Salary Cap: A lump of Cole will be Love and Joy to some team on a Daley basis

[IcedCapp]

All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Official 2015-16 salary ceiling: ........71,400,000
Projected 2015-16 cap spending: ....73,490,857
Deadline cap space: ..........................1,659,143

PITTSBURGH PENGUINS

Forward.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Evgeni Malkin|

C​

|

28​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

|

9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|

C​

|

27​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

|

8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|

RW​

|

27​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

|

6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|

RW​

|

28​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

|

4,250,000​

Carl Hagelin|

LW​

|

27​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

|

4,000,000​

Chris Kunitz|

LW​

|

35​

|

3,850,000​

|

3,850,000​

|

UFA​

Sergei Plotnikov|

LW​

|

25​

|

925,000​

|

RFA​

Matt Cullen|

C​

|

38​

|

800,000​

|

UFA​

Oskar Sundqvist|

C​

|

21​

|

700,833​

|

708,333​

|

RFA​

Scott Wilson|

LW​

|

23​

|

655,000​

|

RFA​

Bryan Rust|

RW​

|

23​

|

652,500​

|

RFA​

Kevin Porter|

C​

|

29​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Tom Kuhnhackl|

LW​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Conor Sheary|

LW​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Defense.................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Kris Letang|

D​

|

28​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

|

7,250,000​

Trevor Daley|

D​

|

32​

|

3,300,000​

|

3,300,000​

|

UFA​

Ian Cole|

D​

|

26​

|

2,100,000​

|

2,100,000​

|

2,100,000​

Ben Lovejoy|

D​

|

31​

|

1,100,000​

|

UFA​

Olli Maatta|

D​

|

20​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Derrick Pouliot|

D​

|

21​

|

863,333​

|

863,333​

|

RFA​

Brian Dumoulin|

D​

|

23​

|

800,000​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

Goalie............,.......​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Marc-Andre Fleury|

G​

|

30​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

|

5,750,000​

Jeff Zatkoff|

G​

|

28​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

Injured reserve.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Pascal Dupuis|

RW​

|

36​

|

3,750,000​

|

3,750,000​

|

UFA​

Eric Fehr|

C​

|

29​

|

2,000,000​

|

2,000,000​

|

2,000,000​

Nick Bonino|

C​

|

27​

|

1,900,000​

|

1,900,000​

|

UFA​

Beau Bennett|

RW​

|

23​

|

800,000​

|

RFA​

David Warsofsky|

D​

|

25​

|

600,000​

|

UFA​

Retained salary.....​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

.2017-18​

Rob Scuderi|

D​

|

37​

|

1,125,000​

|

1,125,000​

WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Tyler Biggs|

RW​

|

22​

|

894,167​

|

RFA​

Dominik Simon|

C​

|

20​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

692,500​

|

RFA​

Josh Archibald|

RW​

|

22​

|

659,167​

|

659,167​

|

RFA​

Matia Marcantuoni|

C​

|

21​

|

608,333​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

Jean-Sebastien Dea|

C​

|

21​

|

585,000​

|

585,000​

|

RFA​

Dominik Uher|

C​

|

22​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Kael Mouillierat|

LW​

|

27​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Tom Sestito|

LW​

|

28​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Defense...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Harrison Ruopp|

D​

|

22​

|

650,833​

|

RFA​

Niclas Andersen|

D​

|

27​

|

625,000​

|

UFA​

Tim Erixon|

D​

|

24​

|

600,000​

|

RFA​

Reid McNeill|

D​

|

23​

|

575,000​

|

575,000​

|

RFA​

Will O'Neill|

D​

|

27​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Steve Oleksy|

D​

|

29​

|

575,000​

|

UFA​

Goalie..................​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Matt Murray|

G​

|

21​

|

620,000​

|

620,000​

|

RFA​

Tristan Jarry|

G​

|

20​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

|

589,167​

WHEELING NAILERS

Forward...............​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

2015-16​

|

2016-17​

|

2017-18​

Anton Zlobin|

LW​

|

22​

|

608,333​

|

RFA​

SIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team​

|

Contract​

Daniel Sprong|

F​

|

18​

|

Charlottetown (QMJHL)​

|

3 years, $692,500 per​

UNSIGNED PROSPECTS

Player​

​

​

|

Pos.​

|

Age​

|

Current Team (League)​

Anthony Angello|

F​

|

19​

|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|

D​

|

19​

|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|

F​

|

20​

|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|

F​

|

20​

|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|

F​

|

20​

|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|

F​

|

21​

|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|

F​

|

20​

|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|

F​

|

19​

|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|

G​

|

22​

|Boston University (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|

F​

|

18​

|Des Moines (USHL)

Alexander Pechurskiy|

G​

|

25​

|Khabarovsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|

D​

|

20​

|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|

D​

|

21​

|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|

F​

|

20​

|Western Michigan (NCHC)

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[Sidney the Kidney]

If Kevin Porter gets re-signed, I'm going to have flashbacks to the never ending Craig Adams saga.

