Confirmed with Link: Avs re-sign Cogliano 1-year × $1.25

[Richard88]

Nice signing, glad he's back.

Obviously super positive news! But to nitpick a couple of things:

First, we'll see how things play out with the cap but every little bit adds up. That extra $250k could have been useful for accruing capspace and/or covering bonuses to avoid overages in 2023. I wouldn't have minded two years at a lower AAV, but Sakic hates term and it's probably prudent to go only one year with a 35 year old depth guy.

Secondly, and this is just a minor concern, but I do think it's worth asking how hungry 35+ guys are going to be when they've already won a cup.

HFAvs 4 months ago: Why the f*** did we waste a 4th on this washed up scrub!?

HFAvs today: f*** yes we brought him back another year!


But seriously, glad he’s back. He was a warrior for us, played physical and was a contributor in the playoffs.

It was a 5th not 4th

 

[floppa]

 

[Raucherhusten]

First McSomething, then Franky, now Coggs. The CORE ist still runnin my friends.
Helm and JMFJ are still missing tho ...

 

[HockeyFan100]

SUPER happy about this! 1.25 million is a steal.

 

[Richard88]

This is great, and couldn't have been said at a better time. Hope the rest of the league's UFA's are listening...

 

[Raucherhusten]

It was a 5th not 4th

Even worse!

 

[TheForsbergShow]

Nice signing, glad he's back.

Obviously super positive news! But to nitpick a couple of things:

First, we'll see how things play out with the cap but every little bit adds up. That extra $250k could have been useful for accruing capspace and/or covering bonuses to avoid overages in 2023.

Secondly, and this is just a minor concern, but I do think it's worth asking how hungry 35+ guys are going to be when they've already won a cup.

Helm already had a cup and put his body on the line every shift. Cogliano doesn't seem like a player that will just mail it in cause he won it, especially if it means trying to help newcomers win their first cup or to win a second time. He seems like a guy that will do anything he can for the team, these guys have too much pride and after having that feeling of winning I'm sure want to experience it again.

 

[Oblivion Beckons]

Copy paste for Helm?

 

[Richard88]

Helm already had a cup and put his body on the line every shift. Cogliano doesn't seem like a player that will just mail it in cause he won it, especially if it means trying to help newcomers win their first cup or to win a second time. He seems like a guy that will do anything he can for the team, these guys have too much pride and after having that feeling of winning I'm sure want to experience it again.

Those shot blocks and broken bones add up. We already saw how Helm coasted through the regular season to manage his body. If they can turn it on in the playoffs like Helm did though then it's all good. And as I said, it's a very minor concern.

 

[Richard Doll]

Good signing. Even if he ends up having to rotate in and out on the 4th line, his experience come playoff time is so valuable to us.

 

[LTC Pain]

Helm won a Stanley Cup his first year and his last..........

 

[Belgican]

We saw Cogs and Helm were guys you need to win a Cup, great signing, I hope Helm will follow now with quite same numbers

 

[ASmileyFace]

It will be good to see him back.

 

[TheForsbergShow]

Those shot blocks and broken bones add up. We already saw how Helm coasted through the regular season to manage his body. If they can turn it on in the playoffs like Helm did though then it's all good. And as I said, it's a very minor concern.

Forsure, at this point I'm not concerned about the reg season stuff. As long as he goes hard in the playoffs that's all I care about lol. This team has too much talent to need to go out 100% every game and win. I think them coasting and resting in reg season was actually beneficial to them overall in the long run.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

I get that... but the Avs basically have one RFA contract that can be squeezed, Lehk. Rest of Avs players that could or need to be re-signed are UFAs. In the case of guys like Kadri, Nuke, Manson, and Kuemper 250k can be a difference.

I don't think so. Even for a Manson contract, 250k x 4 is 1 mill and he is looking at 20M. So it's 5%. Front load a contract and you can easily get 5% return per year over 4 years.

 

[henchman21]

I don't think so. Even for a Manson contract, 250k x 4 is 1 mill and he is looking at 20M. So it's 5%. Front load a contract and you can easily get 5% return per year over 4 years.

But they can get the extra 250k elsewhere and get the return.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Everything we've heard was that he's a big guy in the room.

Happy with that.

… how big we talking here?

 

[GirardSpinorama]

But they can get the extra 250k elsewhere and get the return.

They could also get extra 2 mill AAV else where. The Avs need to make a competitive offer, but that does not mean top of market offer.

 

[henchman21]

They could also get extra 2 mill AAV else where. The Avs need to make a competitive offer, but that does not mean top of market offer.

Doesn't need to be the best offer... but the 250k can mean something to UFAs and it harder to get a deal from them. It can be a deal breaker. RFAs you can squeeze in different ways with various levels of backlash down the line.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Doesn't need to be the best offer... but the 250k can mean something to UFAs and it harder to get a deal from them. It can be a deal breaker. RFAs you can squeeze in different ways with various levels of backlash down the line.

If 250k AAV on a 4M AAV contract is a deal breaker, that player wanted to leave anyways. But it's way more likely 250K is a deal breaker on a 1M AAV contract. So you kind of just have to make a good call on which player you can squeeze from. You don't want to lose a player like Cogliano just over 250k though.

 

[henchman21]

If 250k AAV on a 4M AAV contract is a deal breaker, that player wanted to leave anyways. But it's way more likely 250K is a deal breaker on a 1M AAV contract. So you kind of just have to make a good call on which player you can squeeze from. You don't want to lose a player like Cogliano just over 250k though.

Just as a theoretical... I'd much rather lose Cogs over 250k than Nuke over 250k (or 500k for that matter).

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Just as a theoretical... I'd much rather lose Cogs over 250k than Nuke over 250k (or 500k for that matter).

Same here. But if the difference is only 250k for nuke, Sakic would make a move to figure it out. You can go over the cap in the off season.

 

[henchman21]

Same here. But if the difference is only 250k for nuke, Sakic would make a move to figure it out. You can go over the cap in the off season.

The point here of signing Cogs early is to get a total budget amount. Yeah players can be moved and it can be figured out... but the 250k is now gone. Too early to say what that impact will be, if any.

 

[Belgican]

Are you really all serious about 250k ? The guy deserved it, that’s all what matters, and it won’t hurt any other signing, on the contrary guys will want to stay with the Avs knowing Cogs comes back too

 

[Cypher]

At least we know Sakic isn't still hungover