Around the NHL — Episode XLXVI

[Senscore]

Rod just may get the boot.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

What a dumb pass by Gordon there, what was he thinking?

 

[Super Cake]

You know if i was a Canes fan, i would never want to see Andersen in a Canes jersey every again. Some weak ass goals against him this game.

 

[Micklebot]

You know if i was a Canes fan, i would never want to see Andersen in a Canes jersey every again. Some weak ass goals against him this game.

Maybe they'd be interested in Korpisalo...

 

[Icelevel]

Pulling pretty early, will it cost them?

Always does.
They were lucky those first couple shots didn’t go in.

 

[JungleBeat]

Andersen sucks in the clutch. Can't trust him, Rags will win this series.

Called it, never seen a guy fold so much in critical situations.

 

[Ouroboros]

Brind'Amour to the Leafs IMO.

 

[branch]

Zibanejad has developed into quite a leader, he’s the total package. This one still stings

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Rangers one step closer. I'm a bit ambivalent on who wins the Cup this year, but if NY gets it, it would be good for the league. Big market US team....the NHL probably needs that right now.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Zibanejad has 14 points in 10 playoff games this season and hovers around a PPG the last 6 or so seasons during the regular season. Near PPG in the playoffs total.

Can you imagine being so f***ing bad at your job that you trade him for an aging vet AND send them a 2nd rounder.

 

[GCK]

Thanks for the input. It's a shame some of these things continue. The Genocide of the FN people in NA is one of the greatest atrocities in human history. Personally, I just think the reality behind what happened (and has carried forward in so many ways) was so deplorable that if FN groups want change to these antiquated slogans/logos/names with a derogatory history, let them have it.

I was mostly looking to dispel the BS the other poster was spewing about how it's all the angry woke folk to blame. Maybe that's what got them to actually listen, but FN groups have advocated for change to a lot of these for ages.

Wow, the Canes blow it. Tough go, it was right there for them.

To be fair I may be a little more realistic than some. There is still a ton of work to do to breakdown stereotypes but I personally find that there are some who dwell too much in the past. If there was equality in health care, a reasonable effort to get clean drinking water to the north, and a less racist justice system then that would be all the reconciliation I need. I’ve never lived on a reserve but I have extended family who do and let me tell you, it’s not all the “white man’s” fault. At some point responsibility falls on the individual even though the system feels gamed sometimes.

Can’t win with a man on man Dzone system.

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Zibanejad has 14 points in 10 playoff games this season and hovers around a PPG the last 6 or so seasons during the regular season. Near PPG in the playoffs total.

Can you imagine being so f***ing bad at your job that you trade him for an aging vet AND send them a 2nd rounder.

The entire history of Dorion's tenure is him genuinely not looking ahead to the future at all.

Trades 23 year old Zibanejad not being patient enough for him to develop.
Trades a 1st for Duchene not anticipating our team collapsing.
Trading a high 2nd for a Stepan that barely had anything left in the tank.
Trading Gustavsson for an old Cam Talbot.
Trading 7th overall, a 2nd and a 3rd for Debrincat despite not talking to his agent at all prior to the trade to see if he would be willing to extend.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

The entire history of Dorion's tenure is him genuinely not looking ahead to the future at all.

Trades 23 year old Zibanejad not being patient enough for him to develop.
Trades a 1st for Duchene not anticipating our team collapsing.
Trading a high 2nd for a Stepan that barely had anything left in the tank.
Trading Gustavsson for an old Cam Talbot.
Trading 7th overall, a 2nd and a 3rd for Debrincat despite not talking to his agent at all prior to the trade to see if he would be willing to extend.

He was so f***ing bad at his job.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

He was so f***ing bad at his job.

Yep. The assets this team had when they decided to tear it down and rebuild....makes you wonder where we'd be now if we had a good GM.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Yep. The assets this team had when they decided to tear it down and rebuild....makes you wonder where we'd be now if we had a good GM.

We'd be best in class

 

[Ice-Tray]

Thanks for the input. It's a shame some of these things continue. The Genocide of the FN people in NA is one of the greatest atrocities in human history. Personally, I just think the reality behind what happened (and has carried forward in so many ways) was so deplorable that if FN groups want change to these antiquated slogans/logos/names with a derogatory history, let them have it.

