Acquiring Panarin

[2-4 Slashin]

Bored speculation based post here... but.
Since we keep getting brought up as one of the rumored destinations. What could we offer for Panarin that would hurt but still be survivable? Of course this is contingent on him signing a long term deal with us.

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[Ziggy Stardust]

Pearson or Toffoli
Muzzin or Martinez
Kale Clague
Jaret Anderson-Dolan
1st Round Pick

And even then, I’m not sure if that’s enough given the fact that Panarin is 26 and has never scored less than 74 points in three seasons.

 

[Sol]

Don't care what it takes. If Panarin wants LA you get him here. All based on if he agrees to re sign here

 

[member 88115]

Panarin is the type of player LA needs, more than any shooter. Columbus is looking for forwards, they don't want D. So we need a third team to give us good asset on Muzzin and/or Martinez (still hopeful Voynov gets signed).

 

[Fishhead]

I think Panarin is hell bent on testing UFA to choose where he and his wife want to go. That's not to say that he wouldn't re-sign with a team that traded for him, but it's not going to be a certainty. Any offers for him should keep in mind that he's going to be a rental, unless CLB gives other teams permission to discuss an extension (which I don't think they have).

 

[deaderhead28]

Without a extension for Pararin I wouldn't waste any assets in a trade.Great player but to risky of a chance giving up assets without a extension.

 

[Sol]

Without a extension for Pararin I wouldn't waste any assets in a trade.Great player but to risky of a chance giving up assets without a extension.

If Panarin says he will sign, everyone is on the table for the Kings.

 

[KINGS17]

I don't think it would be a good idea for the Kings to acquire Panarin. They make soups, sandwiches, and salads. The Kings are trying to make 7 course meals.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

If it's strictly as a rental, you offer a 2019 first and a F prospect, that 2019 first they are thinking is going to be low, adding in Panarin makes those chances it's low a lot better etc, but a full year to let him enjoy the city, enjoy the lifestyle, I think gives a legup on wanting to re-sign etc, then you look at moving out pieces to make him fit.

 

[YP44]

he will likely want what like $9M a year? So how does LA even fit that in while building depth.

Acquisition cost would be Pearson, 1st plus high end prospect at minimum.

 

[KingCanadain1976]

If Panarin says he will sign, everyone is on the table for the Kings.

I wouldn't put everyone on the table Drew would be a no go same with Kopitar imo Maybe a player or two more but i think u get the idea

 

[KopitarFAN]

he will likely want what like $9M a year? So how does LA even fit that in while building depth.

Acquisition cost would be Pearson, 1st plus high end prospect at minimum.

Yea, I think his deal will be up there with Benn & Kucherov.

 

[YP44]

Columbus's window is closing very fast. Panarin and Bob both look like they will be gone. Two very important pieces and if they go with nothing coming back the team will be screwed.

 

[ibleedkings]

Starts with Vilardi and keeps going and going.

 

[kingsboy11]

You'd have to start with Toffoli and a 1st round pick. After that it gets really tricky. I think the only young guys that are untouchable are Vilardi and Kempe and then I think guys like Kupari, Thomas and JAD are tradeable.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

Columbus starts at Vilardi+, or hangs up the phone.

There’s no way we get Panarin via trade without giving up Vilardi.

 

[KingsFan7824]

I'd send them Toffoli and Pearson. Can't give up too many ELC guys, since you'll need them if you sign Panarin. Although Kempe and Iafallo will need new contracts next year too.

I'd get crazy with it. If Dubinsky agreed, I'll take his bad contract at 100%. I'll take Panarin. Send Toffoli, Pearson, Kempe or Iafallo, and they have to take either Muzzin or Martinez. Or, as was said, trade them to a 3rd team or whatever, otherwise the cap doesn't end up working. Although lets not say Columbus has such a loaded defense that they couldn't use M or M.

However it could be done without the picks or longer term ELC's. Probably couldn't be, but there's not enough space if it can't be.

 

[Butch 19]

Columbus starts at Vilardi+, or hangs up the phone.

