Art Ross winners - largest margins of victory

TheDevilMadeMe

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What am I missing here? Is that original table incorrect?

Oh nvm I see that is the average 2-5 in that table..

Yes, Crosby's 2014 is slightly better than Jagr's 1999 compared to #2, but Jagr's 1999 has a slightly larger advantage over Crosby's 2014 if you compare to the average of 2-5.

Actually, if you compare to the average of 2-5, Malkin's 2012 is almost as good as Crosby's 2014.
 

Ogopogo*

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First a technical note: The Art Ross was first awarded for the 1947-48 season, but I am including the scoring leaders for all NHL seasons.

Disclaimer: Competition isn't taken into account. Obviously, Wayne Gretzky at #2 in 1989 is a lot tougher than Teemu Selanne at #2 in 1999.

Everyone who won an NHL scoring title by more than 15% is included in the following table:

year | player | margin | percentage
1987 | Wayne Gretzky | 183-108 | 41.0
1984 | Wayne Gretzky | 205-126 | 38.5
1983 | Wayne Gretzky | 196-124 | 36.7
1985 | Wayne Gretzky | 208-135 | 35.1
1986 | Wayne Gretzky | 212-141 | 34.4
1982 | Wayne Gretzky | 212-147 | 30.7
1941 | Bill Cowley | 62-44 | 29.0
1953 | Gordie Howe | 95-71 | 25.3
1928 | Howie Morenz | 51-39 | 23.5
1951 | Gordie Howe | 86-66 | 23.3
1973 | Phil Esposito | 130-104 | 20.0
1952 | Gordie Howe | 86-69 | 19.8
1991 | Wayne Gretzky | 163-131 | 19.6
1966 | Bobby Hull | 97-78 | 19.6
1981 | Wayne Gretzky |164-135 | 17.7
1967 | Stan Mikita | 97-80 | 17.5
1935 | Charlie Conacher | 57-47 | 17.5
1970 | Bobby Orr | 120-99 | 17.5
1954 | Gordie Howe | 81-67 | 17.3
1940 | Milt Schmidt | 52-43 | 17.3
2014 | Sidney Crosby | 104-87 | 16.3
1974 | Phil Esposito | 145-122 | 15.9
1999 | Jaromir Jagr | 127-107 | 15.7
1989 | Mario Lemieux | 199-168 | 15.6
1922 | Punch Broadbent | 46-39 | 15.2
1919 | Newsy Lalonde | 33-28 |15.2
1930 | Cooney Weiland | 73-62 | 15.1
1969 | Phil Esposito | 126-107 | 15.1

Notes:
  • 8 of Gretzky's 10 Art Rosses were by more than 15%
  • 4 of Howe's 6 Art Rosses were by more than 15%
  • 3 of Esposito's 5 Art Rosses were by more than 15%
  • One-timers before World War 2: Cowley, Morenz, Conacher, Schmidt, Broadbent, Lalonde, Weiland
  • One-timers after World War 2: Hull, Mikita, Orr, Jagr, Lemieux
  • It was obviously easier to lead the league by a higher percentage before WW2, when the seasons were shorter and seasonal totals were lower.
  • Lemieux won 6 Art Rosses, but only 1 by a 15%+ margin. Two reasons: Gretzky & injuries.
  • Teammates who led the league in scoring by wide margins in back-to-back years: Schmidt/Cowley, Hull/Mikita, Orr/Esposito

You did the math backwards. Gretzky won the 1987 scoring title by 69% - and that will affect every percentage on your chart.
 

TheDevilMadeMe

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You did the math backwards. Gretzky won the 1987 scoring title by 69% - and that will affect every percentage on your chart.

The methodology is consistent with how FissionFire originally calculated the scoring titles for Gretzky, Lemieux, and Howe:

Perhaps a better way of showing the difference is 2017, when Connor McDavid conveniently scored exactly 100 points to Crosby and Kane's 89. By the FissionFire method (that I also used), Crosby outscored Kane by 11%. By ogopogo*'s calculation, 100/89 = 1.124, therefore Crosby outscored Kane by 12.4%

(I realize I'm responding to a banned poster)

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Anyway, add Patrick Kane's 16.0% in 2016 to the list. Makes Crosby's 16.3 in 2014 lose a bit of its luster.
 

The Panther

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That will look even more Gretzky dominant than this list, I'd imagine. Considering he has the 8 highest assist totals ever...
1981
109
82

1982
120
93

1983
125
86

1984
118
86 (Edm. teammate)

1985
135
84 (Edm. teammate)

1986
163
93

1987
121
72

1988
109
98

1990
102
84

1991
122
90

1992
90
87

1994
92
84



1986 is the most ridiculous, I guess.
 

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