All-star team selected by NHL coaches (1927 to 1941)

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    For the seasons 1926-27 to 1929-30, NHL coaches were polled for their all-stars of the season to create all-star teams. I've posted the 1926-27 and 1927-28 teams previously. The 1929-30 teams are new to me and I don't think they have been posted here. (thanks to Pam Coburn for the article).

    I think we're just missing the full 1928-29 team.

    1926-27

    From the Brooklyn Daily Eagle, April 3, 1927, p. 41

    1926-27 all star teams - Newspapers.com

    No vote totals for this year, unfortunately. And the newspaper article indicates that several writers' votes were included along with the coaches.

    First team
    LW George Hay, Chicago
    C Frank Fredrickson, Detroit/Boston
    RW Bill Cook, Rangers
    D King Clancy, Ottawa
    D Duncan Munro, Maroons
    G George Hainsworth, Canadiens

    Second team
    LW Aurel Joliat, Canadiens
    C Frank Boucher, Rangers
    RW Howie Morenz, Canadiens
    D Ivan Johnson, Rangers
    D Herb Gardiner, Canadiens
    G John Ross Roach, Toronto

    Third team
    LW Dick Irvin, Chicago
    C Bill Carson, Toronto
    RW Hooley Smith, Ottawa
    D Eddie Shore, Boston
    D George Boucher, Ottawa
    G Roy Worters, Pittsburgh

    The coaches also voted Bill Cook as the most valuable player, with 9 of 10 selecting Cook and one picking Bill Carson.

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    1927-28

    From the New York Evening Post, Saturday, March 24, p. 15

    https://fultonhistory.com/newspaper 11/New York Evening Post/New York NY Evening Post 1928 Grayscale/New York NY Evening Post 1928 Grayscale - 2255.pdf

    Just the coaches voted on this one. Cecil Hart, Eddie Gerard, Dave Gill, Connie Smythe, Shorty Green, Art Ross, Lester Patrick, Jack Adams, Odie Cleghorn, and Hugh Lehman.

    The second team was composed using the second place votes only, not first place votes. Full voting results were in the article.

    First team
    LW George Hay, Detroit
    C Howie Morenz, Canadiens
    RW Bill Cook, Rangers
    LD Ivan Johnson, Rangers
    RD Eddie Shore, Boston
    G Roy Worters, Pittsburgh

    Second team
    LW Aurel Joliat, Canadiens
    C Frank Boucher, Rangers
    RW Harry Oliver, Boston
    LD Herb Gardiner, Canadiens
    RD King Clancy, Ottawa
    G George Hainsworth, Canadiens

    Full voting

    LW
    George Hay 4-2
    Aurel Joliat 1-4

    Howie Morenz 3-0
    Hec Kilrea 2-2
    Percy Galbraith 0-1

    C
    Howie Morenz 7-0
    Frank Nighbor 3-0
    Frank Boucher 0-3
    Frank Fredrickson 0-2
    Hib Milks 0-1.5
    Normie Himes 0-1
    Bill Carson 0-0.5

    RW
    Bill Cook 7-3
    Hooley Smith 2-1
    Harry Oliver 0-3
    Hec Kilrea 1-0
    Aurel Joliat 0-1
    Jimmy Ward 0-1
    Art Gagne 0-1

    LD
    Ivan Johnson 4-1
    Herb Gardiner 2-3

    King Clancy 3-0
    Reg Noble 1-0
    Art Duncan 0-1.5
    Hap Day 0-1
    Eddie Shore 0-1
    Duncan Munro 0-1
    Lionel Hitchman 0-0.5

    RD
    Eddie Shore 9-0
    King Clancy 0-3

    Reg Noble 1-0
    Ivan Johnson 0-3
    Hap Day 0-1
    Red Dutton 0-1
    Sylvio Mantha 0-1

    G
    Roy Worters 7-1
    George Hainsworth 1-4

    Alec Connell 1-3
    John Ross Roach 1-1

    1928-29

    "TORONTO, March 21 - Writing in the Globe, Bert Perry says: "Only one member of the Maple Leafs - Irvin Bailey - has been selected for the 1928-29 all-star N.H.L. team. The selection is made by the votes of the various managers in the circuit, no manager being able to vote for a player of his own team. The result of the polling shows Worters of the Americans in goal; Clancy, Ottawa, and Shore, Boston, defense; Bailey, Toronto, right wing; Morenz, Canadiens, center and Joliet, Canadiens, left wing. The highest possible vote a player can get is nine, and Clancy got 8, Worters and Shore seven each, and the rest five each. Other players and votes were as follows: Hainsworth, 2; Thompson, Bruins, 1; Mantha 5; Conacher 1; Bill Cook, 3; Oliver, 1; Ward, 1; Boucher, Rangers, 1; Stewart, 1; Hay, 2; Kilrea, 2. The Hart Trophy award for the Most Valuable Player in the league is likely to go to Roy Worters."

