DitClapper
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Proposal: Actual Value of: Johnny Boychuk
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Not sure I know very little about the majority of the players on the other teams.I only watch the Bruins but I don't want to trade Boychuck,right now with Chara's advancing age and Seids a bit of a question mark in regards to his injury,Johnny just might be the glue that will hold the D together.
He has more value to the Bruins as a player than anything they would get back in a trade for him as an impending UFA.
CanadianBruinsFan
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A second round pick and a decent wing prospect on a team that's deep with prospects. I also think he's hit his ceiling so if they've decided they're going forward without him next year he should be dealt.
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If the other team has plans to extend him hes probably worth a first and something... if we were trying to get him at the deadline we all know it would cost us our first.
Unfortunately we have to trade someone and everyone knows it. This early in the summar no one is offering their top price. Hopefully chiarelli can win this game of chicken and if boychuk eventually is the sacrafice hopefully we can get a top 15 pick in next years draft for him
Unfortunately we have to trade someone and everyone knows it. This early in the summar no one is offering their top price. Hopefully chiarelli can win this game of chicken and if boychuk eventually is the sacrafice hopefully we can get a top 15 pick in next years draft for him
Can't stand this line of thought. We want to win the Cup, NOW. If you deal Boychuk for prospects/futures, you are SEVERELY decreasing your chance to win a Stanley Cup. Contending teams don't trade impending UFAs just to get something for them, that's what rebuilding teams do. If we confirm that Boychuk is going to try to get his fair market value and walk after this season, you STILL keep him and let him play out the season to give yourself the best chance at a Stanley Cup.
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I know they know it, I just get so annoyed when I see people post that, lol. I shouldn't, but I do. It's so ignorant.
DitClapper
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No doubt. But let's say the offer on the table is Bobby Ryan. That WOULD increase our chance for the cup IMO. That's one of the few players I'd give Boychuk up in a heartbeat for.
Defense can always look like this going into the year:
Chara-Hamilton
Seidenberg-McQuaid
Miller-Krug
Then, at deadline day, you make a move for a top 4:
Chara-Hamilton
Gleason*/Methot*-Seidenberg
McQuaid/Miller-Krug
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July 1, 2015 Boychuk will no longer be a Bruin (unless traded sooner). The only way he re-signs is if he takes a sweetheart deal (4m) or another significant piece is moved for cap room.
It's hard to put a price on him because he's gonna be UFA. I think you can get a late first for him at the deadline
It's hard to put a price on him because he's gonna be UFA. I think you can get a late first for him at the deadline
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I think Boychuk is severely undervalued by other teams fans.
I'd say he would be highly regarded by other teams GMs.
However as someone else posted we should not consider trading Boychuk.
If we lose him to FA next season then so be it, but we need him for our cup run this season.
I'd say he would be highly regarded by other teams GMs.
However as someone else posted we should not consider trading Boychuk.
If we lose him to FA next season then so be it, but we need him for our cup run this season.
He definitely would bring a first at the deadline, maybe more than that.
The only way he is back in 2015 is if either Chara or Seidenberg is not. I don't see any chance of that happening.
Personally I think Boychuck is traded this summer. In return I expect either a young cost controlled RW, who is a 2nd/3rd linerr now, but has potential to be more, OR a young cost controlled defenseman who comes in and replaces Johnny immediately (Think Klefbom, maybe Marincin)
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Are those guys NHL ready? If Im trading Boychuk for a young cost controlled dman then I want someone who can play reliably right away. However If I trade him it's probably for a young cost controlled wing.
I don't think anybody wants him traded strictly because he's a UFA next year. It's more about PC weighing his options and possibly making the hard choice. I think Boychuk's value would be at it's peak at trade deadline and no way we move him then if we are planning on making a long playoff run. I really don't think we get much for JB right now, it'd be more about cap relief at this point.
We'd absolutely be a weaker team without him.
We'd absolutely be a weaker team without him.
BruinsPortugal
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Agreed.
Trading at the deadline would return the most but makes no sense unless we are getting someone similar (Edler deal?).
I would expect someone like Riley Smith and maybe a pick?
RedeyeRocketeer
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Not sure why anyone is talking about a deadline trade of Boychuk. If he's to be traded, it's before the season to become cap compliant. After that, if Boychuk is on a cap compliant team, he's playing the whole year in Boston barring injury.
As for what he's worth right now, I think a first rounder out of all but 8 (bad) teams is probably pretty realistic. But I'd rather obtain a winger.
As for what he's worth right now, I think a first rounder out of all but 8 (bad) teams is probably pretty realistic. But I'd rather obtain a winger.
Take a breath. The post asks what Boychuk's value would be, not what he should be dealt for.
I think a 2nd and wing prospect from a team like Anaheim is definitely fair value, but I wouldn't do it due to our situation today.
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Wasn't there a thread about this recently? 'Did Jason Garrison set the value for Johnny Boychuk' or something to that regards.
He went for a 2nd but he had a larger cap hit than Johnny and, while he can provide more offense, I still like Boychuk's overall game more.
Trade deadline prices this past year seemed very reasonable - so I'm not so sure about a first rounder. 2nd + prospect seems more accurate.
He went for a 2nd but he had a larger cap hit than Johnny and, while he can provide more offense, I still like Boychuk's overall game more.
Trade deadline prices this past year seemed very reasonable - so I'm not so sure about a first rounder. 2nd + prospect seems more accurate.
Do you think the Bruins window is only one year? I happen to think that they can retool on the fly and be contenders for years to come. Bergeron and Krejci have at least 4 more prime years ( probably more for a heady guy like Bergeron ) and as Chara declines, Hamilton is picking up the slack. Rask is signed for ever. Lucic is the same age as Kevan Miller. If you find no takers for Kelly, getting a middle 6 RW with top 6 upside will make them a better team in years 2, 3, 4 etc...
Brooks Orpik just got 5.5. And Boychuk is better. And the cap is going up. He will get 6. Is giving Boychuk near Bergeron money the best way to use your cap space?
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Not that much unless packaged with other players/prospect. A package consisting of Marchand, Boychuk and a prospect can get us Evander Kane. One way or the other, he has tobe traded since he will be gone for nothing next year and it would be some more terrible asset management by Chia to let it happen.
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