ATD2020 Draft Thread III

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BenchBrawl

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ALL-TIME DRAFT 2020!

The draft will last 24 rounds. You must draft 2 goalies, 6 defensemen, 12 forwards, a coach and 4 extra picks.

1) The clock starts Monday, January 20th at 17h00 (EST).

2). The time windows will be tight but reasonable.
24 hour clock for round 1
then 12 hour clock for round 2
then 10 hour clock for rounds 3-6,
then 8 hour clock for rounds 7-14,
then 6 hour clock for rounds 15-20,
then 4 hour clock for rounds 21-25

One hour time window deduction for each skipped pick (two hour deduction for missing a 12 hour clock - leave a list), with a minimum 4 hour clock guaranteed regardless of deductions.

3). NO TRADING

4). ADD/DROPS - At the conclusion of the draft, there will be a 7 day period for add/drops. All add/drops must be 1-for-1. Dropped players will NOT be eligible to be added by other teams.

5). Regular season rankings MUST BE VOTED ON by at least one GM per team. The penalty if not done is a potential lowering in the standings because each GM will rank his own team first. Co-GMs who both vote each get half a vote for the regular season rankings in their own division.

6). NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS!!!

7). PM the next GM after you have made your pick. THIS IS NOT OPTIONAL!

Deductions
- GlitchMarner (-1 hour)
- Voight (-1 hour)
- Hawkey Town 18 (-3 hour)
- BenchBrawl (-1)
- TheDevilMadeMe (-1)
- papershoes (-1)

Round 1

1.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Bobby Orr, D
2.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - Wayne Gretzky, C
3.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Gordie Howe, RW
4.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Mario Lemieux, C
5.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Doug Harvey, D
6.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Ray Bourque, D
7.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Jean Béliveau, C
8.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Denis Potvin, D
9.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Maurice Richard, RW
10.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Bobby Hull, LW
11.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Sidney Crosby, C
12.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Patrick Roy, G
13.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Nicklas Lidstrom, D
14.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet - Eddie Shore, D
15.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Dominik Hasek, G
16.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Howie Morenz, C
17.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - Red Kelly, D/C
18.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Slava Fetisov, D
19.Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Larry Robinson, D
20.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Jaromir Jagr, RW
21.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Alexander Ovechkin, LW
22.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Frank Nighbor, C
23.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Guy Lafleur, RW
24.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Chris Chelios, D
25.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Stan Mikita, C
26.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Paul Coffey, D
27.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Jacques Plante, G
28.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Mark Messier, C
29.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Sergei Makarov, RW
30.tabness - Calgary Radz - Steve Yzerman, C
31.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Glenn Hall, G
32.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Bryan Trottier, C
33.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Bill Cook, RW
34.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Joe Sakic, C
35.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Bobby Clarke, C
36.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Cyclone Taylor, C/D
37.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - King Clancy, D
38.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Phil Esposito, C
39.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Ted Lindsay, LW
40.tabness - Oakland Skates - Al MacInnis, D

Round 2

41.tabness - Oakland Skates - Chris Pronger, D
42.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Martin Brodeur, G
43.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Brad Park, D
44.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - Mike Bossy, RW
45.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Valeri Kharlamov, LW
46.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Scott Stevens, D
47.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Zdeno Chara, D
48.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Frank Boucher, C
49.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Pierre Pilote, D
50.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Brian Leetch, D
51.tabness - Calgary Radz - Jari Kurri, RW
52.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Vladislav Tretiak, G
53.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Sprague Cleghorn, D
54.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Henri Richard, C
55.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Terry Sawchuk, G
56.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Tim Horton, D
57.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Charlie Conacher, RW
58.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Earl Seibert, D
59.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Ken Dryden, G
60.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Bill Gadsby, D
61.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Peter Forsberg, C
62.Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Syl Apps Sr., C
63.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Newsy Lalonde, C
64.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - Bernie Geoffrion, RW
65.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Borje Salming, D
66.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Milt Schmidt, C
67.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet - Ted Kennedy, C
68.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Rod Langway, D
69.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Mark Howe, D
70.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Dit Clapper, D/RW
71.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Eddie Gerard, D/LW
72.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Elmer Lach, C
73.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Frank Brimsek, G
74.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Duncan Keith, D
75.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Andy Bathgate, RW
76.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Dickie Moore, LW
77.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Martin St. Louis, RW
78.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Anatoli Firsov, LW
79.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - Cy Denneny, LW
80.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Aurele Joliat, LW