    22 Mar 1929, 11 - The Ottawa Citizen at Newspapers.com

    Goal:

    1. Roy Worters 7
    2. George Hainsworth 2
    3. Tiny Thompson 1
    Note: All votes accounted for.

    Defense:

    1. King Clancy 8
    2. Eddie Shore 7
    3. Sylvio Mantha 5
    4. Lionel Conacher 1
    Note: These should add up to 20, but there is an extra vote

    Left Wing:

    1. Aurel Joliet 5
    2. George Hay 2
    3. Hec Kilrea 2
    Note: There is 1 missing vote

    Center:

    1. Howie Morenz 5
    2. Frank Boucher 1
    3. Nels Stewart 1
    Note: There are 3 missing votes

    Right Wing:

    1. Ace Bailey 5
    2. Bill Cook 3
    3. Harry Oliver 1
    4. Jimmy Ward 1
    Note: All votes accounted for.

    1929-30

    From the Boston Traveller, April 2, 1930

    See the attached PDF for the article (thanks Pam Coburn!)

    First team
    LW Hec Kilrea, Ottawa
    C Cooney Weiland, Boston
    RW Dit Clapper, Boston
    LD Lionel Hitchman, Boston
    RD Eddie Shore, Boston
    G Tiny Thompson, Boston

    Second team
    LW Howie Morenz, Canadiens
    C Nels Stewart, Maroons
    RW Bill Cook, Rangers
    LD Sylvio Mantha, Canadiens
    RD King Clancy, Ottawa
    G Roy Worters, Americans

    Partial voting results

    LW
    Hec Kilrea (5-x)
    Howie Morenz (1-4)

    Aurel Joliat (2-x)
    Dutch Gainor (1-x)
    Nels Steward (1-x)

    C
    Cooney Weiland (4-1)
    Nels Stewart (2-3)


    RW
    Dit Clapper (x-x), 1 more first team vote than Cook
    Bill Cook (x-x), several second team votes
    Frank Finnegan (2-2)
    Hooley Smith (1-2)

    G
    Tiny Thompson (7)
    Roy Worters (1)


    LD
    Lionel Hitchman (6-3)
    Sylvio Mantha (x-x)


    RD
    Eddie Shore (4-3)
    King Clancy (2-3)

    Sylvio Mantha, Lionel Hitchman, Ivan Johnson received votes.
     
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    Howie Morenz.... 2nd team LW?
     
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    Since it's easier for me than it is for you to quote my old post, I'll repost here. Unfortunately, you need a newspapers.com subscription to read the linked article:

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    I found the missing GM-voted All-Star team for 1928-29!

    "TORONTO, March 21 - Writing in the Globe, Bert Perry says: "Only one member of the Maple Leafs - Irvin Bailey - has been selected for the 1928-29 all-star N.H.L. team. The selection is made by the votes of the various managers in the circuit, no manager being able to vote for a player of his own team. The result of the polling shows Worters of the Americans in goal; Clancy, Ottawa, and Shore, Boston, defense; Bailey, Toronto, right wing; Morenz, Canadiens, center and Joliet, Canadiens, left wing. The highest possible vote a player can get is nine, and Clancy got 8, Worters and Shore seven each, and the rest five each. Other players and votes were as follows: Hainsworth, 2; Thompson, Bruins, 1; Mantha 5; Conacher 1; Bill Cook, 3; Oliver, 1; Ward, 1; Boucher, Rangers, 1; Stewart, 1; Hay, 2; Kilrea, 2. The Hart Trophy award for the Most Valuable Player in the league is likely to go to Roy Worters."

    22 Mar 1929, 11 - The Ottawa Citizen at Newspapers.com

    Note that Worters did, in fact, go on to win the Hart Trophy.

    To organize the data in a easier fashion:

    Goal:

    1. Roy Worters 7
    2. George Hainsworth 2
    3. Tiny Thompson 1
    Note: All votes accounted for.

    Defense:

    1. King Clancy 8
    2. Eddie Shore 7
    3. Sylvio Mantha 5
    4. Lionel Conacher 1
    Note: These should add up to 20, but there is an extra vote

    Left Wing:

    1. Aurel Joliet 5
    2. George Hay 2
    3. Hec Kilrea 2
    Note: There is 1 missing vote

    Center:

    1. Howie Morenz 5
    2. Frank Boucher 1
    3. Nels Stewart 1
    Note: There are 3 missing votes

    Right Wing:

    1. Ace Bailey 5
    2. Bill Cook 3
    3. Harry Oliver 1
    4. Jimmy Ward 1
    Note: All votes accounted for.
     
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    I doubt that I have it. I remember looking these quite a while years ago. I will check.

    Edit. Oh it has been already found
     
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    Good idea. I've added it to the Resources & Source Material sticky.
     
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    And with split votes in 1928 as well.
     
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    And 2nd team RW for 1926-27.

    From the 1926-27 article: "Lepine does not usually start the game, but he plays center for the most part and Morenz moves over to replace Arthur Gagne at right wing."
     
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    I've added this to the OP.
     
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    In an NYT column on 2/20/30, John Kieran interviewed* Ching Johnson and brought up the all-star team question:

    "Leaving the Rangers out of it, Ching, who are the best men on the other league teams in your opinion. Who is the best forward?"

    "Well, I think I'd pick Nels Stewart."

    "Count him as a centre. How about the wingmen?"

    "On the wings? Lemme see. Well, I guess Dutch Gainor of the Bruins would do. He's awful tricky and deceptive. Fast, too."

    "How about Howie Morenz?"

