Value of: Available players on Buffalo

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

A simple list of core players on Buffalo before your next terrible trade offer generously extends Buffalo’s rebuild into the next century.

Not available/unavailable/No/Nein: (not even for the “best you’ll get” equivalent of Ryder, Halak, and a 2nd)

Dahlin
Eichel
ROR
Ristolainen
Reinhart
Mittelstadt
Scandella

Available:

Matt Moulson
Zach Bogosian
Jake McCabe
Nathan Beaulieau
Robin, unjustified rage, Lehner
Kyle Okposo
Zemgus Girgensens
Jacob Larson
Alex Nylander (just to stop the stupid “brother trades”)
Ville Leino

Howard
Dekeyser

For

Moulson
Bogosian
Davidsson
Conditional 2nd 2019(Sabres make the playoffs)

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I would ask for the 3rd and settle on the 4th.

Problem is that you'd be asking for a pick we don't have.

 

[Chainshot]

Problem is that you'd be asking for a pick we don't have.

Like, no 3rd rounders ever? I'm not picky.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Like, no 3rd rounders ever? I'm not picky.

Nope, Tom Dundon has said he believes the 3rd round is unlucky and has vowed to trade away all 3rd rounders from here on out. Sorry to let you down.

 

[Chainshot]

Nope, Tom Dundon has said he believes the 3rd round is unlucky and has vowed to trade away all 3rd rounders from here on out. Sorry to let you down.

Careful if he interviews Chuck Fletcher. He seemed to have an allergy to the 2nds in Minny.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Careful if he interviews Chuck Fletcher. He seemed to have an allergy to the 2nds in Minny.

Which would suck for Carolina.

2nd round picks
2009: Dumoulin
2010: Faulk
2011: Rask
2012: McGinn and DiGuiseppe
2013: no 2nd rounder, but Pesce was their 2nd pick in the draft.
2014: Needaspellcheck (meh)
2015: Aho

 

[Kraken Jokes]

I'd be interested in McCabe from MTL. What would Buffalo expect back?

 

[Chainshot]

I'd be interested in McCabe from MTL. What would Buffalo expect back?

He's their 2nd "best" LHD on the roster behind Scandella. Which isn't saying much, but without the expansion draft causing them a need to move him, it would have to be some sort of comparable level of LHD coming back.

 

[Mickey Marner]

I will give you a conditional 7th for the lot of I don't waive every single one of them.

 

[Chainshot]

Which would suck for Carolina.

2nd round picks
2009: Dumoulin
2010: Faulk
2011: Rask
2012: McGinn and DiGuiseppe
2013: no 2nd rounder, but Pesce was their 2nd pick in the draft.
2014: Needaspellcheck (meh)
2015: Aho

In terms of scouting, do Canes fans ever worry that some other team is going to Belichek the Carolina draft list? It's like, need a d-man in the mid-rounds, go ask Carolina who to pick.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

In terms of scouting, do Canes fans ever worry that some other team is going to Belichek the Carolina draft list? It's like, need a d-man in the mid-rounds, go ask Carolina who to pick.

Nah, Our recent futility in the 1st round scares them away.

Lindholm over Monahan
Fleury over Ehlers/Nylander
Hanifin over Provorov/Werenski
Bean over McAvoy

At least it looks good with Necas in 2017 and hopefully they don't screw up this draft.

 

[Kraken Jokes]

He's their 2nd "best" LHD on the roster behind Scandella. Which isn't saying much, but without the expansion draft causing them a need to move him, it would have to be some sort of comparable level of LHD coming back.

Surprising. I figured the reason you were looking to move him was to make room for Dahlin on LD.

 

[Chainshot]

Surprising. I figured the reason you were looking to move him was to make room for Dahlin on LD.

I'd prefer Dahlin on RD personally. And if they do plug him in on his forehand, McCabe's a cheap option for third pairing duty to get the comedy styling of Nathan Below-eeewww out of the lineup.

 

[go4hockey]

Hey you can’t trade Moulson, he is playing well in Ontario.

 

[Newsworthy]

Can't help but notice that your available players are the ones other teams want the least.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Can't help but notice that your available players are the ones other teams want the least.

It's almost as if we want to keep the ~6 good players we have and replace the bad players with decent ones.

 

[57special]

BUF is panicking because Fletcher is no longer a GM- who will they fleece for players?

 

[paulmm3]

I don't feel like Buffalo is in a position to do tons on the trade front because most of our players are either untouchable or with very little trade value

 

[explore]

Buffalo needs NHL players aged 22-28 (arbitrary range to give an idea) that are stuck behind better players on teams with depth at the position or stuck in the minors.

Cost should be around a 3rd or later, or similar exchange of players.

Third/fourth line Forwards: can skate, play defensive role, contributes 0-20 points.

Bottom pair defenseman: same as above, points less important.

 

[Chainshot]

BUF is panicking because Fletcher is no longer a GM- who will they fleece for players?

Have we heard if he has interviewed for the Carolina job yet? Asking for a friend.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

I guess if every team did this then we wouldn't need to have this forum..

Good or bad trade offers I still enjoy reading them

Considering Lehner is an RFA and likely to be traded or non-tendered, Moulson, Pominville are UFA's next off season, you're wrong. Some of this will not be available next year for trade. Just to be politically correct. There are others that we would gauge interest in.

Rasmus Ristolainen, RD
Ryan O'Reilly, C
Justin Bailey, RW
Nicolas Baptiste, RW
Hudson Fasching, RW

 

[UnleashRasmus]

I see no point in trading Nylander. Hf boards are down on him, so nothing of value will be offered. Might as well keep him and see what he turns into. Girginsons is cheap. He could use a change of scenery. Maybe trade him for a veteran like a Steve Ott type guy?

I do at this point he's shown that he can skate, however. He has shown that he's not willing to provide efficient defense in his own zone. Deficiencies in his shot selection and passing. He's available if the return is justified. Anyone within reason that wasn't a Botterill guy should be available and even a few there (Beaulieu etc) should be.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

Isn't Poms that?

He was terrible last year, and the room became utterly toxic. While there is plenty of blame to go around, he surely didn't help anything. Gionta seems to have been a better vocal leader at least from an eye's perspective.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

ROR,+ McCabe for Stepan, Domi,Hjarlmarsson

I'm really not sure how so many Buffalo Sabres fans are enamored with Domi. He doesn't play a lick of defense and is coming off a terrible stretch of a year and a half of hockey. For me, it's going to take a whole hell of a lot more than Stepan and Domi plus a possible walking UFA within a season. Yes, I realize that Domi is only 21, and can skate just fine. He has to find his shot and this just doesn't do it for me for O'Reilly.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

What's the situation with Bogosian? Aside from the constant injury issues, how is his play?

We'll take a 7th in 2021 if you want him in current condition. (Bare minimum, bottom of the barrel type return). We could also talk about an expiring contract in 2018-19 to get rid of him regardless.