I was mostly looking to dispel the BS the other poster was spewing about how it's all the angry woke folk to blame. Maybe that's what got them to actually listen, but FN groups have advocated for change to a lot of these for ages.

Wow, the Canes blow it. Tough go, it was right there for them.

Terrible by all metrics, and still suffering from systemic racism and culture decimation, but sadly it’s not anywhere close to one of the greatest human atrocities in human history.

I find the canes to be so soft.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

To be fair I may be a little more realistic than some. There is still a ton of work to do to breakdown stereotypes but I personally find that there are some who dwell too much in the past. If there was equality in health care, a reasonable effort to get clean drinking water to the north, and a less racist justice system then that would be all the reconciliation I need. I’ve never lived on a reserve but I have extended family who do and let me tell you, it’s not all the “white man’s” fault. At some point responsibility falls on the individual even though the system feels gamed sometimes.

Can’t win with a man on man Dzone system.

I think that's probably wise. You don't want to just be a loud virtue signaler, you want to inspire and advocate for real change in the most important areas, like the ones you mention. You are right that at some point the responsibility falls on the individual, I just find the cycle makes that harder for some than others and it is still going to take many years to hopefully reverse some of the cycles. I guess I just feel so much sympathy because of the history and am sensitive to the fact that everyone's experience is still their own and a lot of abuse and substance abuse in the communities keeps the cycles going, but I do get the sentiment that it can't go on forever.

 

[Senscore]

Edmonton Vancouver living up to the hype.


Another barnburner game.

 

[Senovision]

Don't you forget about me by Simple Minds is the Vancouver Canucks goal song.
A weird choice for a goal song.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

Oilers just getting dominated 5 on 5. McJesus needs to take it to another level, he's looking far too mortal right now.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Terrible by all metrics, and still suffering from systemic racism and culture decimation, but sadly it’s not anywhere close to one of the greatest human atrocities in human history.

I find the canes to be so soft.

I guess here isn't the place for that conversation, and you're right that there's countless of examples of arguably worse in nature and/or death toll, but I think what helps it rank is government involvement and being in relatively modern history. It was a long war with the goal of genocide. The US Government authorized over 1,500 wars, attacks and raids on them, the most of any country in the world against its Indigenous people. Things like the Indian Removal Bill were being signed and voted in less than 200 years ago. This was a war with a tremendously advantaged regime that wiped out an estimated ~90% of their population, along with the disease they brought with them. I feel like at that level, it's probably splitting hairs to find worse suffering, it's just more, but I could be ignorant to some good examples. Crazy how close we are to such savagery though.

They are, they blew that.

 

[Ice-Tray]

I guess here isn't the place for that conversation, and you're right that there's countless of examples of arguably worse in nature and/or death toll, but I think what helps it rank is government involvement and being in relatively modern history. It was a long war with the goal of genocide. The US Government authorized over 1,500 wars, attacks and raids on them, the most of any country in the world against its Indigenous people. Things like the Indian Removal Bill were being signed and voted in less than 200 years ago. This was a war with a tremendously advantaged regime that wiped out an estimated ~90% of their population, along with the disease they brought with them. I feel like at that level, it's probably splitting hairs to find worse suffering, it's just more, but I could be ignorant to some good examples. Crazy how close we are to such savagery though.

They are, they blew that.

I definitely wanted to make sure I toed the line of not minimizing at all while alluding to the long list of truly horrifying things humans have done to each other on a massive scale, especially in the ancient world.

Hitler and Stalin certainly tried to make the cut in the modern world. Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, Hutus and Tutsies, the slavery, war, rebellion, that led to the founding of Haiti….

It’s a sordid list and you’re right, we still aren’t that far removed. I mean Gaza is shaping up to be atrocious on a grand scale, Ukraine has had its share as well.

Will we ever learn?

Having said that, I am enjoying these playoffs.

 

[Senscore]

If the Canucks lose this game that blown open net chance is going to haunt Hoglander.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Don't you forget about me by Simple Minds is the Vancouver Canucks goal song.
A weird choice for a goal song.

Weird but very cool.

 

[Senscore]

Miller gives the Canucks the lead with 30 seconds left.


This is really been a fantastic series.