Value of: Anders Lee to LAK

[Raccoon Jesus]

Lee would be outstanding for the Kings and his presence alone would probably be a boon for the PP. I loathe the idea of losing Muzzin and last time we had this discussion I said probably not, but at this point, after signing Brickley, trading for Phaneuf, and apparently never playing Muzzin with Drew again anyway, I could live with it. 27 year old net crashing tip machines don't grow on trees, nor do #2 d-men, it's probably a fair trade even straight up even though LA probably wants futures. Muzzin, Martinez, Phaneuf, Forbort = a lot of salary and redundancy at LHD, to the extent that one of those guys is always playing on the right side anyway (Martinez, most often). In a perfect world we get a good RHD to play 2nd pairing too, but meh.

Sign me up.

 

[seafoam]

you want a 40g scorer and pick 12 for muzzin?

yikes

Lee is one year away from UFA and is looking to cash in. Muzzin is a top pairing,
20+ minute a night, 40 pt. D, with a 4.1M per cap hit for the next two years.

I absolutely understand the ask.

 

[seafoam]

Lee would be outstanding for the Kings and his presence alone would probably be a boon for the PP. I loathe the idea of losing Muzzin and last time we had this discussion I said probably not, but at this point, after signing Brickley, trading for Phaneuf, and apparently never playing Muzzin with Drew again anyway, I could live with it. 27 year old net crashing tip machines don't grow on trees, nor do #2 d-men, it's probably a fair trade even straight up even though LA probably wants futures. Muzzin, Martinez, Phaneuf, Forbort = a lot of salary and redundancy at LHD, to the extent that one of those guys is always playing on the right side anyway (Martinez, most often). In a perfect world we get a good RHD to play 2nd pairing too, but meh.

Sign me up.

We could include Scott Mayfield in a deal as well.

Big RHD that is signed for <2M per for the next 5 years with upside to be a #4, but is currently a bottom pairing guy. Plays with snarl too.

With a good coach in a better system, I think he can hit that upside, but like I said, not there yet.

Adam Pelech is signed to a similar deal, but I’d rather hold onto him, but I’m not Lou Lamoriello.

 

[Halla]

Lee is one year away from UFA and is looking to cash in. Muzzin is a top pairing,
20+ minute a night, 40 pt. D, with a 4.1M per cap hit for the next two years.

I absolutely understand the ask.

Lee has 1 less year then Muzzin. not like 1 guy is a ufa and the other has 4 years.

2 years of muzzin isnt worth 1 year of lee + dobson/veleno/smith

 

[Halla]

A 40 point Defenseman with an extra year + another D: YES. Muzzin as UFA would command 1st +. But it seems Blake might not be trading no one, so who know.

1st + sure.

Lee + 12OA for Muzzin + depth dman/3rd rd pick? way too much

 

[BelovedIsles]

Is Muzzin truly a number 2 on most teams?

 

[go4hockey]

We could include Scott Mayfield in a deal as well.

Big RHD that is signed for <2M per for the next 5 years with upside to be a #4, but is currently a bottom pairing guy. Plays with snarl too.

With a good coach in a better system, I think he can hit that upside, but like I said, not there yet.

Adam Pelech is signed to a similar deal, but I’d rather hold onto him, but I’m not Lou Lamoriello.

Mayfield is a 7/8 guy in LA so that’s not adding anything useful. He may continue to grow givin the opportunity but at this point he wouldn’t break into the top 6 in LA. Either way I am against trading Muzzen for Lee anyways.

 

[go4hockey]

Is Muzzin truly a number 2 on most teams?

To me yes he is or is a stud #3 for those that argue against him being a 2. With some of the defenses i have seen in the league he would be #1 on some teams.

 

[BelovedIsles]

To me yes he is or is a stud #3 for those that argue against him being a 2. With some of the defenses i have seen in the league he would be #1 on some teams.

Fair enough.

Is he injury prone?

 

[Kingspiracy]

Fair enough.

Is he injury prone?

No, not really. He had back issues as a prospect i think, since then he has been pretty durable

 

[KingCanadain1976]

20 games in 6 seasons is hardly injury prone

 

[KingsHockey24]

Is Muzzin truly a number 2 on most teams?

