News Article: Agents Poll: Dubas voted the best GM to get client a good deal from

LeafsNation75

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Yes he got schooled but that is over now. Most of us would have crushed him on here had he taken Paul's 9M 8 year deal the summer before. In retrospect it would have been a solid deal. But that's life. Every deal looks horrible at start and as long as player performs and CAP goes up it is fine. Now with cOVID probably 2-3 years of issues.
This is also easy to say with the benefit of hindsight but in July 2017 when Lou Lamoriello was still the Leafs GM, he failed at getting William Nylander to sign an extension since he was eligible to do that and 1 year away from being an RFA. If that happens who knows how things go for Dubas with Matthews and Marner contracts.
 

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This is also easy to say with the benefit of hindsight but in July 2017 when Lou Lamoriello was still the Leafs GM, he failed at getting William Nylander to sign an extension since he was eligible to do that and 1 year away from being an RFA. If that happens who knows how things go for Dubas with Matthews and Marner contracts.
Yes true. But Lou probably assessed it as a bogus negotiation and just backed off given demands. TO is a tough market for Lou to works his magic. We can't blame da players as they all know TO is the NHL's money bank. No other team even comes close to da cash flow of our Leafs. So we will always have a difficult time in a CAP world. And every GM TO has ever had will tell you privately that it creates issues on almost every negotiation. Unless you are like a Ballard who frankly did not give a cr*p. He hoarded da cash himself. It is why we spend 110M+ in real cash with a 81.5M CAP. We have to do whatever we can do play on legal edges of CBA. Our Leafs could spend 200M on payroll and be fine. But of course no one else in league could. So this issue will always be with us.
 

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This is also easy to say with the benefit of hindsight but in July 2017 when Lou Lamoriello was still the Leafs GM, he failed at getting William Nylander to sign an extension since he was eligible to do that and 1 year away from being an RFA. If that happens who knows how things go for Dubas with Matthews and Marner contracts.
Yes it would have been great had Lou Lam signed Nylander a year prior and not left it to Dubas to mess up which led to the other issues down the road. Signing Matthews before Marner is still the greatest error in that whole contract mess.
 

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Yes it would have been great had Lou Lam signed Nylander a year prior and not left it to Dubas to mess up which led to the other issues down the road. Signing Matthews before Marner is still the greatest error in that whole contract mess.

I think Dubas either lost his resolve during the Nylander holdout or was told by his higher-ups to not let that happen again. As far as I'm concerned Dubas' role as GM requires being confrontational in contract negotiations. Both sides should be a bit unhappy about the results of the negotiations. It's an adversarial business relationship. You don't even need to like one another in this relationship, just capable of making some kind of mutually beneficial deal. He seemed to be embracing that with the Nylander standoff but completely capitulated after that. I bet we'll find out one day that Dubas was told by Shanahan to get the deals done and not suffer another holdout. Offer sheets that are unmatchable is pure fantasy. No offer sheet wouldn't have exceeded the eventual $11.6 M AAV deal.
 

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Yes it would have been great had Lou Lam signed Nylander a year prior and not left it to Dubas to mess up which led to the other issues down the road. Signing Matthews before Marner is still the greatest error in that whole contract mess.
What about the fact that Marner waited to negotiate his new contract after the 2018-19 season.

Dubas willing to be patient with Marner’s decision to negotiate after season

Darren Ferris, the agent for Marner, has been adamant there will be no serious negotiations with the Leafs on a new contract until the season is over, and that did not shift on Tuesday.

“There is no change from our position,” Ferris told the Toronto Sun. “The whole purpose is for Mitch to focus on the year, on the opportunities (the Leafs) have to make the playoffs. I want his mind clear.

“There is lots of time for a contract. There is no reason to sign so quickly and so early.”
 

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How many agents have Auston Matthews, John Tavares, William Nylander and Mitch Marner quality players to negotiate for? I crap on Dubas enough but we have an enviable roster of elite players and they cost money. We aren't going out and making Milan Lucic, Kris Russell, Loui Eriksson and friends rich.
exactly. thats how u cripple a franchise. by givin those mid teir guys max money.
 
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