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I would give up the first, and Bracco. Lilly only goes if the d man is great.
Liljegren yes, but I wouldn’t give up a first unless the D is cheap and great....
I would give up the first, and Bracco. Lilly only goes if the d man is great.
Liljegren yes, but I wouldn’t give up a first unless the D is cheap and great....
If it's cheap and great. They can take the first
How many draft picks do we need?
Sandin will be great for us. As long as we keep him
Heck, I would even bring him up and dump Z to A
On headlines today, Kyper said leafs are looking for a RHD, but the price is really high which makes sense. It would be something like a first round pick, Lilly, and maybe Bracco.
He also said leafs are not parting with Sandin.
Kapanen has also got a lot of interest, but Elliote said, Dubas told other teams, "no sale".
I'm not surprised about Sandin, the kids been outstanding since his draft day and he's Duba's first draft pick as GM
I'm not surprised about Kapanen either, the kids been outstanding
I'd be willing to give up our 1st Liljegren or Bracco but I'm not to keen to potentially giving up both unless the RD is absolutely perfect with plenty of term left on his deal
No one is going to give a top D or F with a decent salary and term for prospects and the last thing the leafs need are more rentals or guys on short term contracts.
They are the 6th worst shot differential team in the league, I doubt Lehner and Greiss will put up a Vezina caliber performance for them for the entire season.The dinosaur Lou Lam has his Isles in first place in the Metro and about to get another 2 points today. Who'd have thought after they lost JT?
They are the 6th worst shot differential team in the league, I doubt Lehner and Greiss will put up a Vezina caliber performance for them for the entire season.
The dinosaur Lou Lam has his Isles in first place in the Metro and about to get another 2 points today. Who'd have thought after they lost JT?
No one is going to give a top D or F with a decent salary and term for prospects and the last thing the leafs need are more rentals or guys on short term contracts.
The dinosaur Lou Lam has his Isles in first place in the Metro and about to get another 2 points today. Who'd have thought after they lost JT?
Trotz has done a lot for them
They are the 6th worst shot differential team in the league, I doubt Lehner and Greiss will put up a Vezina caliber performance for them for the entire season.
Both Lehner and Greiss are outperforming their expected save percentage though, so they are both relative strengths. The team has been very strong defensively as well, which just goes to show what a difference coaching can make. I'm not entirely sure that the offense can keep it up though.Lehner and greiss are making easy saves really, with low shots against.
The islanders are playing a complete game, and their defense is amazing. They remind me of the 1990 / 2000 devils. Roll 4 lines / 6 D evenly, take the lead, and shut em down.
This isn't the lehner / greiss saving the day every game. The islanders young D core has turned it around as well. 3 really good skating D man that can carry the puck end to end are game changers.
Both Lehner and Greiss are outperforming their expected save percentage though, so they are both relative strengths. The team has been very strong defensively as well, which just goes to show what a difference coaching can make. I'm not entirely sure that the offense can keep it up though.
That's the point. Expected save percentage take that into account, and Greiss and Lehner has done better than the average goaltender would. The stat is designed to address exactly what you describe here.It's easier to make saves when the shots are from low percentage areas and your D man are clearing the path and you're facing under 20 shots.
The isles only allowed 19 shots against the defending Stanly cup champs in DC, coming off a game the previous night. Did greiss make 1 or two really nice saves yea but you don't see any highlight over their head game breaking highlight saves. There's a lot more to save % than just the number.
They also held the ducks to 19 shots in todays 3-0 win. Zero breakaways, zero odd man rushes for the ducks. All mainly outside shots.
That's the point. Expected save percentage take that into account, and Greiss and Lehner has done better than the average goaltender would. The stat is designed to address exactly what you describe here.
No you misunderstand it.Expected Save Percentage (xSv%) – The save percentage that a goalie should have with a league average performance given the quality of chances he faced. It is important to note that expected save percentage is NOT a measure of how the goalie has actually performed, it merely serves as a benchmark for the save percentage that an average goalie should have posted, given the quality of chances he faced.
One of the major failures of advanced stats. This is saying the performance the goalie SHOULD have if you averaged all of the NHL teams quality shots against (league average performance).
That's absolutely irrelevant. If, let's say the coyotes gave up a horrible amount of high end scoring chances all season, and play a more open offensively aggressive style and the islanders are consistently giving up only 20 shots per game, playing the trap, with super low quality shots for most of the season, averaging an "expected save %" from the chances against combined with the yotes and the rest of the NHL is totally irrelevant.
No you misunderstand it.
Expected save percentage works like this. For every shot against, they take the league average save percentage on shots like that. That means that over the course of a game, you'll get an idea of what the average goaltender would end up with as a save percentage given the kind of shots they faced. Then you compare what the goaltender actually got to that, and you can see if he did better or worse than the average goaltender would have.
So what happens is that if a goaltender has a .920 save percentage and faces a ton of easy chances, he might actually do worse compared to what the average goaltender would have done. See Devan Dubnyk for an example of that. But a goaltender with a .915 might look great because he's actually hung out to dry, and the average goaltender is expected to have a .905 save percentage if faced by those shots.
And shot differential is much more important than goal differential or wins.They are the 6th worst shot differential team in the league, I doubt Lehner and Greiss will put up a Vezina caliber performance for them for the entire season.
They don't need to be the exact same either way. Just by looking at a few extra variables that have immense effect on the goaltenders ability to save them, we can get much better data.I understand what you're saying but it's a false assumption. "If faced by those shots" isn't a thing. That's not a real thing, that's not tangible at all.
Each individual shot is different with many different variables. There has never once been two identical shots with the same trajectory, velocity, angle, height of goalie, view of goalie....etc etc..