But Miller isn't a bad cap dump. Sure I criticize him plenty but he's more than serviceable as a number 4 two way defender. He's not perfect but he's not a pure cap dump. He's not going to be a bench rider. Regardless of where he goes. You add Tuch to Miller and you're getting a top 6 winger with high upside and a very usable if flawed second pair defenseman who does well as a second PP unit QB. That's a lot. I know Barrie isn't chump change himself but what Vegas is looking at is a guy who is basically Miller that's better where Miller is weak. It's a good upgrade but they also have Shea Theodore, Nate Schmidt, and Nic Hague so players of Barrie's type aren't a huge need. Then we get another draft pick which is good. But the total package Vegas is getting makes them immediately worse. With no definite prospect of pick 16 making them any better or evening out. I'm not saying the original proposal was fair, but adding Tuch to it with nothing else back from Colorado is overkill.
As for Glass, don't get me wrong. I think he could play in the NHL today. I just don't think he should just yet. He's had his stint slamming the WHL with his talent but he's on more even footing in the AHL right now. I'd rather he take the time to refine his talents and adapt to the size and speed of that league before jumping into the NHL. The kid is a fantastic passing talent and has as high a hockey IQ as any prospect I've seen. He just hasn't translated those talents into something I'd consider truly poised for NHL stardom just yet. Plus even though he's added a little size to his frame he's still pretty lanky and I'd like him to build up some more too. He's a guy that will go into dirty areas to forecheck and work behind the net and along the boards but he needs more size if he's gonna do it properly in the NHL. Of course that's all just my opinion. We'll see what Gallant thinks this September.
Quick thoughts on the bad trade:
-Agree that Barrie isn't really a need
-You're massively underrating Barrie as a player though
- Anything more just highlights why the trade was so bad, Barrie wouldn't be worth what he would cost for VGK
On Glass:
We see guys coming in younger and younger and I don't see too much more reason to keep him in the AHL where he is already slaying it and is slightly under a PPG. From the games I have watched and his numbers he is ready and I think he would develop better in the NHL at this point anyways. I will be pretty darned shocked if he isn't in the NHL next year and I think 10 games in everyone will be shocked he wasn't called up sooner.
My question is, lets say WK stays: what is the max AAV you think he is worth and who does VGK ship out to pay him?
Lets say he is going to be moved: What return are you looking for?