Round 3

81.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Joe Malone, C/LW
82.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - Valeri Vasiliev, D
83.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Drew Doughty, D
84.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Bill Quackenbush, D
85.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Evgeni Malkin, C
86.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Marcel Dionne, C
87.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Georges Vezina, G
88.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Teemu Selanne, RW
89.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Serge Savard, D
90.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Boris Mikhailov, RW
91.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Charlie Gardiner, G
92.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Jack Stewart, D
93.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Eric Lindros, C
94.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet - Patrick Kane, RW
95.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Scott Niedermayer, D
96.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Sergei Fedorov, C
97.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - Jarome Iginla, RW
98.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Toe Blake, LW
99.Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Frank Mahovlich, LW
100.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Erik Karlsson, D
101.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Norm Ullman, C
102.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Shea Weber, D
103.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Sid Abel, C/LW
104.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Busher Jackson, LW
105.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Brett Hull, RW
106.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Hooley Smith, C/RW
107.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Marcel Pronovost, D
108.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Guy Lapointe, D
109.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Alexei Kasatanov, D
110.tabness - Calgary Radz - Pavel Bure, RW
111.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Johnny Bucyk, LW
112.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Doug Bentley, LW
113.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Ching Johnson, D
114.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Clint Benedict, G
115.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Brendan Shanahan, LW
116.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Turk Broda, G
117.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - Lionel Conacher, D
118.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Bryan Hextall Sr., RW
119.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Alex Delvecchio, C/LW
120.tabness - Oakland Skates - Henrik Zetterberg, C/LW

Round 4

121.tabness - Oakland Skates - Pavel Datsyuk, C
122.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Ebbie Goodfellow, D/C
123.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Jacques Laperriere, D
124.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - Syd Howe, LW/C
125.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Hod Stuart, D
126.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Rob Blake, D
127.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Vladimir Martinec, RW
128.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Georges Boucher, D
129.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Max Bentley, C
130.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Butch Bouchard, D
131.tabness - Calgary Radz - Larry Murphy, D
132.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Sergei Zubov, D
133.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Sweeney Schriner, LW
134.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Jean-Claude Tremblay, D
135.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Nels Stewart, C/LW
136.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Luc Robitaille, LW
137.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Doug Gilmour, C
138.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Vladimir Krutov, LW
139.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Carl Brewer, D
140.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Ed Belfour, G
141.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Tommy Phillips, LW
142.Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Bill Durnan, G
143.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Daniel Alfredsson, RW
144.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - Moose Johnson, D
145.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Paul Kariya, LW
146.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Marian Hossa, RW
147.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet - Bernie Parent, G
148.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - John LeClair, LW
149.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Mike Modano, C
150.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Patrice Bergeron, C
151.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Babe Siebert, D/LW
152.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Tony Esposito, G
153.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Ron Francis, C
154.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Art Coulter, D
155.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Frank Foyston, F
156.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Tom Johnson, D
157.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Michel Goulet, LW
158.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Johnny Bower, G
159.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - Harry Cameron, D
160.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Peter Stastny, C

