No. Neither is Geno, but Letang's worth more than he's making, so that's cool I guess.
Well for a team with precious few grains of sand left in the hourglass, a 34 year old who has recurring wrist and hernia problems and hasn't done a thing in the playoffs for 3 years running isn't worth $9 million to me, despite scoring at a PPG pace in the regular season. But I don't give a shit about anyone on this roster anymore, to be brutally honest. We could sell off the supporting cast and let the big three decide their fate--either play out their contracts here and retire Penguins or chase the Cup elsewhere--and I don't think anything changes in all practicality. Missing the playoffs entirely versus being out in the 1st round is whatever.
It depends. Like I said, it's a nonsense, vague term to use "worth". Is Skinner worth $9 million? f*** no. Is the face of a franchise who may not be winning scoring titles or propelling their team to the SCF--but sells a buncha jerseys and puts butts in seats--worth $9 million? Probably to an owner. Am I content seeing the team pay such a huge portion of its cap to ever-aging and oft-injured guys who seemingly can't hack it anymore when it matters most? Nah, I don't think that's "worth".
Because all I care about is playoff performances, to be honest. This is no longer a team who can or should be "working through it". Jake's a sidecar. As soon as one or more of the big three move on, whether in retirement or to chase a Cup in a better spot, he's nothing more than a trade asset. Jake's got the defensive attentiveness/effort of Phil Kessel, the temperament to boot, and a fun new bum shoulder that had him hesitant or downright against taking many shots at range, let alone with any real power behind them, all season/playoffs long. He's a problem.
Good Grief ...I like all the other prices..but you got Marino way over valued.
The defense has evolved so much and way to much padding and interference going on in the playoffs mostly...none of the players seem to be worth that price anymore. Well it is mainly because of the massive interference going in the playoffs. Ruining the game and becoming a joke for guys like Connor McDaivid and other great players in the playoffs only.
My issue with Jake is that the player we currently employ is not the player we signed to his deal. He's fallen off a cliff in terms of play and production. He put together the least impressive, most boring PPG campaign I've ever seen. It was predictable from miles away that his production in the regular season would not translate to a playoff atmosphere. Tons of soft points against atrocious teams. For all the drum banging people love to do (not you, just in general) about the Pens winning the division, like that f***ing matters
, the East had 3 of the 4 worst defensive teams in the NHL. 
Dang I see why you have no time to watch a 9 min long videoMy issue with Jake is that the player we currently employ is not the player we signed to his deal. He's fallen off a cliff in terms of play and production. He put together the least impressive, most boring PPG campaign I've ever seen. It was predictable from miles away that his production in the regular season would not translate to a playoff atmosphere. Tons of soft points against atrocious teams. For all the drum banging people love to do (not you, just in general) about the Pens winning the division, like that f***ing matters
No, I would not build around Jake Guentzel. He's a sidecar, a complimentary winger, an "in addition to" piece. By the time this team is any sort of competitive or competent again in the post Sid/Geno era, Jake is likely to be north of 30 by a couple years. The second one or more of the big three decide to move on, whether in retirement or to chase the Cup in a better spot, I'd move Jake to the highest bidder.
In all honesty, and I know this is a sacrilegious and scoring hot take, but I hope Geno's knee forces him to retire next summer. I hope he looks at his career earnings, his injury status over the past few years, the current status of the team, and decides to hang 'em up while he has a bit of gas left in the tank to go home and play in Russia for a couple of years a la Datsyuk. This team's a bedazzled turd floating around the pool. Paper tigers, and have been for a while. They'll skill their way into the playoffs with no real world, actual chance of making any noise in the post season because of how they're coached and how they're built. I'd rather Geno retire and help force this team into a rebuild than watch any more of this bullshit, 1st or 2nd round exits annually while we tread water in mediocrity.
