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The day AN scores a hat trick AND makes a defensive play like this, then we’ll let the comps begin. Otherwise, I won’t hear any of it.
Rockford is exactly where Nylander should be. He should play his way up to Chicago.At 23 and 24 Sharp was a minor leaguer. When called up for injuries his play was middling. It clicked for him at 25.
Someone here wants to see Sharp type play. I’d say 23 year old Nylander is ahead of 23 year old Sharp.
It likely, for me that would be fab and along the lines of what could be achievableIf Nylander puts up 18G 22A over 75GP next year, would that be enough to satisfy Nylander critics on this forum?
He can score 25pts in 75GP and I'd be happy if he shows consistent effort, smarter plays in the offensive zone (not just getting in the zone, taking a turn, and look, and passing the puck away, or turning it over), and shows strong two way play. If he fixes those issues, he will score more than 25pts, and could potentially be a 50pt player. But there is major doubt that he can fix those things, but as a Hawk fan, I'm hopeful.If Nylander puts up 18G 22A over 75GP next year, would that be enough to satisfy Nylander critics on this forum?
That's how I see it as well. Judging a player by number of points scored can be deceiving either way. It is how he plays that counts and there is a lot about his game that Nylander needs to rectify.He can score 25pts in 75GP and I'd be happy if he shows consistent effort, smarter plays in the offensive zone (not just getting in the zone, taking a turn, and look, and passing the puck away, or turning it over), and shows strong two way play. If he fixes those issues, he will score more than 25pts, and could potentially be a 50pt player. But there is major doubt that he can fix those things, but as a Hawk fan, I'm hopeful.
The day AN scores a hat trick AND makes a defensive play like this, then we’ll let the comps begin. Otherwise, I won’t hear any of it.
its like he doesn't even care anymore....
and it shows in his point production...
This is a silly thing to say if you haven't watched him play.
He’s pat foleyNot saying you're wrong, Leafer, but you have this weird vendetta against Nylander and nobody should trust your opinion of him.
They're not even comparable situations.Toews gets a pass for missing a year and looking like total f***ing dogshit most nights, because of....whatever obscure illness he claims he had. Yet, Nylander, who had a tangible reason for missing all of last season(you know, a serious knee injury, that required surgery), doesn't even get half a season before we throw in the towel. Holy f*** is this place insufferable.
They're not even comparable situations.
Toews has years of NHL success under his belt, while Nylander has one year of maybe being a 3rd liner.
I was a fan of the deal because it seemed like a worthwhile gamble. It didn't work. Moving along then.
I'm much more willing to give that slack to Dach at the NHL level than Nylander at the AHL level.The one that should be given more slack, and more time to figure things out, isn't Toews. That's the point here. You can't say "oh, he took a year off, he needs some time to get back up to speed" and then trash Nylander less than 20 games back from a serious knee injury, surgery, and an entire season missed... There's just no f***ing logic behind it. Maybe Nylander is a total bust, but the time to decide that isn't RIGHT NOW... It's the same shit with Dach, and the constant criticism and people drawing conclusions about his ceiling. It's almost like, dealing with an injury, surgery, and extended time off, is difficult for young players to overcome 20 games into a season. Weird.
Puljujarvi would have been the correct target.Joki for a young forward was the right idea at the time imo, especially since they had Boqvist and Mitchell coming up quickly, but Alex was the wrong return imo, Joki had shown way more at the NHL level than Alex did at the time and he had already spent a few years in Rochester with avg results
Puljujarvi would have been the correct target.