    "He's different. Howie depends entirely on his speed. He doesn't stick-handle at all. You can figure Howie, but you can't figure a fellow like Gainor. You never know whether he's going to the right or left, or over or under you."

    "What about Aurel Joliat?"

    "Great. He's tricky, too. But if I had to pick two wingmen, I'd take Gainor and another of those Boston fellows, say Cooney Weiland or Clapper. That Clapper, he's a bird."

    "At centre you'd pick Nels Stewart?"

    "Nobody else. Of course they've been shifting centres to the wing and back to centre again in the last year or so, but it doesn't make much difference. Stewart and Morenz and fellows like that play either position, but I guess it doesn't matter. They're all forwards."



    FWIW, he picked Lionel Hitchman as his #1 defenseman, saying he made Eddie Shore's life a lot easier. Shore was his other D pick, with mentions of Clancy, Mantha, Conacher. His goalie pick was Tiny Thompson.

    * Kieran did these editorial "interviews" regularly, and they always sound like made-up dialogues to me. Perhaps he actually did talk to the players, but the intent of the column was to tell a good story.
     
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    Jim Hendy compiled all-star teams from the league's coaches and published the resulting all-star teams in Macleans Magazine from 1934-35 to 1940-41, and then again in 1945-46.

    The article from 1934-35 indicates the same teams were chosen in earlier seasons, but I haven't been able to find them in the Macleans archive. They may have been published elsewhere.

    Results are below in this thread. I have included point totals where specified, but not all articles included the point totals. I would also recommend reading the articles, as Hendy comments on all the players who were selected.
     
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    1932-33

    The team was selected by the 9 coaches of the National Hockey League and published by Jim Hendy, editor of the National Hockey Guide.

    This information was retrieved from the Toledo News-Bee, March 17, 1933. There are no point totals listed for these teams, just the teams. Thanks to @BM67 for the link!

    The Toledo News-Bee - Google News Archive Search

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers

    First team (max 27 points)

    G -- Charlie Gardiner
    RD -- Eddie Shore, 27
    LD -- Ivan Johnson, Rangers
    LW -- Larry Northcott, Maroons
    C -- Howie Morenz, Canadiens
    RW -- Bill Cook, Rangers, 27

    Second team

    G -- Roy Worters, Americans
    RD -- King Clancy, Toronto
    LD -- Lionel Conacher, Maroons
    LW -- Busher Jackson, Toronto
    C -- Frank Boucher, Rangers
    RW -- Charlie Conacher, Toronto

    NHL All-Star 1st Team
    G: John Ross Roach
    D: Ching Johnson*
    D: Eddie Shore*
    C: Frank Boucher*
    LW: Baldy Northcott
    RW: Bill Cook*
    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G: Charlie Gardiner*
    D: King Clancy*
    D: Lionel Conacher*
    C: Howie Morenz*
    LW: Busher Jackson*
    RW: Charlie Conacher*

    1933-34

    The team was selected by the 9 coaches of the National Hockey League and published by Jim Hendy, editor of the National Hockey Guide.

    This information was retrieved from the Morning Call, March 20, 1934. Thanks to @Sanf for sending it to me!

    First team (max 27 points)
    G -- Charlie Gardiner, 26
    RD -- Earl Seibert, Rangers, 19
    LD -- Lionel Conacher, Maroons, 18
    LW -- Busher Jackson, Toronto, 25
    C -- Frank Boucher, Rangers, 16
    RW -- Charlie Conacher, Toronto, 22

    Second team
    G -- Roy Worters, Americans, 9
    RD -- Eddie Shore, Boston, 10
    LD -- King Clancy, Toronto, 15
    LW -- Aurel Joliat, Canadiens, 12
    C -- Joe Primeau, Toronto, 14
    RW -- Larry Aurie, Detroit, 9

    Third Line

    LW -- Paul Thompson, Chicago, 9
    C -- Marty Barry, Boston, 9
    RW -- Bill Cook, Rangers, 8

    Utility Player -- Hooley Smith, Maroons, 12

    Also receiving votes
    Goaltenders: Tiny Thompson, Boston, 4, Wilf Cude, Detroit, 4, George Hainsworth, Canadiens, 2
    Defensemen: Ivan Johnson, Rangers, 7, Ebbie Goodfellow, Detroit, 6, Red Horner, Toronto, 3, Marvin Wentworth, Maroons, 3, Doug Young, Detroit, 2, Sylvio Mantha, Canadiens, 2, Ralph Bowman, Ottawa, 2
    Centres: Hooley Smith, Maroons, 3, Nels Stewart, Boston, 3, Howie Morenz, Canadiens, 2, Cooney Weiland, Detroit, 2, Himes, Americans, 2, Pit Lepine, Canadiens, 1
    Right wings: Jimmy Ward, Maroons, 5, Dit Clapper, Boston, 3, Mush March, Chicago, 2, Johnny Gottselig, Chicago, 2, Robinson, Maroons, 1, Cooney Weiland, Detroit, 1, Wilder Larochelle, Canadiens, 1
    Left wings: Herbie Lewis, Detroit, 4, Cecil Dillon, Rangers, 2, Hooley Smith, Maroons, 2
    Utility: Ebbie Goodfellow, Detroit, 6, Dit Clapper, Boston, 3, Herbie Lewis, Detroit, 3, King Clancy, Toronto, 3

