A pure goal scorer???

[Rebels57]

No. He sucks.

He actually bounced back nicely in 16-17, but we still have no need for him.

 

[Philly Fanatik]

The object of winning a hockey game is scoring one more goal than the other team...
I know our storied goaltending issues however the scoring just hasn't been there either...
I all was referring to in my statement in starting this thread is getting an accomplished player that can put the puck in the net on a constant clip!
Like an Maurice Richard Trophy winner

 

[lancer247]

Keifer Bellows?
Flyers have the extra 1st from StL although this year is supposed to be a deep draft.
He had a rough season in college I believe and left.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

You don't really need one. You can do it by committee if you have a strong enough team depth wise upfront & on the backend. The Flyers haven't had that in some time which is the issue.

 

[bobbythebrain]

I heard Lecalvier is coming out of retirement

 

[David St Hubbins]

I heard Lecalvier is coming out of retirement

Of course he is doing this in his established style: very slowly

 

[NYCFlyer]

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You don't really need one. You can do it by committee if you have a strong enough team depth wise upfront & on the backend. The Flyers haven't had that in some time which is the issue.

Really? Evidence suggests otherwise. Looking at the last ten SC winners 9 had top shelf scorers. IMO it's the most important thing you need although certainly not the only thing. Of course depth is important, just like solid D and goaltending, but several teams every year have great scorers and good depth. You won't consistently beat those teams with just good depth.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

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Really? Evidence suggests otherwise. Looking at the last ten SC winners 9 had top shelf scorers. IMO it's the most important thing you need although certainly not the only thing. Of course depth is important, just like solid D and goaltending, but several teams every year have great scorers and good depth. You won't consistently beat those teams with just good depth.

That skews it a bit I think. I mean, 8 of the last 10 are just the Kings, Blackhawks, and Penguins.

 

[Newest sens fan]

What has that Jeff Carter guy been doing lately?

 

[Hockeypete49]

Yeah, i agree, hak needs to go

Yes but who are you guys going to bust on next? With Brayden gone clearly the crosshairs are on our HC which makes MacDonald happy.

 

[NYCFlyer]

That skews it a bit I think. I mean, 8 of the last 10 are just the Kings, Blackhawks, and Penguins.

You can go back further but the game has changed quite a bit over the years. Today I would argue that you need more than one great offensive player to compete with teams like Pitt, Chi and in a year or two Toronto and Edmonton. You won't consistently beat those teams with just good depth.

 

[Hockeypete49]

What has that Jeff Carter guy been doing lately?

Laughing to himself as he polishes his two cup rings. Not bad for the most hated Flyer at one time

 

[Philly Fanatik]

Giroux,Voracek and WHOEVER plays with those two on the top line have to light it up and be a dominate force to be reckoned with!
You know what happens when race horses get old?

 

[orangey]

I'd Like to see G and V split up so they can spread the playmaking around a bit. Something like this:

Lindblom - Giroux - Simmonds
Weal - Patrick - Voracek
Filppula - Couturier - Konecny
Raffl - Laughton - Weise

Lehtera, Read

 

[Rebels57]

I'd Like to see G and V split up so they can spread the playmaking around a bit. Something like this:

Lindblom - Giroux - Simmonds
Weal - Patrick - Voracek
Filppula - Couturier - Konecny
Raffl - Laughton - Weise

Lehtera, Read

I like this.

 

[deadhead]

I'd put Voracek with Couts, he plays better with Couts and Couts can cover for his defensive lapses.

I'd pair Konency with Patrick b/c I think they could grow together, Konency's speed is a nice complement and Patrick's size is a good balance.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

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Really? Evidence suggests otherwise. Looking at the last ten SC winners 9 had top shelf scorers. IMO it's the most important thing you need although certainly not the only thing. Of course depth is important, just like solid D and goaltending, but several teams every year have great scorers and good depth. You won't consistently beat those teams with just good depth.

2009-2010 - Kane 30 goals
2010-2011 - Lucic 30 goals
2011-2012 - Kopitar 25 goals
2012-2013 - Toews/Kane 23 goals
2013-2014 - Kopitar 29 goals
2014-2015 - Toews 28 goals
2015-2016 - Crosby 36 goals
2016-2017 - Crosby 44 goals

Since the turn of the decade that's the highest goal scoring players on Stanley Cup winning rosters for that season. The 2012-2013 season was obviously shorten with the lockout.

In reality in terms of roster building & style of play the Flyers are pretty much headed towards resembling LA which was never really a high power offensive team.

 

[NYCFlyer]

2009-2010 - Kane 30 goals
2010-2011 - Lucic 30 goals
2011-2012 - Kopitar 25 goals
2012-2013 - Toews/Kane 23 goals
2013-2014 - Kopitar 29 goals
2014-2015 - Toews 28 goals
2015-2016 - Crosby 36 goals
2016-2017 - Crosby 44 goals

Since the turn of the decade that's the highest goal scoring players on Stanley Cup winning rosters for that season. The 2012-2013 season was obviously shorten with the lockout.

In reality in terms of roster building & style of play the Flyers are pretty much headed towards resembling LA which was never really a high power offensive team.

The 2012 LAK Carter missed most of the regular season (16 games played 6g) returned for the playoffs and had 8g in 20 games.

Carter missed ten games in the 2014 reg season and still had 27g but Gaborik was on that team also and missed almost twenty five games and still had 24 goals and in the playoffs had 14 G in 26 games. They were both excellent dangerous goal scorers. Plus Kopitar.

Kane had 46 goals in 2014/15 .

 

[SheasRebellion6]

I believe Kane scored 46 in 15/16.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

The 2012 LAK Carter missed most of the regular season (16 games played 6g) returned for the playoffs and had 8g in 20 games.

Carter missed ten games in the 2014 reg season and still had 27g but Gaborik was on that team also and missed almost twenty five games and still had 24 goals and in the playoffs had 14 G in 26 games. They were both excellent dangerous goal scorers. Plus Kopitar.

Kane had 46 goals in 2014/15 .

Carter actually split the season with Columbus that year. He scored 21 goals in 55 games playing for both teams.

Those numbers aren't untouchable numbers. There's guys on this team that can score in the 25-30 range.

It was 2015-2016 Kane scored 46 goals. He shot a 16% that year & hasn't come close to that in any other year of his career. Even with all that goal scoring prowess that year Chicago was still knocked out in the first round.

Outside of Crosby in the years those teams won cups they didn't really have elite goal scorers. Their teams scored more so in depth. In LA's case they more so won their cups because they were great at preventing scoring.

 

[Protest]

Think about the elite, pure goal scorers of the past 30 years. Now think about how many cups they have between them.

The common theme of the teams that have won the cup for the past decade is strength down the middle and then either a #1 defenseman, a great goalie, or depth or some kind of combination. But the common thread is strong centers, not goal scorers.

 

[Philly Fanatik]

Flyers top line do not prevent scoring... last year!
1. Voracek -24
2. Simmonds -18
3.Giroux -15
Throw in Ghost with a -21 and there is your team's bacon...
Your top players need to be your TOP players!
I know we'll get it right someday...and Hexy has turned the corner...
Someone posted about the Kings...and thats a great team to prototype...
After the Kings two Cup wins,L.A couldn't keep up with the league's faster and younger opponents,and decided they couldn't wait for to any longer to capitalize on the remaining years of their cores prime...
Hexy will do the same on Broad Street