate, and hits a lot. If you actually watched games, you'd know teams hesitated quite often because of his physical play, and it lead to tons of turnovers and some scoring chances. At 1M, and as a 4th liner, he's perfectly fine.
It's not just about him fighting heavyweights. Him pushing around guys in scrums that are scared to push back gives off the impression the Avs aren't to be pushed around themselves. It's the Alpha thing. You have two groups yelling at each other and beating their chests, and eventually one side starts to get intimidated and shuts up. This can change things in games.
Him staring at and yelling at the opposition not to come anywhere near their guys or they'll have to answer to him (aka olver) gets them to shut up and settle down real quick,
Him lining guys up for freight train hits gives him a reputation that you have to pay attention to him out there, and guys can't just focus on having an easy breakout.