There’s no way we get Panarin via trade without giving up Vilardi.

the let Panarin go elsewhere.

do whatever it takes without moving Vilardi.

 

[KingTrouty]

Can we even afford Panarin now? The NHL cap is real. And in before "you do what it takes"

not if it depletes our little depth that we have, and our barely re-stocked prospect pool. Vilardi is a nonstarter in any trade talks, coupled with the contract Panarin is looking for. I dont see how we swing that with the new DD extension/Kovy signing. Panarin will be looking for what, 8M aav?

You wanna talk about "top heavy"...

 

[Little Psycho]

Panarin would be too expensive. Get Panera instead.

 

[YP44]

I'd send them Toffoli and Pearson. Can't give up too many ELC guys, since you'll need them if you sign Panarin. Although Kempe and Iafallo will need new contracts next year too.

I'd get crazy with it. If Dubinsky agreed, I'll take his bad contract at 100%. I'll take Panarin. Send Toffoli, Pearson, Kempe or Iafallo, and they have to take either Muzzin or Martinez. Or, as was said, trade them to a 3rd team or whatever, otherwise the cap doesn't end up working. Although lets not say Columbus has such a loaded defense that they couldn't use M or M.

However it could be done without the picks or longer term ELC's. Probably couldn't be, but there's not enough space if it can't be.

Taking Dubinsky at almost $6M, adding Panarin $6M this year and ~$9.5M next, Doughty increase next adds $4M is alot of next year. That's almost $20M in extra cap hits next year. Moving Toffoli, Pearson and Muzzin/Martinez would free up $12.35M. That is still a big gap

 

[YP44]

Can we even afford Panarin now? The NHL cap is real. And in before "you do what it takes"

not if it depletes our little depth that we have, and our barely re-stocked prospect pool. Vilardi is a nonstarter in any trade talks, coupled with the contract Panarin is looking for. I dont see how we swing that with the new DD extension/Kovy signing. Panarin will be looking for what, 8M aav?

You wanna talk about "top heavy"...

I think he will be at least $9M

 

[2-4 Slashin]

Villardi is the only one I negotiate around but when you get the chance of a Panarin for at least a good 7+ years I might be tempted. But this is what I offer to start:
For a UFA Panarin, I’d offer Toffoli, 2019 2nd and JAD, I’d add a 2020 1st if he resigns.
If he’s resigned by CBJ (very unlikely) or agrees to an extension I’d offer: TT, Pearson, 2019 1st & one of Kupari or JAD.
In a good youth driven system TT & Pearson are good for more 100 points. The problem is would TT or Pearson resign with CBJ? Do we switch out Pearson for a D and does CBJ need any of our D Depth?

Our lineup looks something like this

Kovi-Kopitar-Brown
Panarin-Carter-Villardi
With a bottom six that includes in no special order Iafallo, Amadio, Lewis, Kempe, Thompson, Clifford..... blah blah blah.

Hmmm... Maybe I’ve been reading the main boards too much?

 

[tny760]

Can we even afford Panarin now? The NHL cap is real. And in before "you do what it takes"

not if it depletes our little depth that we have, and our barely re-stocked prospect pool. Vilardi is a nonstarter in any trade talks, coupled with the contract Panarin is looking for. I dont see how we swing that with the new DD extension/Kovy signing. Panarin will be looking for what, 8M aav?

You wanna talk about "top heavy"...

this

we've spent years trying to get a respectable farm after all the draft picks lombardi gave away now people want to ship it off for the new shiny thing?

no thanks guys

 

[Basilisk]

You'd have to start with Toffoli and a 1st round pick. After that it gets really tricky. I think the only young guys that are untouchable are Vilardi and Kempe and then I think guys like Kupari, Thomas and JAD are tradeable.

This.

It'd have to be something like Toffoli, Muzzin, 1st, 2nd, and Kupari. That is, unless they can be Jedi-mind-tricked into taking Brodzinski instead of Kupari. Or Voynov's rights instead of Muzzin. Or Pearson instead of Toffoli. Or 3rd and 4th round picks instead of 1sts and 2nds.