At this point, is there anyone aside from McDavid / Crosby who can win the Art Ross?

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  1. Kamiccolo

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    Assuming they stay healthy of course. Or is the main story line next season going to be watching these two battle it out?
     
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    14-15 Art Ross winner Jamie Benn
    15-16 Art Ross winner Patrick Kane
    16-17 Art Ross winner Connor McDavid

    Yes. Someone else than Crosby can definitely win it.
     
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    Malkin if Kessel is on his wing full time

    Crosby will depend on Guentzel keeping up his play and McDavid on whether Draisaitl will continue to play as his winger.

    If Guentzels play drops or McDavid plays with Strome instead, I think Malkin has a good chance of winning
     
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    If he can stay healthy Malkin is absolutely capable. He just lead the playoffs in scoring and is a multiple art ross winner himself.
     
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    Malkin or Kucherov if they get extremely lucky
     
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    Backstrom, Kucherov, Seguin, all seem like good challengers.
     
  7. Kamiccolo

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    McDavid just won it by 11 points in his first full season. It's his to lose at this point, and many view Crosby as the only one who can challenge him.
     
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    Kucherov or Malkin come to mind.
     
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    Plenty of players that can win the Art Ross.

    Last eight seasons. Eight different winners.

    They days of a Gretzky dominating the scoring race for a decade are gone. Way too much parity in the game.
     
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    Its likely McDavid's or Crosby's to lose. But if say they both go down, I could see:

    -Kucherov
    -Gaudreau
    -Benn
    -Seguin

    I'd go with Benn/Seguin as the likely winners. Those 2 on a line + Radulov (if he plays with them, not sure of the Stars line combos) should be the highest scoring line in the league.
     
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    Probably not, but Malkin, Benn, Seguin, Kane, Kucherov have enough of a chance to mention. Heck, I've been hard on him the past few years but I would almost even throw Stamkos into that group if he can show the form he had before he got hurt last year and plays with Kucherov on the PP.
     
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    Malkin is more likely than Crosby to be honest. Crosby has only won once in the last 9 years. It's not like he's a constant lock.
     
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    Malkin or Kucherov.
     
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    The raw point totals don't tell the whole story. When people talk about McDavid leading the scoring race by 11 points, it's pretty disingenuous. Here's the P/G leaders:

    1. Connor McDavid • EDM 1.22
    2. Sidney Crosby • PIT 1.19
    3. Evgeni Malkin • PIT 1.16

    Now consider that Kunitz will no longer be stinking up either Penguin's line.

    Except now he has by far the best set of wingers he's ever had.
     
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    If they both play full seasons, I think choosing one of them is often a safe bet, but to assume nobody can challenge them is foolish. Seguin, Kucherov, Malkin, and P. Kane all could win it. Scheifele or Backstrom could also be dark horses for it if either of them have excellent seasons
     
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    While that is true, he would have won it in 2010-11 if he hadn't sustained a concussion and probably would have won it in 2012-13 if it wasn't for a broken jaw.
     
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    Hi my names nicklas backstrom and I was 4th in points
     
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    Eight different winners in last eight seasons. Come on. There are no locks to win the Art Ross.
     
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    Assuming McDavid, Crosby and Malkin stay healthy (extremely unlikely) I would be surprised if one of them didn't win it. McDavid is the favourite no matter what IMO, and Kane and a few others like Kucherov, Benn and Seguin have a chance of course, but I still don't see it if those 3 avoid injury.
     
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    Pretty sure health has a lot to do with that, this is assuming he can play and 80+ game season with the wingers he now has he's a close second to McDavid for the Art Ross.
     
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    backstrom?
     
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    From 2010/11 to 2014/15, Crosby had the league's best PPG every year.

    From 2009/10 to last year, the number of times Malkin has had a better PPG or point total than Crosby - one (out of sixteen opportunities).
     
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    Not sure I see it to be honest. I don't think he's ever won it, and now the Capitals seem to have passed their window. Ovi is declining, and the overall roster is weaker than it was last year.

    I just don't see him having the support to challenge some of the other guys mentioned so far.
     
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    no one shouting Mathews or Laine yet
     
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    Scheif.
     

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