Player Discussion Alexander Khokhlachev - part III

[Mainehockey33]

The previous thread was closed so I figured I’d make a new one instead of throwing it into the prospect thread because who knows, we might have use for it next year.



Khoko now has 42 points in 48 games in the KHL this year. He could make competition for third line center much more interesting next year.

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[Mainehockey33]

 

[TCB]

The previous thread was closed so I figured I’d make a new one instead of throwing it into the prospect thread because who knows, we might have use for it next year.



Khoko now has 42 points in 48 games in the KHL this year. He could make competition for third line center much more interesting next year.

Why not 2nd line RW this yr??

Can he come over at anytime?

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

In b4 "Koko sucks, soft, bust, trade him for peanuts"

I would welcome a re-addition of Khokhlachev over here to see what he can do under Cassidy. Worst case, he comes over, sucks and goes back to the KHL or you trade his rights or whatever.

 

[LSCII]

Why not 2nd line RW this yr??

Can he come over at anytime?

The real question is why would he come back? After the way the organization handled him during his first stint, I question his interest level in a return to Boston, especially now that there are so many younger guys pushing for roles.

 

[BruinDust]

The support of Koko here is absolutely comical.

2nd line RW now over Spooner?

3rd line C next year?

He's got 13 goals in 42 games in the KHL. That would translate into what, 4-5 at the NHL level in the same amount of games.

He also has to pass through waivers in order to play for the Bruins as he has already played in games in the KHL this season.

If the Russian Chris Bourque is smart, he'll stay in Russia. It's not like there will be a big amount of opportunity in Boston.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

The real question is why would he come back? After the way the organization handled him during his first stint, I question his interest level in a return to Boston, especially now that there are so many younger guys pushing for roles.

Wasn't there a report that he had some interest in returning? The biggest thing with Koko was Julien. He played what, 10 games at around 9 minutes? However, he was very good under Cassidy in Providence. I could see him returning now that Julien is out and Cassidy, a coach he's comfortable with, is at the helm.

 

[BruinDust]

Wasn't there a report that he had some interest in returning? The biggest thing with Koko was Julien. He played what, 10 games at around 9 minutes? However, he was very good under Cassidy in Providence. I could see him returning now that Julien is out and Cassidy, a coach he's comfortable with, is at the helm.

The biggest thing with Koko was Koko, that and the level of competition at the NHL level.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

The biggest thing with Koko was Koko, that and the level of competition at the NHL level.

He played 9 games (1 game off from what I said above) at 9 minutes average TOI...Not even close to getting an actual look. I'm not saying he comes over and is the next Panarin, but if you can add a potential talent back for nothing, why wouldn't you entertain it?

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

If Koko could cut it in the NHL, he'd be in the NHL. Floaters can thrive in the KHL...they're DOA over here.

Fact is he has been lapped by Heinen, Bjork, Debrusk, Spooner, Pasta already at the NHL level, and really the prospects in Providence are ahead of him too

 

[TP]

Koko? I thought he was part of the Russian Ice Capades by now.

 

[patty59]

Koko ripping up the russian beer league

 

[GloryDaze4877]

He played 9 games (1 game off from what I said above) at 9 minutes average TOI...Not even close to getting an actual look. I'm not saying he comes over and is the next Panarin, but if you can add a potential talent back for nothing, why wouldn't you entertain it?

The Bruins (or any NHL team) should be looking at any/all avenues for improving their roster. Unfortunately, some people, who have an axe to grind, would rather just throw rocks then look at it objectively.

If you can get him over here for short money, and take a look at what kind of player he is NOW, why wouldn’t you?

 

[BruinDust]

The Bruins (or any NHL team) should be looking at any/all avenues for improving their roster. Unfortunately, some people, who have an axe to grind, would rather just throw rocks then look at it objectively.

If you can get him over here for short money, and take a look at what kind of player he is NOW, why wouldn’t you?

Some of just don't see anything in Koko that warrants gushing over, or being impressed by.

What kind of contract would you give him?

There is only one way I bring over Koko next year. That's on a 1-year, two-way contract that is less than 1 million a season. And with the understanding that if he doesn't break camp with the Boston Bruins, he'll go down to Providence and continue to work on his game.

None of this "I don't make the Boston team I will return to the KHL" crap.

If he wouldn't agree to the above offer, he can stay there.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

The Bruins (or any NHL team) should be looking at any/all avenues for improving their roster. Unfortunately, some people, who have an axe to grind, would rather just throw rocks then look at it objectively.