If people consider Brian Dumoulin as a #2D then he sure as hell is.

 

[Klaus3154]

I must have missed them. He has said a few times that he wants to re sign in LA.

Kypreos just stated today how he is going for the biggest deal possible today and won’t give Kings any discount. It is said that he is looking for 10.5-11 million per year. I am sure he wants the Kings to pay that but sounds like he will leave to the highest bidder

 

[Kingspiracy]

Kypreos just stated today how he is going for the biggest deal possible today and won’t give Kings any discount. It is said that he is looking for 10.5-11 million per year. I am sure he wants the Kings to pay that but sounds like he will leave to the highest bidder

I think its posturing. LA will pay 10 -11m, but i guess we'll see.

 

[member 88115]

Kypreos just stated today how he is going for the biggest deal possible today and won’t give Kings any discount. It is said that he is looking for 10.5-11 million per year. I am sure he wants the Kings to pay that but sounds like he will leave to the highest bidder

LA will give him more than Kopi, that sounds about right

 

[evanreynolds1116]

Is Muzzin truly a number 2 on most teams?

Well if he is a #2 on the best defensive team in the NHL... the answer is probably yes. I would be open to Muzzin for Lee but the Kings would have some moves to make after this upcoming season with Lee's and Doughty's new contract. Kings have to trade D for Offense. Lee is better than any UFA option and we need to get rid of some salary in a trade if we are going to be acquiring a legit 1st line LW for Kopi which he needs badly.

 

[boredmale]

Well if he is a #2 on the best defensive team in the NHL... the answer is probably yes. I would be open to Muzzin for Lee but the Kings would have some moves to make after this upcoming season with Lee's and Doughty's new contract. Kings have to trade D for Offense. Lee is better than any UFA option and we need to get rid of some salary in a trade if we are going to be acquiring a legit 1st line LW for Kopi which he needs badly.

My 2 cents is if the Kings want a LW, they should trade for Nelson who has been misused on the Islanders playing 3rd line center. From an Islander POV I think his salary could be better used on a legit Center who can play on our 3rd line who is good at faceoffs and defensively

 

[BelovedIsles]

My 2 cents is if the Kings want a LW, they should trade for Nelson who has been misused on the Islanders playing 3rd line center. From an Islander POV I think his salary could be better used on a legit Center who can play on our 3rd line who is good at faceoffs and defensively

We'll have to add a lot more to Nelson.

 

[boredmale]

We'll have to add a lot more to Nelson.

I am just speaking in general, I can see the Islanders trading Nelson if they get a fair return so they can use his salary somewhere else

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Doughty costs Barzal
Muzzin costs Pulock

Islander fans wont like it.

 

[CREW99AW]

I am just speaking in general, I can see the Islanders trading Nelson if they get a fair return so they can use his salary somewhere else

I was surprised to read Snow passed up a Nelson trade this past season. I realize it is hard to judge based on the slim bit of info Friedman reported: some team pushed hard for Nelson with the isles nixing the deal.

But , Nelson was a difficult signing during his last contract negotiations and has not done much on his show me deal.

 

[evanreynolds1116]

Doughty costs Barzal
Muzzin costs Pulock

Islander fans wont like it.

Oh come on, Muzzin for Lee + a little something at most and I'm a Kings fan. We NEED someone like Lee playing 1st line LW w/ Kopi and Brown.

 

[tony d]

Lee for Muzzin makes sense to me.

 

[CREW99AW]

Oh come on, Muzzin for Lee + a little something at most and I'm a Kings fan. We NEED someone like Lee playing 1st line LW w/ Kopi and Brown.

Oh,was he serious with that nonsense? I thought he was joking

Just like LA's dollars are being kept to try and extend Dpughty,NYI's $ are being kept for Tavares and neither 21 yr old Barzal or 23/24 yr old Pulock will be moved for 1-2 yr rentals.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

To me, Lee is simply like every other Islanders LW that plays with Tavares. Once they leave, you see how terrible they actually are.