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers

    NHL All-Star 1st Team
    G: Charlie Gardiner*
    D: King Clancy*
    D: Lionel Conacher*
    C: Frank Boucher*
    LW: Busher Jackson*
    RW: Charlie Conacher*

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G: Roy Worters*
    D: Ching Johnson*
    D: Eddie Shore*
    C: Joe Primeau*
    LW: Aurele Joliat*
    RW: Bill Cook*


    1934-35

    We Nominate | Maclean's | April 15 1935

    First team (max 27 points)

    G -- Tiny Thompson, Boston, 14
    D -- Eddie Shore, Boston, 26
    D -- Art Coulter, Rangers, 18
    LW -- Busher Jackson, Toronto, 27
    C -- Frank Boucher, Rangers, 25
    RW -- Charlie Conacher, Toronto, 27

    Second team

    G -- Roy Worters, Americans, 11
    D -- Hap Day, Toronto, 9
    D -- Earl Seibert, Rangers, 12
    LW -- Aurel Joliat, Canadiens, 7
    C -- Russ Blinco, Maroons, 8
    RW -- Larry Aurie, Detroit, 10

    Third Line

    LW -- Paul Thompson, Chicago, 6
    C -- Cooney Weiland, Detroit, 6
    RW -- Dit Clapper, Boston, 9

    Utility Player -- Ebbie Goodfellow, Detroit, 12
    Rookie of the year -- Sweeney Schriner, Americans

    Also receiving votes

    Goaltenders: L. Chabot, Chicago; W. Cude, Canadiens; A. Connell, Maroons.
    Defensemen: M. Wentworth, Maroons; F. Clancy, Toronto; R. Homer, Toronto; M. Burke, Chicago.
    Centres: J. Primeau, Toronto; S. Howe, Detroit; A. Chapman, Americans; P. Lepine, Canadiens; H. Morenz, Chicago; E. Goodfellow, Detroit.
    Right wings: W. Cook, Rangers; E. Robinson, Maroons.
    Left wings: J. Gottselig, Chicago; M. Barry, Boston; H. Lewis, Detroit; D. Schriner, Americans; S. Howe, Detroit.
    Utility: R. J. Smith, Maroons; H. Kilrea, Toronto; F. Finnigan, Toronto; J. Gottselig, Chicago; C. Dillon, Rangers.
    Outstanding rookies: W. Miller. Maroons; R. “Pep” Kelly, Toronto; N. Crutchfield, Canadiens.

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers

    NHL All-Star 1st Team
    G: Lorne Chabot
    D: Earl Seibert*
    D: Eddie Shore*
    C: Frank Boucher*
    LW: Busher Jackson*
    RW: Charlie Conacher*

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G: Tiny Thompson*
    D: Art Coulter*
    D: Cy Wentworth
    C: Cooney Weiland*
    LW: Aurele Joliat*
    RW: Dit Clapper*
     
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    1935-36

    We Nominate . . . | Maclean's | April 1st, 1936

    First team (max 27 points)

    G -- Tiny Thompson, Boston, 24
    D -- Eddie Shore, Boston, 24
    D -- Babe Siebert, Boston, 16
    LW -- Sweeney Schriner, Americans, 19
    C – Hooley Smith, Maroons, 16
    RW -- Charlie Conacher, Toronto, 21

    Second team
    G -- Wilf Cude, Canadiens, 12
    D -- Earl Seibert, Chicago, 9
    D -- Ivan Johnson, Rangers, 6
    LW -- Paul Thompson, Chicago, 12
    C -- Art Chapman, Americans, 10
    RW -- Cecil Dillon, Rangers, 10

    Third Line
    LW -- Larry Northcott, Maroons, 6
    C -- Doc Romnes, Chicago, 8
    RW -- Larry Aurie, Detroit, 9
    Utility Player -- Ebbie Goodfellow, Detroit, 6
    Rookie of the year -- Mike Karakas, Chicago

    Also receiving votes
    Goaltenders: M. Karakas, Chicago; G. Hainsworth, Toronto.
    Defensemen: L. Conacher, Maroons; M. Wentworth, Maroons; E. Good fellow, Detroit; D. Young, Detroit; C. Day, Toronto; S. Evans, Maroons; A. Coulter, Rangers; W. Buswell, Canadiens.
    Centres: F. Boucher, Rangers; W. Thoms, Toronto; R. Weiland, Boston; M. Barry, Detroit; L. Patrick, Rangers; S. Howe, Detroit.
    Right Wings: A. Clapper, Boston; W. Cook, Rangers; J. Ward, Maroons; E. Robinson, Maroons; L. Goldsworthy, Canadiens: H. March, Chicago.
    Left Wings: C. Dillon, Rangers; A. Joliat, Canadiens; H. Lewis, Detroit; J. Gottselig, Chicago; G. Mantha, Canadiens.
    Utility: F. Boll, Toronto; W. Thoms, Toronto; M. Barry, Detroit; S. Howe, Detroit; A. Blair, Toronto; W. Cook, Rangers.
    Outstanding Rookie: N. Metz, Toronto.

