Confirmed Trade: [ANA/NSH] Korbinian Holzer for Matt Irwin and 2022 6th round pick

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[Mustard]

Why nashville. Irwin is horrific but apparently so is Holzer.

 

[Rec T]

Irwin 'and' a pick? Preds got fleeced there...

 

[bumperkisser]

that pick is already a win. GIMME THAT 7TH ROUNDER

 

[TK]

Poile adds a pick to get a Dman that is actually somehow WORSE than Matt Irwin. Shrewd move old man.

 

[triggrman]

Poile adds a pick to get a Dman that is actually somehow WORSE than Matt Irwin. Shrewd move old man.

There's no way he's worse than Irwin.

 

[TK]

There's no way he's worse than Irwin.

As awful as he is, Matt Irwin isn't the single worst defenseman in the NHL, but he is close. Holzer is worse along with a very, very small number of others.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

The pick is a 2022 (not a typo) 6th rounder.

 

[triggrman]

As awful as he is, Matt Irwin isn't the single worst defenseman in the NHL, but he is close. Holzer is worse along with a very, very small number of others.

I got to see this to believe it.

I think Viktor Arvidsson is a better defenesman than Irwin.

 

[Arthuros]

I got to see this to believe it.

I think Viktor Arvidsson is a better defenesman than Irwin.

Trust us, you don't wanna see it.

 

[RedWillys]

Poile/Hynes/Someone must have really, really hated Irwin

 

[Mikka The Grey]

It's a nothing trade. Nothing gained and certainly nothing lost.

 

[Kalv]

Holzer is better than some haters here are implying. But Eakins loves him and overplays, that leads to mistakes. If Preds are gonna play Holzer under 16 mins he`ll be fine - physical and can skate.

 

[cheesymc]

Ducks just wanted a 6th round pick, so I guess they actually "won" one trade today. Holzer will bring some fake toughness for Nashville but get ready for bad penalties and a few horrible turnovers a game.

6th round pick, hooray! Great job Murray, that's gonna help us rebuild quicker.

 

[TK]

Holzer is better than some haters here are implying. But Eakins loves him and overplays, that leads to mistakes. If Preds are gonna play Holzer under 16 mins he`ll be fine - physical and can skate.

While each time he's on the ice might seem like an eternity, Holzer has only played more than 16 minutes 4 times since December 10th. His overall TOI average is 16:14 per game, 14:29 at evens. I dont think 15 fewer seconds will magically make him serviceable.

 

[Gh24]

If he can beat two of Hamhuis/Weber/Tinordi for regular spot on 3rd pair then it's a good trade. Otherwise it's a whatever deal.

Odd thread, tho. Two fanbases arguing who's (ex-) player is worse. I'm kinda curious to find out.

 

[GreatBear]

I have watched him and I don't think that Holzer is the worst defenseman in the NHL. He is acceptable when he plays a very limited, simple game. Because he is right handed and the Ducks had only extremely limited choices for the right side he got in more games than he probably should have this year, and he has gotten into trouble trying to do more than he should. He will make a number of really dumb plays each game.

 

[d0rkwing]

that pick is already a win. GIMME THAT 7TH ROUNDER

Got our Kaše replacement!

 

[HanSolo]

How Holzer managed to return not one but two assets is completely baffling to me.

 

[Soundgarden]

How Holzer managed to return not one but two assets is completely baffling to me.

Irwin is hardly an asset, we had to package a 6th to get rid of him.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Irwin is hardly an asset, we had to package a 6th to get rid of him.

Pretty much. The 2022 6th is the most valuable asset in this entire trade.

 

[BigFatCat999]

One fan: My guy is shit!

Other fan: No! My guy is shit!

One fan: My guy is shittier!

Other fan: No! My guy is shittier!

One fan: My guy is so shitty he can fertilize gardens!

Other fan: My guy is so shitty he melts in water and smells worse than his hockey bag!

 

[HanSolo]

Irwin is hardly an asset, we had to package a 6th to get rid of him.

Fair enough but as far as I'm concerned even if Irwin is terrible this deal is just a free pick for Anaheim

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Fair enough but as far as I'm concerned even if Irwin is terrible this deal is just a free pick for Anaheim

They are both below average (at best) and fill the same 6/7 role for the rest of the year on a team headed no where, definitely feels like a free pick.

Holzer was a guy that I always thought was surprisingly effective when he came over from Toronto, he could sit out for a long period of time as a 7th guy and then come in and play pretty steady. Definitely seems like a solid pro who was well respected in Anaheim. I really don't think the lack of NHL time last year did him any favors, as it has seemed as though the game had passed him by this season, struggles pretty bad when forced to make anything beyond the most basic play.

 

[Duck Off]

This is stupid. Holzer isn’t as bad as some are saying. He’s not good, but the frustration is that Eakins plays him over better players, even though they aren’t very good either. Keep him as the 7th D who plays 30 games a year and you’ll be fine. Clearly Nashville sees him as a slight upgrade to Irwin, which is probably accurate. I’m glad to get an asset for him, but come on fellow Duck fans; a 6th rounder several years from now is nothing to brag about.