Round 5

161.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Jiri Holecek, G
162.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - Alex Maltsev, C/RW
163.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Dave Keon, C
164.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Doug Wilson, D
165.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Tiny Thompson, G
166.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Marty Barry, C
167.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Bert Olmstead, LW
168.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Lester Patrick, D
169.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Sylvio Mantha, D
170.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Mark Recchi, RW
171.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Brad Marchand, LW
172.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Joe Thornton, C
173.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Theoren Fleury, RW
174.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet - Bill Cowley, C
175.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Gilbert Perreault, C
176.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Grant Fuhr, G
177.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - Adam Oates, C
178.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Vladimir Konstantinov, D
179.Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Eric Desjardins, D
180.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Roy Worters, G
181.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Ken Reardon, D
182.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Jamie Benn, LW
183.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Georges Hainsworth, G
184.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Jan Suchy, D
185.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Victor Hedman, D
186.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Fern Flaman, D
187.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Jean Ratelle, C
188.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Henrik Lundqvist, G
189.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Alexander Yakushev, LW
190.tabness - Calgary Radz - Brad McCrimmon, D
191.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Lanny McDonald, RW
192.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Steven Stamkos, C
193.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Cecil Dillon, RW
194.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Frantisek Pospisil, D
195.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Billy Smith, G
196.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Harry Howell, D
197.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - Anze Kopitar, C
198.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Patrik Elias, LW
199.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Babe Dye, RW
200.tabness - Oakland Skates - Denis Savard, C

Round 6

201.tabness - Oakland Skates - Steve Larmer, RW
202.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Bill White, D
203.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Hugh Lehman, G
204.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - Tom Barrasso, G
205.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Vladimir Petrov, C
206.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Yvan Cournoyer, RW
207.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Keith Tkachuk, LW
208.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Reg Noble, LW/C/D
209.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Cam Neely, RW
210.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Rick Middleton, RW
211.tabness - Calgary Radz - Dale Hawerchuk, C
212.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Igor Larionov, C
213.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Jimmy Thomson, D
214.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Claude Provost, RW
215.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Mickey MacKay, C/RW
216.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Darryl Sittler, C
217.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Roy Conacher, LW
218.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Allan Stanley, D
219.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Didier Pitre, RW/D
220.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Glenn Anderson, RW
221.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Herb Gardiner, D
222. Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Rod Brind’Amour, C/LW
223.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Harvey Pulford, D
224.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - Gump Worsley, G
225.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Ryan Suter, D
226.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Ilya Kovalchuk, LW
227.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet - Lionel Hitchman, D
228.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Marc Andre Fleury, G
229.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Brian Propp, LW
230.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Jack Crawford, D
231.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Paul Thompson, LW
232.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Gordie Drillon, RW
233.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Bill Barber, LW
234.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Bob Gainey, LW
235.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Babe Pratt, D
236.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Rod Gilbert, RW
237.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Jacques Lemaire, C
238.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Brent Burns, D
239.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - George Armstrong, RW
240.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Alexander Ragulin, D

Round 7

241.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Jere Lehtinen, LW/RW
242.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - Hap Holmes, G
243.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Jonathan Toews, C
244.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Chuck Rayner, G
245.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Guy Carbonneau, C
246.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Herbie Lewis, LW
247.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Helmuts Balderis, RW
248.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Markus Naslund, LW
249.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Sergei Gonchar, D
250.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Pat Stapleton, D
251.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Scotty Bowman, Coach
252.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Claude Giroux, C/RW
253.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Daniel Sedin, LW
254.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet - Woody Dumart, LW
255.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Roman Josi, D
256.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Dany Heatley, RW/LW
257.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - Mats Sundin, C
258.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Toe Blake, Coach
259.Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Al Arbour, Coach
260.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Art Ross, D
261.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Dan Boyle, D
262.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Ott Heller, D
263.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Vladimir Lutchenko, D
264.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Rogie Vachon, G
265.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Corey Perry, RW
266.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Lester Patrick, Coach
267.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Mike Grant, D
268.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Punch Broadbent, RW
269.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Vaclav Nedomansky, C/RW
270.tabness - Calgary Radz - Derian Hatcher, D
271.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Frank Fredrickson, C
272.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Elmer “Moose” Vasko, D
273.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Bun Cook, LW
274.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Fred Shero, Coach
275.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Hap Day, D
276.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Zigmund Palffy, RW
277.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - Ryan Getzlaf, C
278.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Duke Keats, C
279.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Nicklas Backstrom, C
280.tabness - Oakland Skates - Pat Lafontaine, C

