Estlin
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Because when Sweeney picks up the phone to call Adams over the summer to enquire about trading for Jack Eichel, he will not have burned any bridges or established a poor working relationship with Buffalo's GM.
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Because when Sweeney picks up the phone to call Adams over the summer to enquire about trading for Jack Eichel, he will not have burned any bridges or established a poor working relationship with Buffalo's GM.
This is pretty much how I understood it went down. The one thing I'll add is that at some point when they went back to Hall he had decided that he wanted to go to Boston. This isn't Bruins management spin, every credible source has it that way.
The take is that he went through the list of teams and figured out where he had the best chance to improve his season and where there was any possibility of resigning.
Well you seemed to be saying it was the Bruins putting that spin on it, at least that's what I understood. That is what I was saying is wrong.
From watching several insider videos that's what Wally described is pretty accurate.
The question is "why would Sweeney have given up a 2nd if Taylor Hall requested to only go to the Bruins?"
I said "I think there's a PR angle, wherever Taylor Hall ended up, there would be a story that he wanted to go there. Maybe they got 2 or 3 options, went to Hall and said "the return is all the same here, where would you like to go?"
Wally quoted the post and agreed with me.
That's why I think the Bruins traded a 2nd round pick.
You said "pretty sure your wrong"
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I have my reservations about Don Sweeney, but I don't think he's a complete moron...and I know he's not just giving away 2nd round picks for the hell of it. I don't have a doubt in my mind he gave a 2nd because he had to.
Sabers fans were livid with this deal. The Sabers don't necessarily have to make the deal. A second and Bjork is a small price to pay for these two player's.
I don't disagree it's a small price, that's not even the conversation though. The conversation starts here: Page 3
It sounds like we're just not on the same page at all here for what's even being discussed so I'm just going to leave it there. It sounds like you agree with me, but insist on telling me I'm wrong anyway, which is bizarre..but I think it's due to not having the context of the question at hand.
I already told what I disagreed with. But we've done this before, I'll follow your lead and let it go.
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^ This. Buffalo could just as easily put the screws to Sweeney- "we know you absolutely have to get an elite scorer or you will lose your job- here is what Hall will cost you". They didn't and for the same reason Sweeney didn't screw them- GMs have to deal with each other in the future and people remember people who f*** them over.
As for Hall I don't think he was that adamant about coming to Boston, I think he just wanted to go to any city not named Buffalo. Man did he & his agent miscalculate there.
I want to see how Hall, Lazar & Reilly do before grading Sweeney. In theory he hit it out the park. Reality may be a different story.
ODAAT
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didn`t trade the first round pick to get someone, check
Addressed needs of the team, chec
only thing I would have liked to see him do is get rid of Kuraly and/or Wags for a pick or something but whatever
Feel Lazar might be the sleeper of the group, should help get a little respectability back to the 4th line
Strong A- with opportunity to improve that grade if these players work out
Addressed needs of the team, chec
only thing I would have liked to see him do is get rid of Kuraly and/or Wags for a pick or something but whatever
Feel Lazar might be the sleeper of the group, should help get a little respectability back to the 4th line
Strong A- with opportunity to improve that grade if these players work out
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If Sweeny was smart he would have made his offer expire at 12:00 AM so he would still have time if it fell through. Which is probably what he did given the time the deal was announced.
From what the insiders are saying they believe there were better offers on the table but at that point Hall invoked his NTC and said he would only waive for the Bruins, which is his right given that he accepted a 1 year deal only because of the NTC.
Whether Hall was adamant about coming to Boston we don't really know but we can assume from the choices he had Boston was the best one for him at this time.
We agree that the Habs suck no matter how good their record is
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ODAAT
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I gave it an A-
The key is Hall now will be playing behind Marchand and if he has anything in the tank that will cause problems for other teams.
The other 2 players should fit in nicely with the B's system.
They gave up Anders Bjork and 2 second-round picks.
It is all moot if Tuukka and the defense don't come back healthy but if they do come back good things could happen.
The key is Hall now will be playing behind Marchand and if he has anything in the tank that will cause problems for other teams.
The other 2 players should fit in nicely with the B's system.
They gave up Anders Bjork and 2 second-round picks.
It is all moot if Tuukka and the defense don't come back healthy but if they do come back good things could happen.
TSBruins13
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I gave it a B+.
Hall and Lazar came over underpriced, so I am excited about that.
Reilly was probably worth a 4th and we gave a 2nd - so that brought the grade down from an A+ to an A-.
We also didn't address the need for a RW and are now forced to play Debrusk or Ritchie on their off-side, which isn't ideal. This brings it down to the B+ for me.
If Hall returns to even 70% of what he can be - I'll give this an A.
Hall and Lazar came over underpriced, so I am excited about that.
Reilly was probably worth a 4th and we gave a 2nd - so that brought the grade down from an A+ to an A-.
We also didn't address the need for a RW and are now forced to play Debrusk or Ritchie on their off-side, which isn't ideal. This brings it down to the B+ for me.
If Hall returns to even 70% of what he can be - I'll give this an A.
RoccoF14
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When you look simply at the Hall+Lazar trade and compare what we gave up to get them, to what players like Foligno, Bennett, Janmark and Mantha went for, he gets at lest a B+ for that move alone.
The value we got on that trade is insane.
I still don't think this team cracks the Top 5 for Cup contention, however we are significantly better than we we were 72 hrs ago and we didn't mortgage the future to get there.
The value we got on that trade is insane.
I still don't think this team cracks the Top 5 for Cup contention, however we are significantly better than we we were 72 hrs ago and we didn't mortgage the future to get there.
were they more livid about losing the guy with 2 goals or the one with 5?
That's a good question. The answer is the latter. They didn't see why he needed to be included in the deal.
TheReal13Linseman
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I like that this takes some of the pressure off JDB, who I think will relax and play better facing opposing third lines.
i said b+.
wanted rackell and manson or ekholm too.
aleast rackell so smith could go to hus normal 3rd line.
marchand bergeron pasta
hall krejci rackell
debrusk coyle smith
wanted rackell and manson or ekholm too.
aleast rackell so smith could go to hus normal 3rd line.
marchand bergeron pasta
hall krejci rackell
debrusk coyle smith
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