Also, that Cole deal is looking worse by the minute. He had me fooled. I thought he'd be a solid 4/5 defenseman based on his stint last year after the deadline. Guess that just shows you should never judge a player based on a small sample size (take notes those who want to deal Kessel).

 

[plaidchuck]

Can't believe a damn near 30 year old ahl scrub has cemented himself into this lineup even when the team is relatively healthy.

 

[hooverdam]

I do wonder how Cole would've done without that terrible stint with Letang. It just destroyed all of the confidence and good will he had built up from last season. I mean, he had a decent camp paired with basically anyone but Letang. Then all of a sudden we had those ridiculous pairings in the first game of the season and the whole defense was a train wreck.

Letang recovered, even withstanding being paired with Scuderi. Cole never did because he's not Letang.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Cole looked bad even when he was given a reduced role. If his confidence is THAT fragile, then that's not a good thing, either.

 

[SEALBound]

It's almost as if Management says "Well...they gotta hate someone every year, right? We traded Scuderi so...let's see...they hated Craig Adams with a passion. Let's reignite that passion. Oh look, Porter. He'll fit perfectly and play that role of hated, useless 4th liner perfectly."

 

[SEALBound]

Cole looked bad even when he was given a reduced role. If his confidence is THAT fragile, then that's not a good thing, either.

He was a 6/7 in St. Louis...we asked him to be a top pairing guy...then a top 4...then a bottom pairing guy. He could barely handle being a #5...because he's a 6/7.

A 6/7 we grossly overpaid for...

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

It's the term, more than anything, that hurts. Cole might be easier to unload if he was a UFA or just had 1 extra year on his deal. With two full years remaining after this one at slightly over $2 million per, that's going to be difficult to move.

 

[SEALBound]

It's the term, more than anything, that hurts. Cole might be easier to unload if he was a UFA or just had 1 extra year on his deal. With two full years remaining after this one at slightly over $2 million per, that's going to be difficult to move.

My guess is that he either stays or is a required take back in a larger trade ala Spaling with Kessel.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

My guess is that he either stays or is a required take back in a larger trade ala Spaling with Kessel.

Or JR convinces Benning in Vancouver that Cole could be as much a part of their core as Brandon Sutter is and acquire someone like Hutton for him.

 

[SEALBound]

Or JR convinces Benning in Vancouver that Cole could be as much a part of their core as Brandon Sutter is and acquire someone like Hutton for him.

I'd do Prust for Cole...in all honesty...

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I'd do Prust for Cole...in all honesty...

Apparently Prust has completely lost his wheels. Not sure that's a good fit for Sullivan's style of play. Although if the option is Prust or Porter ...

 

[Speaking Moistly]

I do wonder how Cole would've done without that terrible stint with Letang. It just destroyed all of the confidence and good will he had built up from last season. I mean, he had a decent camp paired with basically anyone but Letang. Then all of a sudden we had those ridiculous pairings in the first game of the season and the whole defense was a train wreck.

Letang recovered, even withstanding being paired with Scuderi. Cole never did because he's not Letang.

I do think they really ****ed up with Cole this season. The entire team struggled, Letang started the season like crap and they had Cole on the 1st pairing where he was always going to be in over his head; of course they kept that ****** pairing together for awhile. At this point it's about deciding what to do with him: try to fix him (I think we saw that attempt already...), make him go away (trade, buyout, AHL) or have an overpriced 7D.

Starting him with Dumoulin could have ended better, god knows Scuderi-Cole would have been comical. Maybe not as a passable #4 but as a solid bottom pairing D or a more easily moved contract. Instead they made this mess, this team is really good at creating these problems.

It's the term, more than anything, that hurts. Cole might be easier to unload if he was a UFA or just had 1 extra year on his deal. With two full years remaining after this one at slightly over $2 million per, that's going to be difficult to move.

