Around the NHL - Fun times for all in 2022-2023

[Mazatt]

I was listening to the radio the other day and the analyst made a good point that ultimately while every team has their medical staff, players in the end have most of their control as to whether they play or not. So until that changes, this issue is probably going to go on with a lot of different teams.

This was even the follow up tweet to what a lot of people are reacting too. The final decision likely lasts with the player. If the guy is able to suit up and play it is very, very hard to just not play him if he really wants to. Or to not play him because you need to save him from himself, that's an NHLPA grievance in the waiting.


Really the only thing the Flames could do was just outright bench him and have him around the team, not on IR, but also just not playing. Like leading a horse to water, you need the player to want to help themselves as the final step to getting a guy fully healthy by taking away time he could play just to get fully healthy.

 

[TheHudlinator]

Obviously the player has the final say on if they can play but that doesn't mean the team A) has to play him B) has to play him in the same role they would play the healthy version of himself.

 

[CamPopplestone]

The league should have some kind of trophy or special commemorative stick or something to present Kessel in his 1000th straight game. I know he's set the record now, but hitting 1000 straight is such a ridiculous thing, that I think the league should take the easy publicity, have some fun with it, and present Phil with something

 

[Some Other Flame]

I was listening to the radio the other day and the analyst made a good point that ultimately while every team has their medical staff, players in the end have most of their control as to whether they play or not. So until that changes, this issue is probably going to go on with a lot of different teams.

I'm not sure that flies with what happened with the likes of Smid, Robidas, and Lupul. There are probably more examples those are the ones I remember. All 3 had injuries and were shutdown by the team even though the players thought they could still play. Lupul in particular was pretty vocal about it.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

The league should have some kind of trophy or special commemorative stick or something to present Kessel in his 1000th straight game. I know he's set the record now, but hitting 1000 straight is such a ridiculous thing, that I think the league should take the easy publicity, have some fun with it, and present Phil with something

Like give him an iron stick? It'd be one of a kind and not one to be offered again in the near future haha

 

[Mazatt]

I'm not sure that flies with what happened with the likes of Smid, Robidas, and Lupul. There are probably more examples those are the ones I remember. All 3 had injuries and were shutdown by the team even though the players thought they could still play. Lupul in particular was pretty vocal about it.

A lot of that (from what I recall on Lupul) was getting an independent doctor to outright say he couldn't play. To sit Monahan down would either be convincing him he needed surgery early and to somehow legally coerce him into a procedure, or to get him to be deemed unplayable by an independent doc, and he clearly was able to play at a severely, severely reduced level. It's not just that the team shut himdown, he was confirmed as unplayable by the league.

The Flames only recourse would be to bench Monahan, have a dead cap hit on the roster, and essentially have one less roster spot just to try and force a guy into surgery. That would kill a guys desire to be on team, like Lupul, so even if you do in some way end up with Monahan healthy after he takes getting benched to heart, he's gone anyways. That's not an easy thing to suggest to a team for their alternate captain who some people thought would be the captain.

Frankly the thing to be upset about would be what we don't know happened behind closed doors. Did the Flames try and get him to get surgery? Did they openly commend him for his warrior lifestyle? We simply don't know, so throwing out conjecture on ways to ruin a relationship with a guy to force him into surgery doesn't seem all that condusive to real criticism of the team.

 

[Johnny Hoxville]

We do know that we have heard Treliving on the record saying that it was extremely hard to keep Monahan out of the lineup because of how insistent he was to play in the past. We also know last season that Sutter relegated him to fourth line minutes to reduce the amount of time he was on the ice.

 

[JPeeper]

There's a reason why I defend Monahan so much, A) he was never as bad as people think, B) the guy bled the Flaming C, he gave his body LITERALLY for this team, to an ultimate fault.

Yes, for better or worse he probably shouldn't have played in like half the games he ended up playing because of all his injuries, but the guy was a warrior and all social media ever did was hate on the guy for years. So compound his health, he can't sleep, he's always in pain, he's had countless cortisone shots, and for the most part all he sees on social media about him is negativity.
I never have and never will have a negative take on Monahan.

 

[Khrox]

There's a reason why I defend Monahan so much, A) he was never as bad as people think, B) the guy bled the Flaming C, he gave his body LITERALLY for this team, to an ultimate fault.

Yes, for better or worse he probably shouldn't have played in like half the games he ended up playing because of all his injuries, but the guy was a warrior and all social media ever did was hate on the guy for years. So compound his health, he can't sleep, he's always in pain, he's had countless cortisone shots, and for the most part all he sees on social media about him is negativity.
I never have and never will have a negative take on Monahan.