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers
    NHL All-Star 1st Team

    G: Tiny Thompson*
    D: Eddie Shore*
    D: Babe Siebert*
    C: Hooley Smith*
    LW: Sweeney Schriner*
    RW: Charlie Conacher*

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G: Wilf Cude
    D: Ebbie Goodfellow*
    D: Earl Seibert*
    C: Bill Thoms
    LW: Paul Thompson
    RW: Cecil Dillon
     
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    1936-37

    WE NOMINATE . . | Maclean's | April 1st 1937

    First team (max 24 points)

    G -- Wilf Cude, Canadiens, 13
    D -- Babe Siebert, Canadiens, 24
    D -- Ebbie Goodfellow, Detroit, 23
    LW -- Busher Jackson, Toronto, 22
    C -- Marty Barry, Detroit, 24
    RW -- Larry Aurie, Detroit, 24

    Second team
    G -- Normie Smith, Detroit, 10
    D -- Earl Seibert, Chicago, 14
    D -- Lionel Conacher, Maroons, 13
    LW -- Herbie Lewis, Detroit, 10
    C -- Art Chapman, Americans, 13
    RW -- Jimmy Ward, Maroons, 8

    Third Line
    LW -- Sweeney Schriner, Americans, 8
    C -- Syl Apps, Toronto, 4
    RW -- Cecil Dillon, Rangers, 5
    Utility Player – Hooley Smith, Maroons, 6, and Syd Howe, Detroit, 6
    Rookie of the year -- Syl Apps, Toronto

    Also receiving votes
    Goaltenders: “Tiny” Thompson, Boston; Mike Karakas, Chicago; Dave Kerr, Rangers.
    Defensemen: Jack Portland, Boston; “Bucko” McDonald. Detroit; “Red” Homer. Toronto.
    Centres: Howie Morenz, Canadiens; Bill Cowley, Boston; Neil Colville, Rangers; “Cooney” Weiland, Boston; Pete Lepine, Canadiens.
    Right Wings: Johnny Gagnon, Canadiens; “Dit” Clapper, Boston; “Mush” March, Chicago; Earl Robinson, Maroons.
    Left Wings: Aurel Joliat, Canadiens; Larry Northcott, Maroons; Lynn Patrick, Rangers.
    Utility: Georges Mantha, Canadiens; Ebbie Goodfellow, Detroit; Larry Northcott, Maroons; Cecil Dillon, Rangers.
    Outstanding Rookie: George Brown, Canadiens; “Turk” Broda, Toronto.

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers
    NHL All-Star 1st Team
    G:
    Normie Smith
    D: Ebbie Goodfellow*
    D: Babe Siebert*
    C: Marty Barry*
    LW: Busher Jackson*
    RW: Larry Aurie

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G:
    Wilf Cude
    D: Lionel Conacher*
    D: Earl Seibert*
    C: Art Chapman
    LW: Sweeney Schriner*
    RW: Cecil Dillon
     
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    1937-38

    WE NOMINATE.. | Maclean's | APRIL 1 1938

    First team (3-2-1, max 24 points)

    G -- Tiny Thompson, Boston, 24
    RD -- Eddie Shore, Boston, 16-3**
    LD -- Babe Siebert, Canadiens, 18
    LW -- Paul Thompson, Chicago, 11
    C -- Syl Apps, Toronto, 15-2**
    RW -- Gordie Drillon, Toronto, 18

    Second team
    G -- Dave Kerr, Rangers, 8, and Wilf Cude, Canadiens, 8
    RD -- Earl Seibert, Chicago, 11-5**
    LD -- Art Coulter, Rangers, 3-10**
    LW -- Toe Blake, Canadiens, 10
    C -- Bill Cowley, Boston, 14
    RW -- Cecil Dillon, Rangers, 13-5**

    Third Line
    LW -- Busher Jackson, Toronto, 9
    C -- Marty Barry, Detroit, 8
    RW -- Charlie Sands, Boston, 10

    Utility Player – Bob Davidson, Toronto, 6, or Cooney Weiland, Boston, 6
    Rookie of the year --Chamberlain, Toronto.

    **points obtained at another position

    Also receiving votes
    Goal Tenders: None.
    Defensemen: D. Young, Detroit; E. Heller. Rangers; W. Buswell, Canadiens; S. Evans, Maroons; R. Horner, Toronto; J. Fowler, Toronto.
    Centres: N. Colville, Rangers; C. Smith. Rangers; E. Romnes, Chicago; L. Patrick, Rangers; P. Drouin, Canadiens; P. Haynes, Canadiens.
    Right Wings: E. Wiseman, Americans; H. March, Chicago; R. Lorrain, Canadiens; J. Gagnon. Canadiens; R. Bauer. Boston.
    Left Wings: D. Schriner, Americans; L. Patiick, Rangers; G. Mantha, Canadiens;
    C. Dillon. Rangers; S. Apps, Toronto.
    Utility: W. Pratt, Rangers; R. J. Smith, Americans; A. Clapper, Boston.
    Outstanding Rookie: C. Smith, Rangers; E. Wares, Detroit; C. Dahlstrom, Chicago;
    D. Smith, Maroons.

