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_Del_

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I think I'd rather see the Oil crash and burn than help them.

I don't know. If we're comfortable with Oesterle, KConn, and Lyubushkin 5-7 after camp, we could trade Demers above market value, sign Enstrom to replace the D depth if Lyubushkin seems shaky, and use the saved money to afford Kessel...

For example...
 

lanky

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Demers is our only right shooting dman with any NHL games played. If you're offering up someone in trade it should be someone else, though KConn or Oesterle are the only ones I see as replaceable.
 

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Demers is our only right shooting dman with any NHL games played. If you're offering up someone in trade it should be someone else, though KConn or Oesterle are the only ones I see as replaceable.
Oesterle may end up being a better player than some of us realize. I want to see what hes got with Goligoski for half the season before we start proposing a trade.

I really can't see us making any more moves until December unless a 1RW falls into our lap.
 

cobra427

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I don't know. If we're comfortable with Oesterle, KConn, and Lyubushkin 5-7 after camp, we could trade Demers above market value, sign Enstrom to replace the D depth if Lyubushkin seems shaky, and use the saved money to afford Kessel...

For example...
Demers is our best RHD, we can’t trade him unless an RHD is coming back. Forget Kessel, we won’t be trading for him anyway.
 
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Oesterle may end up being a better player than some of us realize. I want to see what hes got with Goligoski for half the season before we start proposing a trade.

I really can't see us making any more moves until December unless a 1RW falls into our lap.
Let's be patient here. Wait and see what happens in training camp.
 

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Haha. I wouldn’t go that far. I expect us to lose more games than we win.

That's interesting because based on the small sampling at the end of the year and the off season moves I'd be disappointed with anything less than a .500 record. I feel like the Yotes may have the widest range of possible outcomes for their season of any team, so I figure somewhere right around .500 is a reasonable expectation.
 

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That's interesting because based on the small sampling at the end of the year and the off season moves I'd be disappointed with anything less than a .500 record. I feel like the Yotes may have the widest range of possible outcomes for their season of any team, so I figure somewhere right around .500 is a reasonable expectation.
I’m counting post-regulation losses as losses. I believe the Coyotes will win fewer than 40 games this season.

Let’s say 38-34-10. That’s 88pts out of 164 possible. That’s .537. But it’s only 38wins out of 82 possible. That’s .463.

So what does .500 really mean?
 

AZviaNJ

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I’m counting post-regulation losses as losses. I believe the Coyotes will win fewer than 40 games this season.

Let’s say 38-34-10. That’s 88pts out of 164 possible. That’s .537. But it’s only 38wins out of 82 possible. That’s .463.

So what does .500 really mean?
88 points sounds about right, hopefully a few more. Still leaves AZ 7 points short of WC2 and 12 points out Pacific 3rd based on last year's standings.

Pacific should be very interesting this year.....maybe something like:

1. SJ
2-7 (Ana, Ari, Cgy, Edm, LAK, Vgs) - all within 10-12 points of each other.....any of these teams could make the playoffs or finish 6th-7th.
8. Vancouver.
 

Fyreman

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I’m counting post-regulation losses as losses. I believe the Coyotes will win fewer than 40 games this season.

Let’s say 38-34-10. That’s 88pts out of 164 possible. That’s .537. But it’s only 38wins out of 82 possible. That’s .463.

So what does .500 really mean?

Don't want to bust any balls here, but I only came up with 86pts, unless I'm missing something. I will say I'm extremely anxious to see how the season shakes out, I'm positive we will be a lot better, but the playoffs might be a stretch.
 
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88 points sounds about right, hopefully a few more. Still leaves AZ 7 points short of WC2 and 12 points out Pacific 3rd based on last year's standings.

Pacific should be very interesting this year.....maybe something like:

1. SJ
2-7 (Ana, Ari, Cgy, Edm, LAK, Vgs) - all within 10-12 points of each other.....any of these teams could make the playoffs or finish 6th-7th.
8. Vancouver.

Generally agree here. SJ is clearly the favorite in the division.

Anaheim - too old, so I think they're vulnerable to fall out of a playoff spot
Calgary - I think we're about even but we're better when they're down to their backup (Smith will inevitably get hurt)
Edmonton - they just lost a top 4 D for the season, they're going to suck again
LAK - slow, but I think they'll be OK. Carter for the full season and Kovy is good for 50 points. I think LA is better than us (don't shoot)
VGK - Due for a step back, if only because they can't possibly get any better
Vancouver - Rebuilding. That's pretty much it
 
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In the “where are they now” department.... Joe Vitale is now a radio color analyst with the Blues.

It seems like the Coyotes have had a decent number of players that have passed through here end up as broadcasters.
Vitale
Nash
Biz
Debrusk
Johnson
Boucher
and of course JR.

But maybe it's not that high since I'm not exactly counting other teams, but that's way too much work :laugh:
 

AZviaNJ

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It seems like the Coyotes have had a decent number of players that have passed through here end up as broadcasters.
Vitale
Nash
Biz
Debrusk
Johnson
Boucher
and of course JR.

But maybe it's not that high since I'm not exactly counting other teams, but that's way too much work :laugh:
Yeah, Devils have quite a few also Stevens, Daneyko, MacLean (prior to his AZ time), Resch, Gomez, etc.
 

Name Nameless

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Generally agree here. SJ is clearly the favorite in the division.

Anaheim - too old, so I think they're vulnerable to fall out of a playoff spot
Calgary - I think we're about even but we're better when they're down to their backup (Smith will inevitably get hurt)
Edmonton - they just lost a top 4 D for the season, they're going to suck again
LAK - slow, but I think they'll be OK. Carter for the full season and Kovy is good for 50 points. I think LA is better than us (don't shoot)
VGK - Due for a step back, if only because they can't possibly get any better
Vancouver - Rebuilding. That's pretty much it

What a horribly bad division. I still say... Play-offs! Play-offs! :naughty:

100 points, in at 3rd after Golden Knights and either SJ or Ducks.
 

Foggy1097

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If Raanta has top 5 tender numbers and our D core stays relatively healthy, we will be a playoff team...and rather easily I think. That may sound homerish but just look at what we have now compared to other teams in the Pacific and really the whole west. The only locks to make it that I can see are WPG, NSH, STL, and maybe MIN. The rest is kind of a crapshoot but I see us getting in comfortably if we meet the above requirements...
 
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Mosby

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It seems like the Coyotes have had a decent number of players that have passed through here end up as broadcasters.
Vitale
Nash
Biz
Debrusk
Johnson
Boucher
and of course JR.

But maybe it's not that high since I'm not exactly counting other teams, but that's way too much work :laugh:

Tocchet too.
 

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Coyotes will win 45 games, accumulate 96 pts and make the playoffs....exiting in the first round.
 
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