Round 8:

281.tabness - Oakland Skates - Alexander Mogilny, RW
282.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Cy Wentworth, D
283.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Neil Colville , C/D
284.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - Larry Aurie, RW
285.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Baldy Northcott, LW
286.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Gary Suter, D
287.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Johnny Gottselig, LW
288.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Brian Rafalski, D
289.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Bill Mosienko, RW
290.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Jack Walker, F
291.tabness - Calgary Radz - Mike Peca, C
292.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Jiri Holik, LW
293.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Jeremy Roenick, C
294.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Vincent Damphousse, LW/C
295.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Art Duncan, D
296.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Wayne Cashman, LW
297.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Joe Hall, D/RW
298.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Cooney Weiland, C
299.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Henrik Sedin, C
300.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Bernie Federko, C
301.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Joel Quenneville, Coach
302. Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Mike Gartner, RW
303.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Joe Nieuwendyk, C
304.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - Alex Pietrangelo, D
305.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Don Luce, C
306.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Rick Martin, LW
307.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet - George Hay, LW
308.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Joe Primeau, C
309.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Alf Smith, RW
310.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Gordon Roberts, LW
311.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Milan Novy, C
312.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Terry Harper, D
313.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Dave Taylor, RW
314.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Russell Bowie, C
315.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Jimmy Ward, RW
316.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Joe Mullen, RW
317.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Steve Shutt, LW
318.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Bernie Morris, RW/C
319.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - PK Subban, D
320.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - "Bullet" Joe Simpson, D

Round 9

321.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Peter Bondra, RW
322.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - Bob Pulford, LW
323.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Kevin Lowe, D
324.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Cecil Hart, Coach
325.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Kris Letang, D
326.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Percy Lesueur, G
327.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Blair Russel, W
328.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Bob Goldham, D
329.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Don Marshall, LW/C
330.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - John Tavares, C
331.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Gus Mortson, D
332.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Phil Housley, D
333.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Leo Boivin, D
334.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet -Tommy Ivan, Coach
335.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Teppo Numminen, D
336.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Bob Baun, D
337.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - Ken Hodge, RW
338.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Sergei Kapustin, LW
339.Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Doug Mohns, D/LW
340.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Adam Foote, D
341.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Ace Bailey, RW
342.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Owen Nolan, RW
343.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Vyacheslav Starshinov, C
344.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Jim Neilson, D
345.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Red Horner, D
346.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Blake Wheeler, RW
347.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Bobby Rousseau, RW
348.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Hap Day, Coach
349.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Nikita Kucherov, RW
350.tabness - Calgary Radz - Esa Tikkanen, LW
351.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Craig Ramsay, LW
352tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Dave Poulin, C
353.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Harry Lumley, G
354.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Walt Tkaczuk, C
355.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Reggie Leach, RW
356.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Jim Schoenfeld, D
357.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - Tommy Gorman, Coach
358.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Dick Irvin Sr, Coach
359.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Ken Mosdell, C
360.tabness - Oakland Skates - Dino Ciccarelli, RW

Round 10:


361.tabness - Oakland Skates - Kevin Stevens, LW
362.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars - Lloyd Cook, D
363.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils - Frank Patrick, D
364.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars - John Carlson, D
365.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers - Anatoly Tarasov, Coach
366.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks - Connor McDavid, C
367.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes - Vic Stasiuk, W
368.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins - Pit Lepine, C
369.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves - Marty Pavelich, LW
370.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins - Joel Otto, C
371.tabness - Calgary Radz - Kevin Hatcher, D
372.kruezer - North Bay Centennials - Vladimir Kostka, Coach
373.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators - Tony Amonte, RW
374.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec - Odie Cleghorn, RW
375.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds - Tommy Smith, LW/C
376.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays - Rob Ramage, D
377.rmartin65 - New York Americans - Ralph Backstrom, C
378.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils - Bobby Bauer, RW
379.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees - Bobby Rowe, D/RW
380.tony d - Marystown Mariners - Jimmy Watson, D
381.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers - Gary Roberts, LW
382. Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads - Clark Gillies, LW
383.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings - Marian Gaborik, RW
384.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles - John Tonelli, LW
385.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch - Frank Finnigan, RW
386.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers - Pavol Demitra, LW/C
387.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet - Red Dutton, D
388.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs - Pat Egan, D/RW
389.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans - Claude Lemieux, RW
390.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens - Phil Kessel, RW
391.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks - Phil Goyette, C
392.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps - Dick Duff, LW
393.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades - Edgar Laprade, C
394.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Ed Westfall, RW/D
395.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Barry Beck, D
396.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Brian Sutter, LW
397.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Rock Tocchet, RW
398.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Dean Prentice, LW
399.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - Mark Giordano, D
400.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Ted Harris, D

Round 11

401.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias - Punch Imlach, Coach
402.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats - Phil Watson, C
403.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers - Wade Redden, D
404.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs - Andrei Markov, D
405.papershoes - Kenora Thistles - Skipped
406.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros - Danny Gare, RW
407.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC - Doug Jarvis, C
408.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades -
409.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps -
410.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks -
411.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens -
412.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans -
413.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
414.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet -
415.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers -
416.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch -
417.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles -
418.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings -
419.Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads -
420.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers -
421.tony d - Marystown Mariners -
422.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees -
423.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils -
424.rmartin65 - New York Americans -
425.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays -
426.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds -
427.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec -
428.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators -
429.kruezer - North Bay Centennials -
430.tabness - Calgary Radz -
431.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins -
432.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves -
433.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins -
434.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes -
435.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks -
436.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers -
437.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars -
438.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils -
439.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars -
440.tabness - Oakland Skates -

Round 12

441.tabness - Oakland Skates -
442.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars -
443.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils -
444.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars -
445.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers -
446.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks -
447.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes -
448.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins -
449.tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves -
450.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins -
451.tabness - Calgary Radz -
452.kruezer - North Bay Centennials -
453.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators -
454.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec -
455.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds -
456.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays -
457.rmartin65 - New York Americans -
458.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils -
459.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees -
460.tony d - Marystown Mariners -
461.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers -
462. Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads -
463.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings -
464.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles -
465.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch -
466.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers -
467.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet -
468.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
469.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans -
470.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens -
471.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks -
472.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps -
473.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades -
474.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
475.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros -
476.papershoes - Kenora Thistles -
477.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs -
478.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
479.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats -
480.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias -

