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I'd obviously rather take MacKinnon over Drouin but I don't see how it's starting over
NHL today is based around having center depth. We've been searching for a 2C to play behind Backstrom pretty much since we drafted him... if we somehow ended in a top-5 pick position I'd hope and pray the team takes a center, especially in a draft with so many elite ones to pick from... another LW solves nothing.
True but what if MacKinnon is taken? What do you do?
Ovechkin, Backstrom, Kuznetsov
Forsberg, Ribeiro, Drouin
Brouwer, Johansson, Laich/Wolski
Wilson, Beagle, Hendricks
Isn't too bad.
True but what if MacKinnon is taken? What do you do?
Ovechkin, Backstrom, Kuznetsov
Forsberg, Ribeiro, Drouin
Brouwer, Johansson, Laich/Wolski
Wilson, Beagle, Hendricks
Isn't too bad.
Barkov... Lindholm... Monahan
I think we could highly regret not taking Drouin or MacKinnon, that's all.
Proposal:
To Calgary
Mike Green
Marcus Johansson
1st round pick
To Washington
Jay Bouwmeester
1st round pick
Would they take it? Calgary could be in the contention for a top 3.
I might just drop the picks and see if Calgary would take Green/MoJo for Bouwmeester. But there are other, better defensemen on better deals who I'd target first, way before Bouwmeester
Yeah I agree I just picked them because they have some pieces but most people expect them to tank.
I'd rather the Caps tank and we trade Green for someone better
We finally acquire a 2C, now everyone wants to trade him away and hope the draft provides an answer again.
Have you all forgotten how often draft picks don't achieve what you hope of them? Even top 10 picks. Turris, Hamill, Wilson, Bailey, and Kadri were all centers drafted in the top 10 between 2007-2009. None of those guys are better than even Johansson or Perreault, let alone Ribeiro. And guys like Brayden Schenn and Cody Hodgson still have plenty of promise, but to wait on a guy like that to develop would push us well beyond the primes of Backstrom and Ovechkin. We can't afford to wait until 2016 to compete again.
Ridiculous.
We finally acquire a 2C, now everyone wants to trade him away and hope the draft provides an answer again.
Have you all forgotten how often draft picks don't achieve what you hope of them? Even top 10 picks. Turris, Hamill, Wilson, Bailey, and Kadri were all centers drafted in the top 10 between 2007-2009. None of those guys are better than even Johansson or Perreault, let alone Ribeiro. And guys like Brayden Schenn and Cody Hodgson still have plenty of promise, but to wait on a guy like that to develop would push us well beyond the primes of Backstrom and Ovechkin. We can't afford to wait until 2016 to compete again.
Ridiculous.
Exactly...the notion of trading for draft picks that might help us in 5 years is absurd. You do that when you're forced to do it only...we're not there.
Barkov is Finnish.
I'm confused as to what 2C you are talking about. Ribeiro? No one here is talking about trading him away. As far as I can see.
If you do want to move Green. MacKinnon/Drouin likely is going top three. We'll likely have a pick outside of the top 3 even if we completely tank this season. I'm confused as to what you people want, it's either you believe Ribs/Backstrom is 1/2 or not. The defense is a different question, no one here is expecting to get Seth Jones. If you shop Green, it's for a mid-aged D and a 1st round. I would only shop Green if it's to a team like Calgary/Columbus/Colorado/etc.
Do you guys want a wing? A center?
If you're looking wing, the options are Drouin, Nichushkin, Shinkaruk, Burakovsky, etc.
I'm not in favor of Barkov unless you feel like waiting two years for him to get here. The thought of drafting another Russian in Nichushkin who God knows when he'll be here also makes me want to throw up in my mouth. Plus if you don't want another Center that kind of messes up the entire plan here. If you want another Center just go big and grab MacKinnon and trade up if we tank.
In fact this draft for us kind of makes me want to throw up in my mouth.
We look just like New Jersey during their tank year and they had one of the best 2nd half runs in recent history to get out of the bottom 5. Top 3 is very doable, especially if we start selling.
Also, picks are currency that can be used to trade for established secondary players that fit a role. More picks = better.
I know but I would hate to have a later 1st round draft pick knowing the effects if we don't deal it.
I don't think those guys are bad players, not at all, you could fall with a guy like Giroux at any random notice.
I just think if the Caps really "tank" you might as well "tank" a little more and deal a player to move up if you don't like anyone there.
Sorry I had my mind on Nichushkin and not drafting another Russian. He would be here sooner than Barkov I believe. I meant that Nichushkin would still take awhile and i'm not in favor of snagging another Russian at this point. Barkov is Finnish but he would probably take longer than Nichushkin.
But I really don't like either option to be honest.