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kirby11
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If Thornton got the captaincy again...lol
That would just be so awkward.
"Hey, Joe, here ya go...don't suck so much this time, ok?"
That would just be so awkward.
"Hey, Joe, here ya go...don't suck so much this time, ok?"
joshjull
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@PollakOnSharks: McLellan says he had talked with Thornton about "clean slate" plan for #SJSharks captaincy; reached Thornton and he says otherwise.
Zman5778
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At this rate, I'd be surprised if he's there by season's end. You all but say "I can't win with these guys (Marleau and Thornton)," (and that weak press release doesn't change anything) and then this? That ship could go sideways in a hurry this season. I wouldn't blame him if makes a public trade demand and then limits his destination to one or two teams to kill San Jose's leverage.
joshjull
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@fearthefin: Sharks have stripped Thornton of the C and added facepunchers for #character. When they don't win the Cup this year, what will people blame?
Jim Bob
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http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/nhl-logo-rankings-no-1-chicago-blackhawks/
In the age of PC-ness, this is an interesting choice.
In the age of PC-ness, this is an interesting choice.
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Woodhouse
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Gabrielor
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Woodhouse
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That's 20-y/o winger Vincent Praplan. He played with North Bay in the OHL last season before returning to Switzerland this season.
DolanPlsGoSabres
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Ottawa Senators have signed Craig Anderson to a 3 year deal #TSN #NHL
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Anderson gets 4.75 M for first two years of deal and 3.1 M in final year. His agent had face-to-face with #Sens last week.
Ottawa Senators have signed Craig Anderson to a 3 year deal #TSN #NHL
@SunGarrioch
Anderson gets 4.75 M for first two years of deal and 3.1 M in final year. His agent had face-to-face with #Sens last week.
Paxon
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Not a fan of that deal. He just turned 33 and has one year left on his contract, so he'll be 34, 35, and 36 through the extension. He's just not good enough of a goalie to want to lock in for 4 more years at that age. He's never gonna play like he did for 24 games in '12-'13.
What is Ottawa doing? With an owner who counts every penny, giving $4.75m for three years to a goaltender who is arguably your second best netminder right now isn't very intelligent, IMO. I thought it was time for them to turn over the reins to Lehner this season and then let Anderson walk next summer. Apparently, Ottawa has other ideas.
kirby11
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Jim Bob
RIP RJ
Mike Callahan, Ryan's dad, was one of the speakers (along with Chaddddddd) at the coaches kick off meeting for our hockey association last night.
He said that Ryan asked him if he should sign with the Sabres.
His dad told him that he needed to do what was right for himself and his family.
Then he joked about how he could retire to Tampa Bay.
He said that Ryan asked him if he should sign with the Sabres.
His dad told him that he needed to do what was right for himself and his family.
Then he joked about how he could retire to Tampa Bay.
Jim Bob
RIP RJ
i'm sure it's very puzzling for you... but Ottawa is acknowledging that Robin Lehner is nothing special, and that having an affordable veteran goalie, is preferred to handing the reigns off to a headcase... (preferrably a veteran, and a youngster), is the ideal situation.
They don't believe Lehner can handle a heavy workload, as demonstrated by his collapse last year. He's a mentally fragile goalie. He'll have the "upside" tagged to him for awhile, but what we've seen is that he's likely a split goaltender at best.
Meanwhile, Anderson is a proven/capable NHL goaltender, that's really no different than Ryan Miller aside from name recognition... Anderson is younger, and they got him for almost 2 million less in cap space...
back in January...
That's back when you thought Lehner would be "getting the big bucks"... which turned out to be a 3 yrs / 2.225 contract...
Lehner got the typical "prove it" contract, not the "your the future of the franchise in goal" contract that you expected.
The signing of Anderson means that Senators don't believe Lehner will prove to be more than a split starter at best.
I don't disagree on the Lehner assessment but saying Anderson is on par will Miller doesn't really match their bodies of work. Anderson hasn't really proven he can put up good numbers while carrying a starters load. Miller has proven he can play 60+ games and remain consistent. Anderson has had good partial seasons, not any good full seasons.
Anderson is more comparable to Brian Eliot than Miller IMHO....and Elliot signed for 3 years/2.5 per....and is 4 years younger.
Wait, wait, wait Mr. You-Never-Pay-For-Goaltending-Because-They're-All-Pretty-Much-The-Same, this appears to be a seismic shift in your philosophy. You're now advocating for a $7m allocation to the goaltending position? For a bean-counting organization, no less!
I'll take that bet. He's better than Anderson. Right now. This is a dumb move by Ottawa. Period. They could've ridden out this year with an Anderson/Lehner split, and then addressed this situation next summer if they still had qualms about Lehner. Instead, they locked themselves into what may be an untradeable contract before it even kicks in.
Anderson is proven and capable starting vet, yet Lehner is the untrustworthy headcase.
What's that? Lehner has better numbers over the last three years? Oh. Not bad for a headcase.
Speaking of goaltending headcases, I don't ever think that Rask guy is going to make it. Here's a clue, since you don't seem to have one when it comes to goaltending, most of them are headcases.
I'm pretty sure that was in the context of Tim Murray's answer to a question re: whether he believed in paying goaltenders when the WGR guys cited Ottawa, and he referenced Lehner as they guy who will eventually get paid like one. I'd love the link to that thread to establish context, but I doubt you'll provide it.
I'm sure that's precisely what it means. That's a quintessentially Jame all-or-nothing rationale--it could never be something in the middle of "he's a split goaltender" and "he's going to be the starter in 2015-16." I'm sure the Senators believe that the 23 year-old goaltender they just invested nearly $7m in when he had no contract leverage is just a "split goaltender." I bet they don't believe--wrong or not--that they're breaking him in slowly and will give him the reins in 2-3 years at an age when guys like Rask and Bernier took the next step of their careers.
It's definitely because they just believe he's a split starter, at best.
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