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers

    NHL All-Star 1st Team
    G:
    Tiny Thompson*
    D: Eddie Shore*
    D: Babe Siebert*
    C: Bill Cowley*
    LW: Paul Thompson
    RW: Cecil Dillon
    RW: Gordie Drillon*

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G:
    Dave Kerr
    D: Art Coulter*
    D: Earl Seibert*
    C: Syl Apps*
    LW: Toe Blake*
     
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    1938-39

    We Nominate | Maclean's | APRIL 1, 1939

    First team (3-2-1, max 21 points)

    G – Earl Robertson, Americans, 17
    D -- Eddie Shore, Boston, 17
    D – Art Coulter, Rangers, 10
    LW – Toe Blake, Canadiens, 16
    C -- Syl Apps, Toronto, 20
    RW -- Gordie Drillon, Toronto, 20

    Second team
    G – Tiny Thompson, Detroit, 8, and Frank Brimsek, Boston, 8
    D -- Earl Seibert, Chicago, 9
    D – Dit Clapper, Boston, 8
    LW – Alex Shibicky, Rangers, 10
    C – Neil Colville, Rangers, 10
    RW – Bobby Bauer, Boston, 11

    Third Line
    LW – Tom Anderson, Americans, 7, and Johnny Gottselig, Chicago, 7
    C – Milt Schmidt, Boston, 8
    RW – Bryan Hextall, Rangers, 3, and Mac Colville, Rangers, 3
    Utility Player – Flash Hollett, Boston, 6
    Rookie of the year –Frank Brimsek, Boston

    Also receiving votes
    Goal Tenders: D. Kerr, Rangers.Defensemen: A. C. Siebert, Canadiens; J. Portland, Boston; J. Crawford, Boston; W. Buswell, Canadiens; A. Wiebe, Chicago; E. Heller, Rangers; E. Goodfellpw, Detroit.Centres: N. Stewart, Americans; W. Cowley, Boston; C. Smith, Rangers; J. Gottselig, Chicago.
    Right Wings: L. Carr, Americans; J. Gagnon, Canadiens; A. Shibicky, Rangers; W. Dumart, Boston.
    Left Wings; W. Dumart. Boston; P. Thompson, Chicago; M. Schmidt, Boston.
    Utility: D. Schriner, Americans; M. Barry, Detroit; S. Howe, Detroit; R. Davidson, Toronto; N. Stewart, Americans.
    Outstanding Rookie: R. Conacher, Boston; G. Giesebrecht, Detroit.

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers


    NHL All-Star 1st Team
    G:
    Frank Brimsek*
    D: Dit Clapper*
    D: Eddie Shore*
    C: Syl Apps*
    LW: Toe Blake*
    RW: Gordie Drillon*

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G:
    Earl Robertson
    D: Art Coulter*
    D: Earl Seibert*
    C: Neil Colville*
    LW: Johnny Gottselig
    RW: Bobby Bauer*
     
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    1939-40

    We Nominate | Maclean's | APRIL 1 1940

    First team (3-2-1, max 21 points)

    G – Dave Kerr, Rangers, 19
    D – Art Coulter, Rangers, 17
    D – Ebbie Goodfellow, Detroit, 16 and Dit Clapper, Boston, 16
    LW – Toe Blake, Canadiens, 16
    C – Milt Schmidt, Boston, 19
    RW – Bryan Hextall, Rangers, 15

    Second team
    G – Frank Brimsek, Boston, 12
    D -- Earl Seibert, Chicago, 9
    D – Ott Heller, 6
    LW – Woody Dumart, Boston, 14
    C – Neil Colville, Rangers, 9
    RW – Gordie Drillon, Toronto, 13

    Third Line
    LW – Roy Conacher, Boston, 4
    C – Syl Apps, Toronto, 7
    RW – Bobby Bauer, Boston, 11
    Utility Player – Flash Hollett, Boston, 9
    Rookie of the year –Wally Stanowski, Toronto, 9 and Kilby MacDonald, Rangers, 9

    Also receiving votes
    Goal: C. Thompson, Detroit; E. Robertson, Americans.
    Defense: J. Crawford, Boston; C. Conacher, Americans; R. Kampman, Toronto; D. Smith, Boston.
    Centre: W. Cowley, Boston; M. Armstrong, Americans; C. Smith, Rangers.
    Right Wing: M. Colville, Rangers; C. Sands, Canadiens.
    Left Wing: S. Apps, Toronto; B. Hextall, Rangers; D. Schriner, Toronto; H. Cain, Boston.
    Utility: P. Watson. Rangers; R. Davidson, Toronto; R. J. Smith, Americans; G.Mantha, Canadiens.
    Outstanding Rookie: C. Brown, Detroit.