Absolutely this. I've been less vocal about it than you on here, but talking with others in public, I've always been big on Monahan. I still think the guys a stud. Maybe not a #1 center stud, but still a high-end #2 center (or even a top line winger who can take face-offs). Guy is a warrior through and through.

 

[CamPopplestone]

Like give him an iron stick? It'd be one of a kind and not one to be offered again in the near future haha

Yeah exactly. I think 1000 straight games played is deserving of something unique

 

[Bounces R Way]

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

Yeah exactly. I think 1000 straight games played is deserving of something unique

How do we petition the league to get that done? That would be so cool.

 

[TheHudlinator]

We do know that we have heard Treliving on the record saying that it was extremely hard to keep Monahan out of the lineup because of how insistent he was to play in the past. We also know last season that Sutter relegated him to fourth line minutes to reduce the amount of time he was on the ice.

Sutter admitted he handled Monahan wrong. The team is 100% at fault, you can say Monahan wanted to play but literally every player does that this team had no backbone or long term thought ironically not just on the ice

 

[Rubi]

 

[FLAMESFAN]

Have you guys seen the dressing rooms that the visiting teams have vs the Coyotes?
Man, I swear my kid dresses in better rooms! They have folding chairs to sit at, like how hard is it to put up a bench? LOL

 

[Anglesmith]

Have you guys seen the dressing rooms that the visiting teams have vs the Coyotes?
Man, I swear my kid dresses in better rooms! They have folding chairs to sit at, like how hard is it to put up a bench? LOL

In this economy?!

 

[flames23]

I know the dressing room fiasco got heat, but this is kind of neat. Got the Jets Yotes on now. Everyone in the crowd was given a mullett to wear. Haha, a fun little touch. Big save Dave in for the Jets and Valimaki in for the Yotes of course. Looks like the opposite of an outdoor game. So intimate for the fans. Lots of standing room only up top which I don't think I'd like myself, but this looks like a fun spot to take in a game as a short term novelty. Embarrassing, hilarious and fun all at once.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

Honestly, I don't know what the big deal is. Yeah it's not glamorous, but it's also not permanent. And if I were in Arizona, I'd go watch. There's no way I could justify getting lower bowl seats here. Also, I feel the Coyotes will have a new arena before we will.

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Honestly, I don't know what the big deal is. Yeah it's not glamorous, but it's also not permanent. And if I were in Arizona, I'd go watch. There's no way I could justify getting lower bowl seats here. Also, I feel the Coyotes will have a new arena before we will.

It's almost cheaper to fly to Arizona to watch a game in the best seats there than to do the same in Calgary.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

It's almost cheaper to fly to Arizona to watch a game in the best seats there than to do the same in Calgary.

Yeah I remember a few years ago how cheap tickets were there that I went twice in the same week: once to cheer on the Flames and the second time to cheer on the Yotes. They were playing Vancouver, so it was easy to haha

 

[TheHudlinator]

Honestly, I don't know what the big deal is. Yeah it's not glamorous, but it's also not permanent. And if I were in Arizona, I'd go watch. There's no way I could justify getting lower bowl seats here. Also, I feel the Coyotes will have a new arena before we will.

Well frankly it's embarrassing the "best league in the world" has a dressing room worse then my local rink.

 

[Some Other Flame]

 

[Tkachuk Norris]

This is why Oobs hasn’t got enough credit. 5 on 5 scoring is more sexy but special teams often are the difference in the game and Oobs has been elite on the PP.

 

[Rubi]

Honestly, I don't know what the big deal is. Yeah it's not glamorous, but it's also not permanent. And if I were in Arizona, I'd go watch. There's no way I could justify getting lower bowl seats here. Also, I feel the Coyotes will have a new arena before we will.

It's almost cheaper to fly to Arizona to watch a game in the best seats there than to do the same in Calgary.

Good luck on getting a couple of tickets though. 5000 seats and I believe 4600 are held by season ticket holders and the balance of 400 are for ASU students.
If you want great seats at a cheap price... fly to Ottawa. That rink is half empty most of the time.

 

[Boomstick]

Columbus is shit. Loss 7-1 to the Devils.
I remember last year we destroyed them, I think it was 6-0 but we had 60 something shots on them.
I get he wanted to go closer to home, but holy hell, he's not sniffing the playoffs any time soon. What a mistake. Oh well, Not our problem anymore.