Atd#8 MINOR LEAGUE DRAFT

[God Bless Canada]

pit and THG's time expired more than two-and-a-half hours ago. chaos is now on the clock. Spit is on the clock at 12:45 p.m. EST.

 

[God Bless Canada]

"'Unnamed Dots on a Map', for a thousand Alex"

Weyburn is about 10,000 people. Home to all-time NHL PIM king Tiger Williams, and it's the place where Tommy Douglas started his political career. (If there's ever a reason to dislike a community...)

La Ronge is about 3,500 people. There isn't much in Saskatchewan north of La Ronge. Except dense forestry and uranimum mines.

 

[The_Hockey_Guy18]

The New York Americans select, with their final two picks, C Stephane Yelle, and D Tom Jonsson.

More on the picks to come.

 

[MXD]

The New York Americans select, with their final two picks, C Stephane Yelle, and D Tom Jonsson.

More on the picks to come.

...Tomas Jonsson wasn't picked....?!?!?!?!?!

 

[BM67]

If you mean Tomas Jonsson of the Isles/Oilers, he's already long gone.

 

[God Bless Canada]

Mullin picked a Tomas Jonsson in the 21st round of the main draft. Is that the same player?

 

[MXD]

Heck, if Tomas Jonsson would have been close to the BPA for the whole minor draft....

That could be worst, TGH could have picked Tom Johnson with his last pick.

 

[The_Hockey_Guy18]

Oops, my bad guys. I'll make it up in a second. Give me a bit to go over my other options.

 

[The_Hockey_Guy18]

More on Yelle.

From Legends of Hockey:

With the Avalanche, Yelle continued to improve on his checking and penalty killing skills. Strong on faceoffs and considered one of the premier defensive players in the league, injuries limited Yelle to 50 regular season games with Colorado in 2000-01, but he returned for the playoffs and contributed to the Avs' Stanley Cup victory at year's end.

A great defensive player and fiesty penalty killer, Yelle will be replacing Burr on our fourth line, moving Burr down to our 13th forward role, as a utility guy.

 

[pitseleh]

Sorry guys, I guess my Find function wasn't working too well yesterday, it seems like it wasn't finding any names I was searching for even though they were there.

To make up for the last pick, the Americans select D Bert McCaffrey.

McCaffrey was a top scoring defenseman in the NHL in the mid-twenties and was also an Olympic star for the 1924 Canadian team, scoring 20 goals in 5 games.

 

[The_Hockey_Guy18]

Sorry guys, I guess my Find function wasn't working too well yesterday, it seems like it wasn't finding any names I was searching for even though they were there.

To make up for the last pick, the Americans select D Bert McCaffrey.

McCaffrey was a top scoring defenseman in the NHL in the mid-twenties and was also an Olympic star for the 1924 Canadian team, scoring 20 goals in 5 games.

McCaffery could also play wing, so if we get unlucky enough to have some injuries up front, we have some flexibility there.

 

[Spitfire11]

Well, here's my first out of no where pick.

Captain of the Montreal Wanderers for 3 Stanley Cup winning teams, F Cecil Blanchford

 

[God Bless Canada]

Spit told me to announce our picks. The Moose Jaw Millers are pleased to round out their defence corps with a talented defenceman who can advance the puck, shoot and take care of his own zone. Good enough to be selected to Canada's World Cup entry in 1996. One of three Washington blue-liners to hit 20 goals in their record-setting 1992-93 season: D Sylvain Cote.

Our final pick is our Game 7 specialist. Why? He has the fourth-most Game 7 goals in NHL history. Only Glenn Anderson, Wayne Gretzky and Trevor Linden have more. This player also won a Stanley Cup with the New Jersey Devils in 2003. An excellent skater and a very hard shooter, he hails from Meadow Lake, Saskatchewan: LW Jeff Friesen.

 

[chaosrevolver]

The Belleville Bulls select Coach: Marc Habscheid.

Career WHL Record:
W: 251
L: 127
T: 43
OTL: 6

Memorial Cup Championship
Led Canada to Silver Medal

In 1997, Habscheid turned to coaching, joining the WHL's Kamloops Blazers and then the Kelowna Rockets. Following successful seasons with Kamloops and Kelowna, Habscheid was appointed head coach of Canada's World Junior Team in 2003 and led Canada to a Silver Medal.

The Belleville Bulls also select Right Winger...Willy Lindstrom.
Right-winger Willy Lindstrom was an exciting combination of speed and scoring during his eight years in the NHL. He recorded five 20-goal seasons and was very dangerous on the power play. The talented forward was also respected for turning his game up a notch in the post-season.

