Around the League 39: Will Kessel Sign in Winnipeg? The World Waits with Dogged Breath!

[WreckingCrew]

All I want this year is the Canes to win the Cup, eliminating the Leafs int he ECF and Oilers in the SCF, both in OT on highly controversial calls that we can use to troll the shit out of the hockey community for the rest of our lives

Actual controversial calls? Or like Brodeur/Devils calling for GI after pushing into Jokinen during the GWG with < 1 sec left in the game "controversial"?

 

[Svechhammer]

Actual controversial calls? Or like Brodeur/Devils calling for GI after pushing into Jokinen during the GWG with < 1 sec left in the game "controversial"?

I mean like full on foot in the crease or video review uncovered 12 hours later shows the puck had clearly been scored earlier in OT but was never counted kind of thing.

 

[WreckingCrew]

I mean like full on foot in the crease or video review uncovered 12 hours later shows the puck had clearly been scored earlier in OT but was never counted kind of thing.

So you want "the fix is in" / conspiracy level controversy!!

 

[NotOpie]

Canes to Canada. "....sweep the leg".

 

[Chrispy]

I mean like full on foot in the crease or video review uncovered 12 hours later shows the puck had clearly been scored earlier in OT but was never counted kind of thing.

And it is Kotkaniemi's foot, so we can refer to it as a "Montreal screwjob."

 

[Svechhammer]

And it is Kotkaniemi's foot, so we can refer to it as a "Montreal screwjob."

Assisted by Aho, just to drive the point home even more

 

[Svechhammer]

And then we have Stormy teabag the Cup as the players perform the Storm Surge before the handshake line. But this is the understood part

 

[hblueridgegal]

Jackie's off to greener pastures.

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[Big Daddy Cane]

It’s the market that has determined that carrying 23 players all the time not to be a necessity. Teams get caught undermanned a few times per year in total. It’s more efficient for that money to be distributed elsewhere in the lineup.

The same is true of spending to the cap (re: the constant reference to so many teams being up against the ceiling). The rise of salary retention as an expectation rather than an occasional tool makes entering the season with meaningful space inefficient.

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

Or, hear me out, GM’s could allocate their budget properly and there would be room for more players. But what do I know. I am just a fan of the Cup favorites who have one of the top cap situations in the league.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Or, hear me out, GM’s could allocate their budget properly and there would be room for more players. But what do I know. I am just a fan of the Cup favorites who have one of the top cap situations in the league.

Yea an agent would never take such a stance.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

The rise of salary retention as an expectation rather than an occasional tool makes entering the season with meaningful space inefficient.

Not if the deadline targets are players with term attached. That's when having cap space is not inefficient.

 

[Big Daddy Cane]

Not if the deadline targets are players with term attached. That's when having cap space is not inefficient.

The bulk of in-season activity involves the primary player not having term, a core driver of movement as a whole. In the absence of that, offsetting cap (to whatever degree) offers similar utility. That’s Barrie in the Ekholm trade. Inevitable injuries can give teams the needed space as well.

At a macro level, organizations are acting rationally.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

i dont have the heart to tell the Canucks fans in the main board thread about trading for a RHD that Cole is going to get beat up pretty hard against fast top 6 players. They are going to spend a bunch of time on the PK.

They seem to love how great he has been in the........ pre-season.

 

[Derailed75]

It’s the market that has determined that carrying 23 players all the time not to be a necessity. Teams get caught undermanned a few times per year in total. It’s more efficient for that money to be distributed elsewhere in the lineup.

The same is true of spending to the cap (re: the constant reference to so many teams being up against the ceiling). The rise of salary retention as an expectation rather than an occasional tool makes entering the season with meaningful space inefficient.

Gee Wally I woulda never thought a guy that profits from more money allowed to be spent would be against restraining how much money is spent

Brought to you by the letter A as in agents the only humans with less morals than lawyers

 

[A Star is Burns]

Well, I like the hard cap and can't stand Walsh, so yeah, there's that.

 

[sabremike]

COME AT ME SIDNEY!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[A Star is Burns]

COME AT ME SIDNEY!!!!!!!!!!!

Just saw the clip after seeing you and others mention it on Twitter. Very generous for those in Twitter that called that a fight.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Just saw the clip after seeing you and others mention it on Twitter. Very generous for those in Twitter that called that a fight.

Not only was it not a fight, but yet again a player takes a fairly tame, clean hit, and some douchebag (Crysby) comes flying in with high cross-checks to instigate a fight.

 

[tarheelhockey]

It’s the market that has determined that carrying 23 players all the time not to be a necessity. Teams get caught undermanned a few times per year in total. It’s more efficient for that money to be distributed elsewhere in the lineup.

The same is true of spending to the cap (re: the constant reference to so many teams being up against the ceiling). The rise of salary retention as an expectation rather than an occasional tool makes entering the season with meaningful space inefficient.

The strange thing about his stance is that the issue is with the roster minimum, not the cap. The players can get those jobs back without changing the cap at all.

 

[AD Skinner]

I’m about as lefty pro-labor as it gets but in this case I feel like maybe I’m missing something? Like if you are a fringe nhl player you’re always in danger of losing your job. If you’ve earned a guaranteed contract, yes you should get everything that was agreed to- but am I wrong in thinking that depth healthy scratch players are who this would really affect?

 

[Bub]

TBH I’d really enjoy a Leafs-Oilers final. That might be my favorite matchup since Canucks-Bruins.

It would be 2 weeks of pure unhinged shitshow and extremely watchable sloppy hockey. Some incident would go down that would still be a hot-button topic 20 years later. Canada would finally get a Cup so they could shut the **** up about it already, and at the same time a loudmouthed Canadian fanbase would still get their hearts completely ripped out. Ideally McDavid would get his Cup and Toronto would have an apocalyptic meltdown online and in real life. Don Cherry would have an actual heart attack. HF servers would be nonexistent throughout all of this. We’d all get back in here like 3 days after the last game and it would be like that first day in the office after COVID where we commiserate on our shared trauma.

Only two things could possibly top this:

1. Canes win Cup (obvs).

2. Seattle beats Toronto in Game 7 OT when league official in Toronto (LOL) decline to rule a Kraken offside on the winning goal. Leafs fans spend the next "20 years" (as you say) splitting the video into finer and finer hairs trying to show that "SkateGate" was a real thing and the Leafs should be declared winners. A mock parade is held on Yonge Street every year thereafter.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I’m about as lefty pro-labor as it gets but in this case I feel like maybe I’m missing something? Like if you are a fringe nhl player you’re always in danger of losing your job. If you’ve earned a guaranteed contract, yes you should get everything that was agreed to- but am I wrong in thinking that depth healthy scratch players are who this would really affect?

It's just a negotiating tactic. Play this off as "I'm in it for the little guy who won't have an NHL job" when, in reality, his goal is to remove the hard cap so the stars can get more money, and thus he does too.

 

[chaz4hockey]

It's just a negotiating tactic. Play this off as "I'm in it for the little guy who won't have an NHL job" when, in reality, his goal is to remove the hard cap so the stars can get more money, and thus he does too.

agree.....I'd qualify by stating that 18 of his 27 players under contract are $900K or less and probably fall into the category he is complaining about:

NHL Contracts by Agent Allan Walsh | Puckpedia

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[bleedgreen]

I don’t see how you can argue against the caps overall success. It’s worked. I haven’t always been a fan and I’m not sure I am now but there’s parity and every team in the league has a chance if it can follow the formula right.