Auston Matthews current rank among NHLers

[34]

Those professional rankings left Kucherov out of the top 25

They also left Willy Nylander out, who is the best Swede forward in the NHL.

 

[keglu]

This is the top 5 currently

1 McDavid
2 Matthews
3 MacKinnon
4 Kucherov
5 Makar

Good article here with professional rankings of the top players right now in the NHL

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10096805-ranking-the-nhls-top-25-players-for-2023-24

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Mackinnon was significantly better last year, and is better this year.

 

[BraveCanadian]

That’s another reason why these types of stats have low reliability. The human inputting the stats flaws the data. At home AM gets credited with hits. The person inputting could be biased, and likely is. This isn’t just about AM though. It’s likely true throughout the league. The human bias in the home rink negatively affects reliability.
Imo AM is a top 15 player, when including D and goalies.

It is the same with all the subjective stats - shots, shot attempts, giveaways, takeaways, hits.. whatever.

Pretty sure I remember several people crunching the numbers on the shot counters for New Jersey and supposedly they undercounted (I think it was?) for years.

 

[34]

Looks like 34 and 97 will be captains

 

[Cup or Bust]

He is definitely a top 10 player, even top 5 in most cases.

 

[lipstickjunkie]

Hard to make a case for anyone outside of McDavid and MacKinnon to be ahead of him.

 

[Sens9292]

Hard to make a case for anyone outside of McDavid and MacKinnon to be ahead of him.

He needs to stop disappearing in the playoffs to be considered that high.

 

[NyQuil]

They also left Willy Nylander out, who is the best Swede forward in the NHL.

Sounds like he’s going to be paid like it.

 

[34]

Sounds like he’s going to be paid like it.

He deserves it.

He needs to stop disappearing in the playoffs to be considered that high.

McDavid and the Oilers have had no more success in the playoffs than Matthews and the Leafs. neither team has done anything in the post season.

 

[DearDiary]

McDavid and the Oilers have had no more success in the playoffs than Matthews and the Leafs. neither team has done anything in the post season.

Where was either team mentioned in their post? Or do you associate pronouns with businesses?

 

[34]

Where was either team mentioned in their post? Or do you associate pronouns with businesses?

No no, his post was referencing that McDavid has taken his team to the Cup as MacKinnon did with team. That has simply not been the truth. The Oilers have not won nothing.

 

[Slats432]

I didn't read the thread, but the 11 of you who voted #1 need to figure out what "best" is. I have him solid top 5. Strong thoughts for top 3. McDavid is the best player on the planet.

 

[drktmplr12]

Better than mcdavid folks

 

[Revansky]

Voted top 5. Difficult to put him ahead off mcdavid and mackinnon. After that Makar, Hughes and Kucherov are arguably in the mix this year. Woud put him fifth. In front of all the more profuctive wingers because of his two way game, impressive goalscoring ability and bigger impact overall.

 

[Isaac Nootin]

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Better than mcdavid folks

Got a problem?

 

[Faceboner]

Hard to make a case for anyone outside of McDavid and MacKinnon to be ahead of him.

Pasta and maybe panarin

 

[Dion TheFluff]

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Better than mcdavid folks

Hmm why don't you call out the people who only had him top 20 or top 50 as well to?

 

[Joe n]

That’s another reason why these types of stats have low reliability. The human inputting the stats flaws the data. At home AM gets credited with hits. The person inputting could be biased, and likely is. This isn’t just about AM though. It’s likely true throughout the league. The human bias in the home rink negatively affects reliability.
Imo AM is a top 15 player, when including D and goalies.

There is bias in every rink. You don't think the people counting hits at the visitor's rinks aren't biased as well. It's a subjective stat that should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

[lipstickjunkie]

Pasta and maybe panarin

A couple of one-dimensional wingers? Nah.

 

[lipstickjunkie]

One of the greatest goal scorers the league has ever seen who also gets Selke votes every year. Yup, top 50, folks.

 

[drktmplr12]

Hmm why don't you call out the people who only had him top 20 or top 50 as well to?

No one is stopping you.

 

[Faceboner]

A couple of one-dimensional wingers? Nah.

Pasta is more physical than matthews

 

[Fatass]

There is bias in every rink. You don't think the people counting hits at the visitor's rinks aren't biased as well. It's a subjective stat that should be taken with a grain of salt.

100% agree. The data going into many of these stats is garbage. Garbage in = garbage out.

 

[Ben White]

Matthews is an incredible and unique sniper. Some of you guys should chill in terms of Leaf hate

 

[Ben White]

Top 50

McDavid
MacKinnon
Kucherov
Matthews
Makar

Pastrnak
Q. Hughes
Draisaitl
Pettersson
Panarin
J. Hughes

M. Tkachuk
Crosby
Karlsson
Fox
Nylander
Kaprizov
Rantanen
Marner

Bedard
Point
Hedman
Marchand
McAvoy
Barkov
Zibanejad
Stutzle
Eichel
Thompson
Dahlin
Robertson

Forsberg
Josi
Aho
Miller
Bratt
Reinhart
Hintz
Stone
Tavares
Heiskanen
O’Reilly
Guentzel
Morrissey
Kempe
DeBrincat
Dobson
Thomas
Barzal
Eriksson Ek