Born in Grunnis, Sweden, "The Wisp" excelled for five years with Vastra Frolunda. He also spent parts of two seasons on the national team and played at the World Championshios in 1974 and 1975. Lindstrom signed as a free agent with the WHA's Winnipeg Jets in July 1975 and was a top goal scorer for four seasons. In 1976, he was a reserve on Team Sweden at the inaugural Canada Cup.

The clever forward remained on the Jets when they joined the NHL in 1979-80. He recorded four consecutive 20-goal seasons as the young club was one of the fastest in the league. In March 1983, Lindstrom was traded to the Edmonton Oilers for scrappy centre Laurie Boschman. He was a role player on his new squad but recorded 22 goals in 1983-84 and helped the club win two consecutive Stanley Cups in 1984 and 1985.

In October 1985, he was picked up on waivers by the Pittsburgh Penguins and scored 24 goals over two seasons. After sitting out the 1987-88 season, he played two years with Brynas IF Gavle of Sweden before announcing his retirement.

 

[Spitfire11]

D Shawn Chambers

- 2 Stanley Cups with NJ and Dallas
- '96 World Cup winner
- Stanley Cup Finals with Minnesota
- more than 20 surgeries on his knees

 

[VanIslander]

Captain of the Montreal Wanderers for 8 Stanley Cup winning teams, F Cecil Blanchford

yes and no

they played 8 opponents in like 2 years and each match-up they put the cup on the line as the prize for the winners

so they were like two-year champions not like 8 season champs

 

[Spitfire11]

yes and no

they played 8 opponents in like 2 years and each match-up they put the cup on the line as the prize for the winners

so they were like two-year champions not like 8 season champs

Ah yes, such a strange period.

Make that 4-time Cup champion.

 

[VanIslander]

Ah yes, such a strange period.

not really: more the way that makes sense: "We got this nice shiny expensive cup and we are putting it on the line. Think you can beat us? If you do, you can have the cup. Come on, just try and get it. No one can take it from us."

Nowadays great teams in Europe can't challenge the cup champions to try and get the cup. The wholly bloody format has been so rigidly formatted and expected to be such. Teams don't really 'defend' their championship trophy: they are like any scrub team, having to go through the playoffs.

I'd love to see an Open tourney (like in golf and tennis) where ANY team can join! There would be slots for ranked teams and a few slots that any team can compete for through preliminary pre-tourney competition. More like a World Cup in the soccer tradition. Not the joke of a World Cup of Hockey which has been just an all-star game between 7 or so countries.

A DYNAMIC tournament.

Including 2007 champions: Anaheim Ducks (NHL), MODO (SEL), Metallurg Magnitogorsk (RSL), HC Sparta Prague (CEL), Davos (SHL), etcetera.

Make it a charity tournament perhaps where league champs get in for a base fee or free and ANY other team can join by paying substantially higher fees, with all proceeds going to the charity of the winning team (like minor hockey development programs or whatever general cause). Make it like an EVENT. It doesn't have to be an annual structure. Get celebrities involved (many like the sport) to help promotion, major sponsors. Get a big shiny expensive cup. And the winner gets an automatic bye into the next tourney, with no preliminary round qualification games.

 

[VanIslander]

23rd/24th round reflections:

players stolen from the Redmen long list: Ley, Turco, Smith
players who should've been on the list: McKenny, Juzda, Boesch
went pretty much as expected: Cote, Francis, Yelle
interesting picks: Heyliger, Ikola, McCool, Hand, Cook

 

[ck26]

Open tourney

The Stanley Cup is the ultimate trophy in club hockey. The end. The NHL isn't going to participate in a tournament that implies there is some sort of world championship that is more important than the Stanley Cup.

 

[VanIslander]

The Stanley Cup is the ultimate trophy in club hockey. The end. The NHL isn't going to participate in a tournament that implies there is some sort of world championship that is more important than the Stanley Cup.

And yet many have said one of the greatest hockey games ever played was between an NHL club (Montreal Canadiens) and a Russian club (CSKA Moscow) on the 1975 New Year's Eve.
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/html/spot_pinnaclep199303.htm

I remember several great exhibition between touring clubs. maybe more of these kinds of thing would be nice. I know the NHL doesn't want to loose face by risking losing to a Czech or Swedish or Finn team, but that just adds to the fun!

It's too static and formalized and normalized these days. More special event/tours/tourneys would be nice. I look forward to the 2010 winter olympics obviously, though it's basically just an important all-star game, none of the team chemistry you get from playing a season together as a club.

The best days for hockey are past. (sigh)

 

[Say Hey Kid]

Johnny O, you've been lurking more actively than half the participants in this draft ... why didn't you have a team?

I didn't feel ready. This draft requires some depth. I'll be in ATD #9 though!

