Player Discussion Artem Anisimov (C)

[swiftwin]

Interesting take from the former Sen...

"Former Sen"

Lmao! Rivers, a grand total of 47 games for the Sens and was retired from the NHL before Smith was even drafted.

Can we get Commodore's opinion too while we're at it?

 

[DaveMatthew]

You said: Hainsey, Zaitsev, Anisimov, Ennis, Brown... all serviceable players that have no future here, but help make the roster good enough to win some games against teams that play their back-up (which will probably be 50% of the time) against us.

So it's not just Anisimov. Which one is it? Make up your mind.

I'm good with Hainsey. In fact, I think that's a great signing. 1 year deal for a guy who's won a cup. He'll be a great influence on our young defensemen.
I'm okay with Ennis. Salary is low enough that you can just waive him whenever.

Zaitsev and Anisimov? I don't understand. Both have character concerns, neither is a very good hockey player, neither has every won anything, and both are signed for more than 1 season at 4+ million. Neither will be attractive in a trade anytime soon.

And Brown is Zack Smith, who we had but just traded.

Those aren't the type of guys I'd be looking to add.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

I like this trade. Anisimov has some skill so he can help our young forwards develop, and he can probably be dealt for a pick this year or next.

 

[Ouroboros]

Who is the better player

Most of the advanced metrics suggest that the two players are basically interchangeable. Anisimov's most productive seasons came with Panarin and Kane stapled to his wings.

We save money and the Hawks clear some cap space, but the on-ice differential here is trivial.

 

[swiftwin]

Exhibit A: Chris MF Tierney

How so? Tierney's two most common linemates were Boedker and Ryan:

https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/forwardCombos/1819/OTT/

 

[Qward]

Yup, we don't have the resources to make two deals on one day.

Lucic bonus is paid July 17th

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Interesting take from the former Sen...

Having character guys are important... Unless they're more expensive.

 

[stempniaksen]

"Former Sen"

Lmao! Rivers, a grand total of 47 games for the Sens and was retired from the NHL before Smith was even drafted.

Can we get Commodore's opinion too while we're at it?

I mean, factually he is a former Sen. Probably has more insight into Smith vs Anisimov's reputation than most around here. I'm not saying treat it as gospel, but I also don't think it should be dismissed out of hand.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

This probably hurts Logan Brown's chances as much as anything. No news on White signing . I wonder how that is going.

Where does Anisimov, Tierney, Pageau and White slot in to the lineup in this "rebuild"

 

[Cosmix]

Lucic bonus is paid July 17th

Beware the ides of July!

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Lucic bonus is paid July 17th

and why do the Sens care?

 

[MatchesMalone]

Exhibit A: Chris MF Tierney

I'll have to disagree here. Tierney was a point per game player through 29 games as a 20 year old in the AHL. So it was clear there's some upside there, but in San Jose he was buried under some really good centers. What we saw from him last season was exactly what he is.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

How so? Tierney's two most common linemates were Boedker and Ryan:

https://hockeyviz.com/fixedImg/forwardCombos/1819/OTT/

maybe we can reunite them this year

 

[Qward]

and why do the Sens care?

What do Zaitsev, Brown and AA have in common?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

What do Zaitsev, Brown and AA have in common?

They are NHL players

 

[Daffy]

Anyone more annoying and full of themselves than Travis Yost? My god lol

 

[Tkachuk27]

This probably hurts Logan Brown's chances as much as anything. No news on White signing . I wonder how that is going.

Where does Anisimov, Tierney, Pageau and White slot in to the lineup in this "rebuild"

I was thinking the same about Logan but this move IMO now allows the Sens to sit back and wait out these White negotiations

 

[swiftwin]

maybe we can reunite them this year

Sure, why not?

Tkachuk-Pageau-White
Duclair-Anisimov-Brown
Boedker-Tierney-Ryan
Balcers-Ennis-Batherson

Seems pretty balanced.

 

[stempniaksen]

What do Zaitsev, Brown and AA have in common?

You can add Boedker. Wasn't traded for this off-season, but he's one of the more recent "veteran" acquisitions.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

This wasn't money Smith did something last year and got himself waiver wired. This was about getting rid of the negative Nancy crowd. Something went seriously wrong in the room and almost everyone is gone now.

 

[Akrapovince]

This is a financially motivated move, but I think it's different from most of our moves because we are actually getting the upgrade in value here.

We get the better player, he costs less, and he will be worth more at the end of the contract in a trade.

Unlike the Leafs deal, I can't find a downside to this trade if the alternative was keeping Smith. Seems like a great move for once.

Literally the only small negative is the difference in these two might win Ottawa an extra game or two.

 

[swiftwin]

Literally the only small negative is the difference in these two might win Ottawa an extra game or two.

Winning is a positive.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Sure, why not?

Tkachuk-Pageau-White
Duclair-Anisimov-Brown
Boedker-Tierney-Ryan
Balcers-Ennis-Batherson

Seems pretty balanced.

Why are we playing our best center (and the only one who'll be around in 2 years) out of position and our best offensive prospect on the 4th line?

 

[swiftwin]

Why are we playing our best center (and the only one who'll be around in 2 years) out of position and our best offensive prospect on the 4th line?

Because he's just that. A prospect. He'll get some PP time, and as the season progresses, if he improves, so will his ice time.

 

[armani]

What do Zaitsev, Brown and AA have in common?

They suck at hockey.