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers
    NHL All-Star 1st Team
    G:
    Dave Kerr
    D: Dit Clapper*
    D: Ebbie Goodfellow*
    C: Milt Schmidt*
    LW: Toe Blake*
    RW: Bryan Hextall*

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G:
    Frank Brimsek*
    D: Art Coulter*
    D: Earl Seibert*
    C: Neil Colville*
    LW: Woody Dumart*
    RW: Bobby Bauer*
     
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    1940-41

    We Nominate | Maclean's | APRIL 1, 1941

    First team (3-2-1, max 21 points)

    G – Turk Broda, Toronto, 18
    D – Dit Clapper, Boston, 21
    D – Wally Stanowski, Toronto, 13
    LW – Sweeney Schriner, Toronto, 16
    C – Bill Cowley, Boston, 18
    RW – Gordie Drillon, Toronto, 16

    Second team
    G – Frank Brimsek, Boston, 13
    D -- Earl Seibert, Chicago, 11
    D – Jack Stewart, Detroit, 5
    LW – Woody Dumart, Boston, 14
    C – Syl Apps, Toronto, 15
    RW – Robert Bauer, Boston, 14

    Third Line
    LW – Lynn Patrick, Rangers, 5
    C – Milt Schmidt, Boston, 4, and Neil Colville, Rangers, 4
    RW – Bryan Hextall, Rangers, 11

    Utility Player – Syd Howe, 3
    Rookie of the year –John Quilty, Montreal, 6

    Also receiving votes
    Goal Tenders: J. Mowers. Detroit.
    Defensemen: J. Orlando, Detroit; J. Crawford, Boston; A. Coulter, Rangers; W. Field, Americans; E. Goodfellow, Detroit; E. Heller, Rangers; P. Egan. Americans. Centres: P. Watson. Rangers.
    Right Wings: M. Colville, Rangers.
    Left Wings: S. Howe, Detroit; R. Conacher, Boston, H. Blake, Canadiens; G. Allen, Chicago.

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers


    NHL All-Star 1st Team
    G:
    Turk Broda*
    D: Dit Clapper*
    D: Wally Stanowski
    C: Bill Cowley*
    LW: Sweeney Schriner*
    RW: Bryan Hextall*

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G:
    Frank Brimsek*
    D: Ott Heller
    D: Earl Seibert*
    C: Syl Apps*
    LW: Woody Dumart*
    RW: Bobby Bauer*
     
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    1943-44

    The Montreal Gazette - Google News Archive Search

    First team (max 18 points)
    G -- Bill Durnan, Montreal, 18
    D -- Earl Seibert, Chicago, 13
    D -- Babe Pratt, Toronto, 17
    LW -- Doug Bentley, Chicago, 17
    C -- Bill Cowley, Boston, 17
    RW -- Lorne Carr, Toronto, 17

    Second team

    G -- Paul Bibeault, Toronto
    D -- Dit Clapper, Boston
    D -- Butch Bouchard, Montreal
    LW -- Herb Cain, Boston
    C -- Elmer Lach, Montreal
    RW -- Bill Mosienko, Chicago

    Third line
    LW -- Carl Liscombe, Detroit
    C -- Clint Smith, Chicago
    RW -- Joe Carveth, Detroit

    Outstanding Rookie -- Gus Bodnar, Toronto

    Also receiving votes:

    G -- Mike Karakas, Chicago
    D -- Flash Hollett, Detroit, Jack Crawford, Boston, Bill Quackenbush, Detroit
    LW -- Syd Howe, Detroit
    C -- Phil Watson, Montreal, Syd Howe, Detroit
    RW -- Maurice Richard, Montreal, Bryan Hextall, New York


    1944-45

    The Windsor Daily Star - Google News Archive Search

    First team (max 18 points)

    G -- Bill Durnan, Montreal
    D -- Butch Bouchard, Montreal
    D -- Flash Hollett, Detroit
    LW -- Toe Blake, Montreal
    C -- Elmer Lach, Montreal
    RW -- Maurice Richard, Montreal

    Second team

    G -- Mike Karakas, Chicago
    D -- Babe Pratt, Toronto
    D -- Dit Clapper, Boston
    LW -- Herb Cain, Boston
    C -- Bill Cowley, Boston
    RW -- Bill Mosienko, Chicago

    Third line

    Ab DeMarco, New York
    Ted Kennedy, Toronto
    Syd Howe, Detroit

    Utility Player-- Phil Watson, New York
    Outstanding Rookie -- Ken Smith, Boston

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers

    NHL All-Star 1st Team

    G: Bill Durnan*
    D: Butch Bouchard*
    D: Flash Hollett
    C: Elmer Lach*
    LW: Toe Blake*
    RW: Maurice Richard*

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team

    G: Mike Karakas
    D: Glen Harmon
    D: Babe Pratt*
    C: Bill Cowley*
    LW: Syd Howe*
    RW: Bill Mosienko*


    1945-46

    WE NOMINATE... | Maclean's | MARCH 15, 1946

    First team (3-2-1, max 18 points)

    G – Harry Lumley, Detroit, 11, and Bill Durnan, Montreal, 11
    D – Jack Stewart, Detroit, 14
    D – Butch Bouchard, Montreal, 13
    LW – Doug Bentley, Chicago, 13
    C – Max Bentley, Chicago, 16
    RW – Bill Mosienko, Chicago, 15

    Second team
    G – Harry Lumley, Detroit, 11, and Bill Durnan, Montreal, 11
    D – Jack Crawford, Boston, 10
    D – Neil Colville, New York, 5 and Babe Pratt, Toronto, 5
    LW – Gaye Stewart, Toronto, 11
    C – Elmer Lach, Montreal, 12
    RW – Maurice Richard, Montreal, 11

    Third Line
    LW – Toe Blake, Montreal, 5
    C – Milt Schmidt, Boston, 3
    RW – Red Hamill, Chicago, 11

    Utility Player – Milt Schmidt, Boston, 2
    Rookie of the year –Edgar Laprade, New York, 3, and George Gee, Chicago, 3

    Other players receiving votes are not listed.