If you can get him over here for short money, and take a look at what kind of player he is NOW, why wouldn’t you?

It's a no-brainer. He's producing in one of the best leagues in the world, some would argue it's 2nd to the NHL. That has some value. Players have left here after struggling, not getting a chance, etc., gone to the KHL, produced and developed, and come back to have careers. Evgenii Dadonov for example this season. He was less productive at the AHL level than Koko was and did very little in his brief NHL time his first stint. He went there, it clicked, and now he's back producing.

I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar, but to just write him off is a bit much. I don't take 9 NHL games @ 9 minutes TOI, under the wrong coach, at 21-22 years old as a good basis to say what the player is. He's been a productive player at every level. OHL, AHL, and the KHL. It's not going to hurt to see, if you can get him back.

 

[BruinDust]

It's a no-brainer. He's producing in one of the best leagues in the world, some would argue it's 2nd to the NHL. That has some value. Players have left here after struggling, not getting a chance, etc., gone to the KHL, produced and developed, and come back to have careers. Evgenii Dadonov for example this season. He was less productive at the AHL level than Koko was and did very little in his brief NHL time his first stint. He went there, it clicked, and now he's back producing.

I'm not saying he's going to be a superstar, but to just write him off is a bit much. I don't take 9 NHL games @ 9 minutes TOI, under the wrong coach, at 21-22 years old as a good basis to say what the player is. He's been a productive player at every level. OHL, AHL, and the KHL. It's not going to hurt to see, if you can get him back.

Very little.

It's only a "no-brainer" if the contract terms and understanding is right.

 

[BruinsFanSince94]

Some of just don't see anything in Koko that warrants gushing over, or being impressed by.

Unless you were watching him play in the AHL, or are watching him play in the KHL, how could you really see anything (positive or negative)? He played 9 NHL games.

 

[NDiesel]

The Bruins (or any NHL team) should be looking at any/all avenues for improving their roster. Unfortunately, some people, who have an axe to grind, would rather just throw rocks then look at it objectively.

If you can get him over here for short money, and take a look at what kind of player he is NOW, why wouldn’t you?

I don't get it either. There are some pretty short-sighted posts in this thread already.

The way I see it you bring him over to camp and one of the following happens:

1) He looks like he still can't cut it and goes back to the KHL
2) Same as above but he shows he's dedicated to playing in Boston and plays in Providence
3) He impresses and you essentially add a free asset

Absolutely no risk in seeing what he looks like.

 

[BruinDust]

Unless you were watching him play in the AHL, or are watching him play in the KHL, how could you really see anything (positive or negative)? He played 9 NHL games.

I'm not impressed by that little dangle in the video. I'm not impressed by his KHL numbers, because well, they are in the KHL.

 

[LSCII]

Too many Julien acolytes to ever have what could be considered even close to a rational discussion about Koko here. Kind of similar to the Spooner threads, IMO.

 

[NDiesel]

I'm not impressed by that little dangle in the video. I'm not impressed by his KHL numbers, because well, they are in the KHL.

Have you watched him play in the KHL? Because unless you have I'm not sure how you can definitively say he's still not good enough to play in the NHL.

 

[BruinDust]

I don't get it either. There are some pretty short-sighted posts in this thread already.

The way I see it you bring him over to camp and one of the following happens:

1) He looks like he still can't cut it and goes back to the KHL
2) Same as above but he shows he's dedicated to playing in Boston and plays in Providence
3) He impresses and you essentially add a free asset

Absolutely no risk in seeing what he looks like.

This is a business, there is always a risk.

Honestly what kind of message does that send the prospects already here? We'll bring in this guy from Russia, with the understanding that if things don't go his way, he'll pack his bags and go home?

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

The Bruins (or any NHL team) should be looking at any/all avenues for improving their roster. Unfortunately, some people, who have an axe to grind, would rather just throw rocks then look at it objectively.

If you can get him over here for short money, and take a look at what kind of player he is NOW, why wouldn’t you?

Heinen, Debrusk, Bjork, Pasta, JFK, Frederic, Senyshyn

 

[DKH]

i would like to see Khokhlachev play under Cassidy

He is 24 though that is really old in hockey and gymnastics

 

[BruinDust]

Have you watched him play in the KHL? Because unless you have I'm not sure how you can definitively say he's still not good enough to play in the NHL.

We'll the vast majority of KHL players aren't good enough to play in the NHL, hence why they are in the KHL.

So there is that.