Round 13

481.nabby12 - Winnipeg Victorias -
482.rmartin65 - MountainLake StreetCats -
483.Dreakmur - Orillia Terriers -
484.tony d - St. John's Maple Leafs -
485.papershoes - Kenora Thistles -
486.Namba 17 - The Canadian Soo Marlboros -
487.ImporterExporter - Pittsburgh AC -
488.The Macho Man - Richmond Renegades -
489.Johnny Engine - St. John's IceCaps -
490.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Shamrocks -
491.BenchBrawl - Montreal Canadiens -
492.kruezer - Seattle Metropolitans -
493.Leaf Lander - Toronto Maple Leafs -
494.Sprague Cleghorn - Bolshoy Ballet -
495.GlitchMarner - Brampton Beavers -
496.tinyzombies - NDG Monarch -
497.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Salt Lake Golden Eagles -
498.papershoes - Renfrew Creamery Kings -
499.Claude The Fraud - Halifax Mooseheads -
500.MadArcand - Hartford Whalers -
501.tony d - Marystown Mariners -
502.Johnny Engine - Conception Bay Cee Bees -
503.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Swamp Devils -
504.rmartin65 - New York Americans -
505.Voight - Corpus Christi Ice Rays -
506.ResilientBeast - Portland Rosebuds -
507.Sprague Cleghorn - Club de Hockey de Québec -
508.BenchBrawl - Ottawa Senators -
509.kruezer - North Bay Centennials -
510.tabness - Calgary Radz -
511.Selfish Man - Portland Penguins -
512tinyzombies - Valleyfield Braves -
513.The Macho Man - Richmond Robins -
514.MadArcand - Carolina Hurricanes -
515.Habsfan18 & VanIslander - Baltimore Skipjacks -
516.ImporterExporter - Saskatoon Snipers -
517.Hawkey Town 18 - Chicago Cougars -
518.TheDevilMadeMe - New Jersey Devils -
519.ResilientBeast - Victoria Cougars -
520.tabness - Oakland Skates -
 
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Id like to know how much C noble actually played.
Last year, TDMMs bio of Noble seemed to indicate that Noble would get occasional deployment at Center for matters like the Nighbor match-up... in order to compete more robustly in the middle of the ice.

See bio here

Ultimately, I think the matter is moot on this occasion- since The Birds already have a C & two RWs. Expect Noble will be LW on one of their top two lines.
 
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Was thinking about Tkachuk but he gone and was planning on a defenseman but maybe I get lucky and take him in 60 picks, cause I just thought about this and it should work great.

Radz take Dale Hawerchuk (on phone so no card)

He’s just a better player and a better fit than other wingers I could take. Will likely play him at left wing (Yzerman’s) as I know he’ll do great there as a playmaker and I don’t think he’ll do as well as a second/third line center.

I know I’ll get crap for playing him at wing but I feel it’s a more sure thing since he played on Yzerman’s (right) wing in the 1989 World Championships sometimes and they were great and straight up played left wing for parts of junior than like Frank Nighbor adapting his hook/poke check game to a league context with forward passing (yes that was meant to be contreversial on how we think about adaptations in this thing).
 

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Was thinking about Tkachuk but he gone and was planning on a defenseman but maybe I get lucky and take him in 60 picks, cause I just thought about this and it should work great.

Radz take Dale Hawerchuk (on phone so no card)

He’s just a better player and a better fit than other wingers I could take. Will likely play him at left wing (Yzerman’s) as I know he’ll do great there as a playermaker and I don’t think he’ll do as well as a second/third line center.

I know I’ll get crap for playing him at wing but I feel it’s a more sure thing since he played on Yzerman’s (right) wing in the 1989 World Chanpionships sometimes and they were great and straight up played left wing for parts of junior than like Frank Nighbor adapting his hook/poke check game to a league context with forward passing (yes that was meant to be contreversial on how we think about adaptations in this thing).

Are you trying to suggest because forward passing is a thing, hook/poke checking would be less effective?

I feel like skillsets can be adaptable, but just selecting 12 centers and lining them up at wing because they played wing twice just isn't
 
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Are you trying to suggest because forward passing is a thing, hook/poke checking would be less effective?

I feel like skillsets can be adaptable, but just selecting 12 centers and lining them up at wing because they played wing twice

Maybe it’s cause I’m a Wings fan and saw converted center after center playing wing (yes I think the other way around wing to center is a tougher adaption and for some centers you just don’t play them at wing).

On Nighbor, I definitely think the tactic becomes less valuable with forward passing even if he remains as good at it of course.

