Are Russian forwards among the best in the World?

[User9992]

Are Russian forwards among the best in the World?

Tarasenko, Panarin, Malkin, Kucherov, Radulov, struggling Ovi etc.

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[WannabeFinn]

Yeah..?

Don't think anyone is saying otherwise

 

[1989]

Great scoring talents, but not necessarily winning forwards, perhaps?
Obviously hockey is a team game, but I'm not even talking about just at the NHL level. While it's not the forward's fault that Russia lacks great depth in their defense, they don't play enough of a 2-way game to help compensate and overcome their weaknesses, regardless of their pure offensive prowess.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

sure

 

[Plural]

Obviously. On a good day they can fight even Canada in scoring power.

 

[Festinator]

This would be a true statement. So are the Finns, Czechs, Americans, Canadians, etc.

 

[JayE]

Great scoring talents, but not necessarily winning forwards, perhaps?
Obviously hockey is a team game, but I'm not even talking about just at the NHL level. While it's not the forward's fault that Russia lacks great depth in their defense, they don't play enough of a 2-way game to help compensate and overcome their weaknesses, regardless of their pure offensive prowess.

The two best two-way forwards of the last 25 years have been Russian.

 

[Kale Hulls]

They aren't among the best, they are the best.

 

[Dirty Dan]

They have among the best combination of speed, skill, shooting, and power of any players

but they lack the two way play, defensive awareness, and board play and hard work of the canadian boys even if they dont have the talent they outwork and outsmart them

canadians are stoic and poised and russians tend to be tempermental

in the world juniors the systems arent as strong so the russian teams are sick i must say they dominate in these types of games

 

[McBaevid]

They've always had some of the best offensive players in the world, their problem has always come from having their forwards weaker on the defensive side and their defence/goaltending being weak

 

[Havre]

"Among the best in the World" is covering a bit too much in the world of hockey.

Are they still second best?

Without having reflected much about it the Americans might soon be in a position to say they got better forwards than the Russians. Not sure if that has happened before.

As of today I would say second best. Followed by USA and Sweden. A bit surprised that quite a few of the Swedish fairly young forwards, slowly and without much attention, have established themselves as solid forwards - if not superstars yet. Finland and Czech Republic struggling at the moment having close to no depth behind the top 2-3 players.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

If only the Russians won in 1917, we could have added Laine to the list

 

[jacks*]

This would be a true statement. So are the Finns, Czechs, Americans, Canadians, etc.

Ya I would agree.

 

[BorntoLose]

i mean yea thought that it was common knowledge

 

[Caps8112]

This is just my opinion but have thought this for a while.

Russians: All the skill in the world, more so then Canadians in some ways but not enough
ferocity to their game.

US: Lower on the skill level then Canadians and Russians but lots of ferocity and heart

Candians: Total package.

 

[Machinehead]

Are bananas yellow?

 

[Tripod]

Are bananas yellow?

Not always. Sometimes green. Sometimes black.

 

[WarriorofTime]

This is just my opinion but have thought this for a while.

Russians: All the skill in the world, more so then Canadians in some ways but not enough
ferocity to their game.

US: Lower on the skill level then Canadians and Russians but lots of ferocity and heart

Candians: Total package.

It is silly to stereotype by nationality. There are tenacious Russians, skilled Americans and Canadians that are not the total package.

 

[Absolut]

This is just my opinion but have thought this for a while.

Russians: All the skill in the world, more so then Canadians in some ways but not enough
ferocity to their game.

US: Lower on the skill level then Canadians and Russians but lots of ferocity and heart

Candians: Total package.

Such a stereotype-driven approach to the game. Really simplistic. Amazing that it still exists.

 

[unknown33]

No, they are bottom tier alongside Mexican and Korean forwards.

 

[JAS 39 Gripen]

eeeh, what a question... Atleast they are miles better than the swedish forwards at the moment...

 

[Bouboumaster]

I don't know, but what I do know is that Radulov is a total beast, and we are goddamn happy to have him in Montreal

 

[Blue Line Turnover]

The two best two-way forwards of the last 25 years have been Russian.

I'm drawing a blank on the second name after Dats

 

[Brownies]

I'm drawing a blank on the second name after Dats

Fedorov

 

[ChiefWiggum]

They have among the best combination of speed, skill, shooting, and power of any players

but they lack the two way play, defensive awareness, and board play and hard work of the canadian boys even if they dont have the talent they outwork and outsmart them

canadians are stoic and poised and russians tend to be tempermental

in the world juniors the systems arent as strong so the russian teams are sick i must say they dominate in these types of games

I think this is fairly outdated. The Canadians are now the most talented teams. This is evident from this past World Cup as Canada DOMINATED their opponents and the North American team showed the immense skill Canada will have to offer for years to come from people like MacKinnon, McDavid, etc. The old Soviet teams with BOATLOADS of skill are a thing of the past. Whereas the soviet teams played a style of puck possession until they generated a Grade-A scoring chance, Russian teams now shoot from wherever and play with next to no flow or style.

As well, I think there are many Russians in contemporary times who do play a very gritty, blue collar two-way style. Look no further than Artem Anisimov of the Chicago Blackhawks. As well, there is Lyubimov and Kulemin.