Around the NHL XXXVI - Final Countdown: 2018 edition

[DJB]

That one has worked out really well, but frankly we got lucky that Gaborik has LTIRetired. If Gaborik were still playing today, that trade would be a lateral move. I guess it's possible we knew he was going to LTIRetire, or we bet on it happening, but I'm not sure that's a fair assumption.

We aren't privy to the players medicals, but teams are. It's very possible the Sens knew well he was a ticking time bomb

 

[Agent Zub]

so...anyone going to catch the Vegas game in a few minutes on Sportsnet?

Yeah, going to be refreshing to watch Stone play meaningful hockey.

 

[Micklebot]

We aren't privy to the players medicals, but teams are. It's very possible the Sens knew well he was a ticking time bomb

I suppose, but if he was a ticking time bomb, why would LA move him to get a equally terrible contract in Phaneuf?

I'm sure they had it in the back of their minds that he could get hurt, but I still think they got very lucky. Even a guy that is a ticking time bomb could be healthy enough to play half a season and negate insurance paying a dime.

 

[HavlatMach9]

Are we also not a 1st class organization Stone?

 

[L'Aveuglette]

It hurts just as much seeing Stone in a Knights jersey as it did with EK.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Western fans are finally gonna see how Stone really is a top-10 winger in this league, especially when playing on a good team.

 

[DJB]

I suppose, but if he was a ticking time bomb, why would LA move him to get a equally terrible contract in Phaneuf?

I'm sure they had it in the back of their minds that he could get hurt, but I still think they got very lucky. Even a guy that is a ticking time bomb could be healthy enough to play half a season and negate insurance paying a dime.

I genuinely believe LA thought they were improving their D with Phaneuf . Otherwise why else make the deal ?

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Stone already made a couple sneaky good plays on his first two shifts.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Stone already made a couple sneaky good plays on his first two shifts.

He's pumped AF. Guy's gonna tear it up on that line.

 

[Senscore]

Western fans are finally gonna see how Stone really is a top-10 winger in this league, especially when playing on a good team.

They do tend to be a little slow. Time zones and all. Shame, really.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

He's pumped AF. Guy's gonna tear it up on that line.

I'm happy for him.

Reminds me of Ray Bourque going to Colorado. as strange as it was seeing him in a different jersey, you can't help but root for him to get that Cup.

 

[DJB]

How sad is it we are way further behind a 2 year expansion team lol

 

[Senscore]

How sad is it we are way further behind a 2 year expansion team lol

Columbus has never been close to where this 2 year expansion team is.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

damn....Vegas Dallas is gonna be a bloodbath. Really physical so far.

 

[danielpalfredsson]

I suppose, but if he was a ticking time bomb, why would LA move him to get a equally terrible contract in Phaneuf?

I'm sure they had it in the back of their minds that he could get hurt, but I still think they got very lucky. Even a guy that is a ticking time bomb could be healthy enough to play half a season and negate insurance paying a dime.

LTIR isn't the exact same as free cap space. It can still handicap teams since they only get back the amount they exceed the cap by at the time the put the contract on LTIR.

Phaneuf was still perceived as a top 4 D at the time coming off of that run we had. The issues with us moving Phaneuf were always his NTC and his cap hit restricting the market.

If I am recalling correctly, LAK were in on Phaneuf dating back to when Toronto originally shopped him, so they liked the player. So I think it was probably a situation where they saw a chance to acquire a #4 defender they liked for essentially salary/cap considerations and no real assets beyond that. Almost like they signed Phaneuf as a UFA. It's hard to quantify what their actual added cap obligation is with Phaneuf because currently they wouldn't get back the entirety of Gaborik's contract via LTIR since they aren't spending to the ceiling, so while Phaneuf has a 5.25M cap hit for them this year, in practical terms because they dumped Gaborik it's probably closer to 3 or 4 something depending on where their cap wise on day 1 of the season.

It's crazy to think that two guys playing a combined 43 minutes for us during 16-17 when we were an alright team who went on a great run are now basically done only two years later.

 

[SensFactor]

Columbus is going to miss the playoffs. Philly charging up right behind them and they have to knock off Pittsburgh or Montreal who are holding down wildcard spots to get in.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Columbus is going to miss the playoffs. Philly charging up right behind them and they have to knock off Pittsburgh or Montreal who are holding down wildcard spots to get in.

finally something to watch hockeywise.

 

[starling]

Shots 48-24 in Vegas game? Jesus.
I don't think Stone is accustomed to that. Might take some time to adjust.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Columbus is going to miss the playoffs. Philly charging up right behind them and they have to knock off Pittsburgh or Montreal who are holding down wildcard spots to get in.

I hope not. Yeah, it makes that draft pick better, but it's bad karma.

 

[starling]

Can someone sum up who we want to win/lose for sens to get better?
i.e. San Jose going into Finals and signing Karlsson adds another 1st round pick for us.
Columbus? We want Duchene to re-sign (+1st rounder) and Jackets miss the playoffs (higher pick this year)? Ideal if they win the lottery in 2019 and 2020 so we get a top-3 pick in 2020.
Any other team?

 

[Beville]

Duchene looks good in a jackets jersey,

Annoyingly. Far better than he did in a Sens one.

 

[hawthy]

Anyone hear or see that video from Islanders fans to Tavares? Perhaps it’s the Sens fan in me that has me feeling no sympathy - given what we’ve been through with no end in sight - but the video was so annoying I now find myself wanting Tavares to score 4 tonight. Congratulations, universe, you win.

 

[Deku]

The boos on Tavares' first shift back in NYI are the loudest I've ever heard (unless they've pumped up the crowd noise on the broadcast)
And I think they were chanting "***hole"

 

[Senscore]

Bless u isles fans

 

[supsens]

The boos on Tavares' first shift back in NYI are the loudest I've ever heard (unless they've pumped up the crowd noise on the broadcast)
And I think they were chanting "***hole"

Good stuff, I have no idea why some people were upset Duchene got a few boos.