Speculation: Armchair GM 2022 Off-Season Edition: The Summer of Brad
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I wouldn’t be so quick to run hanifin/andy/kylington just because mcdavid did mcdavid things. We don’t have another top 4 lhd after kylington after all….
I mean they were a 98 pt pair. I get the criticism, but even at their worst they can be a very good second pair.
Seems like a quick way to ruin your team. In saying that, we’re f***ed. The cap crunch that’s coming up is going to destroy our depth, and the Gaudreau situation is looming large.
If we can’t keep him, scorched earth should he our course of action. So that means mediocrity for yrs to come…
I mean they were a 98 pt pair. I get the criticism, but even at their worst they can be a very good second pair.
Seems like a quick way to ruin your team. In saying that, we’re f***ed. The cap crunch that’s coming up is going to destroy our depth, and the Gaudreau situation is looming large.
If we can’t keep him, scorched earth should he our course of action. So that means mediocrity for yrs to come…
Mobiandi
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I don't know and I don't particularly care anymore. This was the year.
Hanifin-Andersson combined for -21 in 12 games. One or both can't be coming back after that.
Hanifin-Andersson combined for -21 in 12 games. One or both can't be coming back after that.
Iggys Dome
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I guess I just don't see a better way of finding a top pairing defenseman, because I think that's what this team sorely needs rn. Tanev playing with literally half of his body was our best defenseman all series. This team needs a reliable top pairing defenseman in the worst way.
As for the Gaudreau situation, I fully agree. I think everything hinges on if he signs here and how much for (anything above 10M is too much for me..). If he jumps ship to NJ or Philly we are kinda f***ed. And I'm gonna be honest, I'd just give Tkachuk is QO or use him as trade bait. Something about him screams late 20's decline.
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If Johnny comes back, trade Hanifin for someone who is not a defensive liability for 20+ minutes in a game.
If Johnny walks, trade all assets for futures and tank for either Bedard or Michkov. This team is in dire need for a top 1-2 pick in the draft for the first time in club history. It's clear after getting knocked out by that ridiculous joke of a hockey team that all you need is a generational talent to carry you onto the next round.
If Johnny walks, trade all assets for futures and tank for either Bedard or Michkov. This team is in dire need for a top 1-2 pick in the draft for the first time in club history. It's clear after getting knocked out by that ridiculous joke of a hockey team that all you need is a generational talent to carry you onto the next round.
Im honestly leaning to blowing it up. I just dont see how this team can get better. We need a player better than JG if we want to win anything, and we will never get that with him on the team(Eichel sure wouldve helped but lets dump assets for a winger monahan and a guy that cant score instead), hes pretty amazing, but cant be your best guy. This is as far as this core can go, im almost sure of it. So instead of toiling around no mans land as a bubble team with an odd win here or there, i rather rip the bandaid off and just rebuild.
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I don't think we have to blow it up, but I do think some pretty big changes should be made. I don't think giving Tkachuk a big contract will work out and if he wants a big raise, he needs to be traded. I want Gaudreau re-signed but he will likely cost quite a bit. Hanifin and Andersson need a lot more growth and if they can't do it fast enough we may need to bring in someone who is capable of playing big minutes even if it means trading one of them. Toffoli was useless for far too long during the playoffs, I wouldn't care if he was traded.
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Nobody is untouchable including Treliving
But I am 100% sure Treliving will be back.
It’s going to be tough fixing this team
The team basically quit during the playoffs. Lucky to get by Dallas mostly because the Stars refused to play offense.
The core was horrid against the Oilers. You typically keep the core and supplement them but it’s the opposite with this team.
But I am 100% sure Treliving will be back.
It’s going to be tough fixing this team
The team basically quit during the playoffs. Lucky to get by Dallas mostly because the Stars refused to play offense.
The core was horrid against the Oilers. You typically keep the core and supplement them but it’s the opposite with this team.
BRobMint
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I doubt the front office is gonna blow things up. Brad’s likely gonna do everything he can to keep both Johnny and Chucky on the team even if it means losing some depth. We try going for it again with a slightly different squad next year
Yep until the Gaudreau situation is resolved really hard to comment on where to go. However the lack of cap space is a huge concern obviously. The thing is Sutter won’t trust kids and we will need Mackey, Valimaki, Ruzicka, Pelletier and Phillips to be on the team next year for their contracts. But don’t see it with our GM and coach.
Volica
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I think Sutter would have done wonders for Eichel.
Let’s all face facts, they’ll tinker, and then they’ll point to us being ‘close’.
It’s been the Flames M.O for my adult life.
BRobMint
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BRobMint
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At the end of the day I ain’t gonna dwell too much on what Eichel would’ve been like on the Flames. Keeping Chucky was the right move at the time and definitely looked like the right decision with his 100 point season. None of us saw his lackluster playoffs coming
Gaudreau is going to dictate what this team does and they need to decide before the draft if they can sign him to a decent deal. If they can't get him signed they should consider tearing it down.
It never would've taken tkachuk, its part of negotiations. You cant tell me you would take tuch but not someone like mangiapane, is krebs better than pellets? Im not so sure about that. Sure many things prob went into it including the cap, but when stuff like we were never really in game come up in the Eichel saga, it makes you lose all faith in treliving.
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Treliving needs to go. He spent a full draft on two players who are basically another Dillon Dube and Sean Monahan. Time and time again he proves he’s completely clueless about player evaluation.
Give me Bob Murray. If we had him instead of Treliving the last decade this team would have won a cup.
Trade Tkachuk for 2nd overall + and sign Forsberg who is a much better player.
Give me Bob Murray. If we had him instead of Treliving the last decade this team would have won a cup.
Trade Tkachuk for 2nd overall + and sign Forsberg who is a much better player.
BRobMint
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I was honestly going off rumors. I can’t blame Buffalo for taking Vegas’ package. Tuch is a local guy and wants to be in Buffalo and has been a great addition to their team. Kerbs looks promising as well
I mean when the package was monahan/dube and zary and a 1st, id take the vegas offer too lol. This isnt even me dwelling on the Eichel trade, this is just me trying to show the utter incompetence of treliving
MichaelFarrell
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Starts with JG first. Does he stay or walk away? Then comes MT. RFA who is a year away from ufa with a $9 mill QO with arbitration rights coming off a 100 point season. Could get more than his QO in arbitration.
Those 2 dictate the Flames future.
If they at least retain MT long term what else do they have coming through the system offensively? And what can they do in free agency or trade if JG leaves?
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