So, in short, no. I'm not attached to anyone on this roster and outside of Letang, and maybe Dumo, I don't really think anyone is "worth" their contract, or really worth a damn. Playoffs are all that matter for a team in our current position. I couldn't give a shit less about how Sullivan coaches in January if he's going to continually torpedo this team come spring. I couldn't give a shit about Sid and Jake (and Rust) posting nice numbers in an awful division during the regular season if they're going to continue their multi-year tradition of ghosting it in the playoffs.
I realize the team won't blow it up until they have to because of the revenue big names generate, but this team's stale, boring, and predictable. I can't wait for the rebuild, personally.
My issue with Jake is that the player we currently employ is not the player we signed to his deal. He's fallen off a cliff in terms of play and production. He put together the least impressive, most boring PPG campaign I've ever seen. It was predictable from miles away that his production in the regular season would not translate to a playoff atmosphere. Tons of soft points against atrocious teams. For all the drum banging people love to do (not you, just in general) about the Pens winning the division, like that f***ing matters
No, I would not build around Jake Guentzel. He's a sidecar, a complimentary winger, an "in addition to" piece. By the time this team is any sort of competitive or competent again in the post Sid/Geno era, Jake is likely to be north of 30 by a couple years. The second one or more of the big three decide to move on, whether in retirement or to chase the Cup in a better spot, I'd move Jake to the highest bidder.
In all honesty, and I know this is a sacrilegious and scoring hot take, but I hope Geno's knee forces him to retire next summer. I hope he looks at his career earnings, his injury status over the past few years, the current status of the team, and decides to hang 'em up while he has a bit of gas left in the tank to go home and play in Russia for a couple of years a la Datsyuk. This team's a bedazzled turd floating around the pool. Paper tigers, and have been for a while. They'll skill their way into the playoffs with no real world, actual chance of making any noise in the post season because of how they're coached and how they're built. I'd rather Geno retire and help force this team into a rebuild than watch any more of this bullshit, 1st or 2nd round exits annually while we tread water in mediocrity.
So, in short, no. I'm not attached to anyone on this roster and outside of Letang, and maybe Dumo, I don't really think anyone is "worth" their contract, or really worth a damn. Playoffs are all that matter for a team in our current position. I couldn't give a shit less about how Sullivan coaches in January if he's going to continually torpedo this team come spring. I couldn't give a shit about Sid and Jake (and Rust) posting nice numbers in an awful division during the regular season if they're going to continue their multi-year tradition of ghosting it in the playoffs.
I realize the team won't blow it up until they have to because of the revenue big names generate, but this team's stale, boring, and predictable. I can't wait for the rebuild, personally.
We've got 5 months of nothing every year for three years running, and likely many more. Time's not the issue, but desire, man!
Again, it's a murky, vague thing in my opinion to ask what a guy is "worth", or how he's valued. Regular season production? Jake's contract is fine. Actual effectiveness, especially in the post season? Nah, he can kick rocks for all I care. He, Sid, and Rust were as big a problem in our loss as Jarry, but nobody wants to confront that uncomfortable truth. Those three have been duds for three years in a row, Rust has been four, and there's nothing to say they'll suddenly turn back into elite production guys--which Rust never was, even at his best, he was a 9pts in 23 games kinda guy.
Eh, I still think it's vague to try and pin "value" or "worth" on a guy. It's not black and white. Is a 1C, PPG guy with defensive ability like Sid worth ~$9 million? Probably. But that player disappears the second the playoffs start for three years running, and between age and injury, I don't expect to ever see Sid at a dominant level again in the post season. Is a 1LW with 35-40g/PPG potential worth $6 million? Sure, no doubt. But again, that player isn't who Jake is as soon as the 1st round starts, and it's been that way since 2018. Is Rust worth his cap hit? In the regular season? Absolutely. Playoffs? Ehhhhh. He's been a ghost on both sides of the puck since 2017, and his best was a mighty 9pts in 23 games--where the timing of his points were far, far more important than the point totals themselves.