 

[VanIslander]

reflections (every round combined):

players stolen from the Redmen long list: Karakas, Roberts, Moran, Cain, Rafalski, Awrey, Mayorov, Denneny, Trihey, Hebenton, Christian, Gustafsson, Prystai, Deadmarsh, Stanfield, Granato, Davidson, Leduc, Gagne, Acton, Marois, Fogolin Jr., Sundstrom, Larose, Boschman, Marshall, Konowalchuk, the Sutters, Keeling, Oatman, MacMillan, Butcher, Drozdetsky, Grant, Rowe, Puppa, Ley, Turco, Smith

The BOLDED ones hurt the most!

players who should've been on the list: Corbeau, Ronty, Mummery, Hyland, Paladiev, Balon, Stasiuk, Sandford, Hay, Ridley, Irvin, Patey, Jerwa, Shmyr, Mantha, Crawford, Lewis, Plager, Ezinicki, Maloney, Hill, Nabokov, Turner, Crossman, Getliffe, Langlois, Ruttan, Crowder, Kiessling, Machac, Gardner, Walsh, Johnson, Jarrett, McKenny, Juzda, Boesch

I have been schooled.

went pretty much as expected: Bodger, Stastny, Horvath, Galley, Kehoe, Henry, Brown, Rogers, Yushkevich, Kovalev, Lever, Meloche, Green, Apps Jr., Chouinard, Thoms, Hrudey, Cherry, Gradin, Adams, Barnes, Hextall, Lemelin, Fontinato, Wregget, Sheppard, Krushelnyski, Siltanen, Irbe, Matvichuk, Lidster, Marchant, Niedermayer, Hebert, Snepts, Kocur, Villemure, Cote, Francis, Yelle

Solid picks, all thought about, just not in my team's plans.

players perhaps drafted a bit early: Pederson. Mcneil, Mondou, Demitra, Zetterberg, Langevin, Janney, Koivu, Sydor, Arnott, White, Phaneuf, Nash, Nedved, Brodeur, Conroy, Sedin, Williams, Carlyle, Sutter, Carney, Casey, Renberg, Gionta, Kasparaitis, Buchberger, Moreau, Berry, Bouwmeester, Boyle, Komisarek

None a bad pick though in every case there were others I'd significant others listed higher than them when they were picked. Now, looking at them, they all seem worth drafting (though many I wouldn't rely on so much - e.g., Nedved on the first line?)

interesting picks: Cude, T. Smith, Murray, Owen, Barkley, Maxwell, Hutton, Redmond, Meagher, Driver, Peirson, Romnes, Farrell, Himes, Taylor, MacAdam, March, Gracie, Brown, Goldsworthy, Berlinquette, Kilrea, Kallur, Kindrachuk, Patrick, Sorrell, Burns, Murdoch, MacGregor, Wensink, Pettersson, Bouchard, Regehr, Peters, Nanne, Chamberlain, Trottier, Stemkowski, McMillan, Rolfe, Carveth, Ruskowski, Vail, Heyliger, Ikola, McCool, Hand, Cook

I want to know more about - and/or think more about - all these guys! I'm just not sure what I think about them. Intriguing.

 

[papershoes]

i really like reading these draft round reflections you post vanislander...

it's always neat to see where the players one gm selects stacks up against another gm's draft rankings / strategies

 

[chaosrevolver]

reflections (every round combined):


The BOLDED ones hurt the most!


I have been schooled.


Solid picks, all thought about, just not in my team's plans.


None a bad pick though in every case there were others I'd significant others listed higher than them when they were picked. Now, looking at them, they all seem worth drafting (though many I wouldn't rely on so much - e.g., Nedved on the first line?)


I want to know more about - and/or think more about - all these guys! I'm just not sure what I think about them. Intriguing.

You know we were just looking for a guy who could be in the slot area with Janney finding people and Bert driving. He goes unnoticed but when he had good linemates, Nedved had some dominating years. We feel with good linemates who we feel compliment him, that he was a solid pick. Hes solid defensively too and with Janney on the first line we didnt want a weak defensive player. We wanted a very good two-way player. 717 Career Points, 310 Goals, 982 Games while being solid defensively. Thats why he is on our team. To put Tanguay on our first line would screw things up. Tanguay and Janney are both playmakers so things wouldnt have worked well thus we wanted Janney on the first line so he got Nedved.

We feel considering the round he was picked, that it wasnt a bad pick. With Pitt he had a 99 point season. Yes, he played with Jagr but that shouldnt take away what he did. He had 4 30+ goals seasons and 9 20+ goal seasons. He is a goal scorer who can play in both ends and thats what we wanted to compliment Bert and Janney.

There, my opinion. Ofcoursed im biased but I will defend my choices. We felt and still feel that that was a good pick for our team and our system.