    Official NHL All-Star team for comparison, selected by the writers

    NHL All-Star 1st Team
    G:
    Bill Durnan*
    D: Butch Bouchard*
    D: Jack Crawford
    C: Max Bentley*
    LW: Gaye Stewart
    RW: Maurice Richard*

    NHL All-Star 2nd Team
    G:
    Frank Brimsek*
    D: Ken Reardon*
    D: Jack Stewart*
    C: Elmer Lach*
    LW: Toe Blake*
    RW: Bill Mosienko*
     
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    Where did the coaches and the writers differ?

    1934-35
    The writers rated Lorne Chabot the #1 goaltender, but the coaches had him 3rd at highest.
    The writers rated Earl Seibert above Art Coulter, and the coaches had Coulter above Seibert.
    Russ Blinco and Larry Aurie make the coaches 2nd team ahead of Cooney Weiland and Dit Clapper

    1935-36
    The first team for the writers and coaches was identical.
    The coaches rated Ivan Johnson above Ebbie Goodfellow on the 2nd team defence.
    The coaches had Art Chapman (2nd team) and Doc Romnes (3rd team) ahead of the writers’ 2nd team centre Bill Thoms

    1936-37

    The writers had Normie Smith as their # 1 goaltender, and the coaches preferred Wilf Cude.
    The coaches had Herbie Lewis and Jimmy Ward on the 2nd team ahead of the writers’ Sweeney Schriner and Cecil Dillon

    1937-38

    The coaches rated Syl Apps 1st and the writers preferred Bill Cowley.
    When you count votes for all positions, Gordie Drillon and Cecil Dillon finished tied in the coaches’ voting AND the writers’ voting.

    1938-39

    The coaches had Earl Robertson as their #1 goalie and the writers had Frank Brimsek #1
    Art Coulter was on the coaches’ 1st team ahead of Dit Clapper, who made the writers’ first team.
    The coaches rated Alex Shibicky as their 2nd LW ahead of Johnny Gottselig, the writers’ choice.

    1939-40

    Art Coulter makes the coaches’ first team and the writers’ second team AGAIN
    The coaches had Gordie Drillon at 2nd team RW and the writers had Bobby Bauer

    1940-41
    The coaches had Gordie Drillon at 1st team RW and Bobby Bauer #2. The writers had Bryan Hextall #1 and Bauer #2.

    1945-46
    Harry Lumley didn’t make the writers’ teams but tied with Bill Durnan for #1 goalie as per the coaches.
    Jack Stewart was only on the writers’ second team, but led all D in votes from the coaches.
    Ken Reardon was a 2nd team all star as per the writers but didn’t place on the coaches’ team – Neil Colville and Babe Pratt were ahead of him.
    Doug Bentley was 1st team LW according to the coaches and the writers preferred Gaye Stewart.
    The coaches also had Chicago’s Bill Mosienko as 1st team RW, ahead of the writers’ choice Maurice Richard.

    The player who had the biggest difference between the writers and coaches was clearly Art Coulter. The coaches had Art Coulter as a 3 time first team all star and a 1 time second team all star. The writers had him as a 4 time second team all star.

    Also, here are the results of the Utility Player category, a category for which we have no real comparison in the rest of hockey history.
    1934-35: Ebbie Goodfellow
    1935-36: Ebbie Goodfellow
    1936-37: Hooley Smith and Syd Howe
    1937-38: Bob Davidson and Cooney Weiland
    1938-39: Flash Hollett
    1939-40: Flash Hollett
    1940-41: Syd Howe
    1945-46: Milt Schmidt
     
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    Very interesting information. Looks like the coaches were much less susceptible to GAA bias than the writers of that period, which makes me inclined to put more weighting on these results, at least when it comes to goaltending:

    Goaltending Awards Comparison:
    YearCoaches 1stCoaches 2ndASTGAA Leader
    1935ThompsonWortersChabotChabot
    1936ThompsonCudeThompsonThompson
    1937CudeN. SmithN. SmithN. Smith
    1938ThompsonKerr/CudeThompsonThompson
    1939RobertsonThompson/BrimsekBrimsekBrimsek
    1940KerrBrimsekKerrKerr
    1941BrodaBrimsekBrodaBroda
    1946Lumley/DurnanLumley/DurnanDurnanDurnan
     
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    Jack Stewart being the top-rated Defenseman by the coaches in 1946 while his 5th place finish in Hart voting and 2nd Team finish in All-Star voting seemed to contradict each other is the exact sort of thing I spent way too long looking for a few weeks ago. Thanks!
     
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    1932-33 (March 17)
    The Toledo News-Bee - Google News Archive Search

    1942-43 (March 24)
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AsNAAAAIBAJ&dq=cowley all-star&pg=3281,664771
    Link doesn't work, so only a date to use as a guide for a search. I used Cowley in the search as Hendy didn't return anything.

    1943-44 (March 28)
    The Montreal Gazette - Google News Archive Search

    1944-45 (March 16)
    The Windsor Daily Star - Google News Archive Search
     
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