Auston Matthews vs. Patrick Kane for ONLY next year's RS + Playoffs

[Nate070]

I think the real question is Kane vs Marner

 

[skiba77777]

Matthews easily. Kane won’t be in the playoffs so the fact he’s a clutch playoff performer is irrelevant for next season.

I don't think you understood the point of the poll.

Not to mention there's a good chance the Hawks are back in the playoffs next year.

 

[BlueMed]

I think the real question is Kane vs Marner

Kane and who?

 

[Captain97]

Kane is just too clutch in the playoffs

 

[Lays]

Kane, no question. And I like AM34 more than the average non Leafs fan

 

[Midnight Judges]

Kane is going to be 33 this season and Matthews had the far better season last year, so it seems to me Matthews has passed Kane at this point in time.

 

[Varan]

Kane is going to be 33 this season and Matthews had the far better season last year, so it seems to me Matthews has passed Kane at this point in time.

You are lacking context. Matthews had the #4 scorer in the league on his line.

Kane made Alex DeBrincat a PPG player.

 

[Karl Eriksson]

Kane not close. I’d say two years even.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Goals Matthews
Points Kane

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

You are lacking context. Matthews had the #4 scorer in the league on his line.

Kane made Alex DeBrincat a PPG player.

Why is this always a thing on here? I see it all the time with Jake Guentzel, too. It makes it sound like the star player turned someone who would otherwise be a 40 or 50 point guy into a guy that produces like an 80 point guy.

 

[Varan]

Why is this always a thing on here? I see it all the time with Jake Guentzel, too. It makes it sound like the star player turned someone who would otherwise be a 40 or 50 point guy into a guy that produces like an 80 point guy.

Because Alex DeBrincat was never a PPG player. He has point totals of 52/76/45 in his last 3 seasons prior to 2021.

Yeah, he was technically a "50-point guy"

And yes, Crosby was a big factor in Jake's ascension

 

[Canadiens Ghost]

Although Matthews might have a better regular season. Kane will bring it when it matters most. Kane without a doubt.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Because Alex DeBrincat was never a PPG player. He has point totals of 52/76/45 in his last 3 seasons prior to 2021.

Yeah, he was technically a "50-point guy"

So a guy who managed to score 52 points as a rookie, 76 points, and 45 in 70 games (53 point pace) was technically a 50 point guy? What kind of math is that where you describe a guy who has produced higher than 50 points (and in one case 76 points) as a "50-point guy"?

That's like calling Crosby an 80 point guy or Kane a 70 point guy.

And yes, Crosby was a big factor in Jake's ascension

Massive difference between a player benefiting from playing with an elite player and a player being *made* by the elite player.

 

[Varan]

So a guy who managed to score 52 points as a rookie, 76 points, and 45 in 70 games (53 point pace) was technically a 50 point guy? What kind of math is that where you describe a guy who has produced higher than 50 points (and in one case 76 points) as a "50-point guy"?

That's like calling Crosby an 80 point guy or Kane a 70 point guy.

Well he had played 3 seasons and 2/3 he had produced 52 or lower. His jump from 52 to 76 points was a huge breakout, but then he went back down to 45 points (I'll give you the 53 points he was pacing for). Seems like he regressed back to the mean?

Using his point-pace for 53 points in 2020, he was averaging 60.3 points/season. "50-point guy" was wrong, my bad.

I'll give you "60-point guy". But that is nowhere near PPG. That's a 20-point increase. He was clearly not a PPG player by any means.

Massive difference between a player benefiting from playing with an elite player and a player being *made* by the elite player.

Who says Alex wouldn't be made in another season or so by Kane? This is year 1 of him being PPG, let's see how it plays out

 

[Varan]

Goals Matthews
Points Kane

This... isn't even an answer LOL

 

[Pyrophorus]

This... isn't even an answer LOL

You did specify how to quantify these players

 

[Varan]

You did specify how to quantify these players

I asked who would you rather have, not that stats they will put up

 

[Pyrophorus]

I asked who would you rather have, not that stats they will put up

The 23 year old.