It’s a question of effectiveness. Would Hawerchuk be more effective down the middle? Very likely. With his skillset he’d still be a good fit and effective (and he actually was in reality). Would he take as much of a hit in effectiveness than Nighbor having to deal with a new way of playing in the offensive zone? I don’t think so honestly. Same with him playing way down the depth chart. Gotta take into account star players egos and icetime
 

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Maybe it’s cause I’m a Wings fan and saw converted center after center playing wing (yes I think the other way around wing to center is a tougher adaption and for some centers you just don’t play them at wing).

On Nighbor, I definitely think the tactic becomes less valuable with forward passing even if he remains as good at it of course.

It’s a question of effectiveness. Would Hawerchuk be more effective down the middle? Very likely. With his skillset he’d still be a good fit and effective (and he actually was in reality). Would he take as much of a hit in effectiveness than Nighbor having to deal with a new way of playing in the offensive zone? I don’t think so honestly.

Ok, so being effective at taking the puck away with your stick will become less effective with forward passing?

Exactly why would Nighbor's preferred technique become less valuable?
 
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Aren’t hard and accurate slapshots down the wing above the circles less effective now with current goaltending styles and equipment? Same players with same skillsets, different context reduces the value. When you don’t always have to carry the puck in the neutral zone, seems that being so good at stick checking a player isn’t going to be as valuable.
 

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Ok, so being effective at taking the puck away with your stick will become less effective with forward passing?

Exactly why would Nighbor's preferred technique become less valuable?

Some of Nighbor’s specific tactics would be less effective, but I assume he developed and used those tactics because they were the most effective at that time and not because they were the only things he could do. With that assumption, he would use tactics that are more effective under different rules.
 
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Aren’t hard and accurate slapshots down the wing above the circles less effective now with current goaltending styles and equipment? Same players with same skillsets, different context reduces the value. When you don’t always have to carry the puck in the neutral zone, seems that being so good at stick checking a player isn’t going to be as valuable.

Ok, you have to acknowledge the fundamental different between shot selection as a "skill" and the skills a player used to be the great defensive forward of his generation.

If you can accurately pick a corner with a slapper that is 100% still a valuable skill.

That's such a weak argument
 

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Very true. Which is why Dmen so rarely pokecheck forwards entering the NZ nowadays.

(very sarcastic)

I also think that is a flat out improper way to participate in the project and goes against the spirit of an "all-time draft".
 
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Very true. Which is why Dmen so rarely pokecheck forwards entering the NZ nowadays.

(very sarcastic)

I also think that is a flat out improper way to participate in the project and goes against the spirit of an "all-time draft".

You know stickwork is so useless these days because you don't need to carry the puck, that's why Pavel Datsyuk had such a disappointing career.
 
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Are you trying to suggest because forward passing is a thing, hook/poke checking would be less effective?

I feel like skillsets can be adaptable, but just selecting 12 centers and lining them up at wing because they played wing twice just isn't

My personal feeling about centres playing wing is that most of them would do a good job in converting. The best players generally play center and as players advance up through levels, the weaker centres swap to the wing because they are better than those wingers.

Having said that, I think playing guy out of position violates the spirit of this draft. I’m not sure how I will take that into account when I vote.
 

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My personal feeling about centres playing wing is that most of them would do a good job in converting. The best players generally play center and as players advance up through levels, the weaker centres swap to the wing because they are better than those wingers.

Having said that, I think playing guy out of position violates the spirit of this draft. I’m not sure how I will take that into account when I vote.

100% that's why you can get someone with Hawerchuk's VsX this deep into the draft, because he plays center.

Agree with your points entirely
 
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Some of Nighbor’s specific tactics would be less effective, but I assume he developed and used those tactics because they were the most effective at that time and not because they were the only things he could do. With that assumption, he would use tactics that are more effective under different rules.

Yes basically this.

Posters shouldn't forget that Nighbor dominated the ice surface defensively when there was no forward pass - it's why I can't buy it at all when he's called "the best defensive forward ever," as if Clarke, Bergeron, or a few others didn't stand out defensively in later times.

But Nighbor absolutely is a top tier defensive player.
 
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