Yeah, idk, I'm sure he's movable to some team. Next season it will only be 2 years at ~2M, maybe some team thinks they can salvage him or wants to hit the cap floor. It's possible that he's shed in a bigger trade or someone owes JR. Scuderi turning into Daley makes me confident that he can go if they're dedicated to doing that.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Yeah, idk, I'm sure he's movable to some team. Next season it will only be 2 years at ~2M, maybe some team thinks they can salvage him or wants to hit the cap floor. It's possible that he's shed in a bigger trade or someone owes JR. Scuderi turning into Daley makes me confident that he can go if they're dedicated to doing that.

Right or wrong, Scuderi at least had the "proven veteran winner" reputation to hold on to. JR can't exactly sell other teams on Cole the same way.

 

[PensandCaps]

Id send cole down. Save 950k? Right?

 

[PensandCaps]

Cole for gilbert?

 

[hooverdam]

I do think they really ****ed up with Cole this season. The entire team struggled, Letang started the season like crap and they had Cole on the 1st pairing where he was always going to be in over his head; of course they kept that ****** pairing together for awhile. At this point it's about deciding what to do with him: try to fix him (I think we saw that attempt already...), make him go away (trade, buyout, AHL) or have an overpriced 7D.

Starting him with Dumoulin could have ended better, god knows Scuderi-Cole would have been comical. Maybe not as a passable #4 but as a solid bottom pairing D or a more easily moved contract. Instead they made this mess, this team is really good at creating these problems.




Yeah, idk, I'm sure he's movable to some team. Next season it will only be 2 years at ~2M, maybe some team thinks they can salvage him or wants to hit the cap floor. It's possible that he's shed in a bigger trade or someone owes JR. Scuderi turning into Daley makes me confident that he can go if they're dedicated to doing that.

Dumoulin and Cole looked good together in camp, and Dumoulin is good enough that he could hide any of Cole's deficiencies ala Lovejoy and make him look better, thus helping his confidence. But now we're relying on Dumo to be our number 2/3 in terms of ice time, and there's no way Cole can hang with those kinds of minutes. So that ship has certainly sailed, unless Daley stumbles and they panic.

I think he's paid like a 5/6 (defense is expensive) and that's what I expected from him before this season. The coaching staff messed that up. And now I don't think he's fixable because I'm not sure who you'd put him with to fix. He wasn't great with Daley, was a disaster with Lovejoy/Scuderi (though who isn't). It's really kind of a bummer.

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

I never thought the Cole deal was the steal that people were making it out to be but he's better than he has been this year. We screwed him.

I think the best course of action is to keep him in the pressbox until we absolutely need him, and give him a fresh start. I think he can rebound somewhat. At least enough to move him for something.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Right or wrong, Scuderi at least had the "proven veteran winner" reputation to hold on to. JR can't exactly sell other teams on Cole the same way.

I'd bet money that Scuderi was sold on "get cap space and move a player that wants out and isn't performing well" and not some proven winner bs. They missed that window with Scuderi, Kunitz probably still has some value added by that reputation.

Dumoulin and Cole looked good together in camp, and Dumoulin is good enough that he could hide any of Cole's deficiencies ala Lovejoy and make him look better, thus helping his confidence. But now we're relying on Dumo to be our number 2/3 in terms of ice time, and there's no way Cole can hang with those kinds of minutes. So that ship has certainly sailed, unless Daley stumbles and they panic.

I think he's paid like a 5/6 (defense is expensive) and that's what I expected from him before this season. The coaching staff messed that up. And now I don't think he's fixable because I'm not sure who you'd put him with to fix. He wasn't great with Daley, was a disaster with Lovejoy/Scuderi (though who isn't). It's really kind of a bummer.

The only one I could see trying him with is Pouliot, and I don't really see the point unless they can't/won't move Cole so it gets tried next season. Spend on a LW (B.O.E.D.K.E.R.) in free agency, though. I really wonder if Kunitz and Bonino getting traded would have enough to acquire a 4D, in that case Cole would probably be SOL.

Boedker-CH
HMK
Rust-Fehr-Sprong
Cullen-Sundqvist-Bennett

Maatta-Letang
Dumoulin-Daley/X
Pouliot-Daley/Cole/X
Cole/whoever

 

[KIRK]

Id send cole down. Save 950k? Right?

Something like that.

Hopefully, JR moves Cole in a Scuderi style deal . . .

 

[rookie skater]

anyone worried that Malkin might request for a trade this summer?

I read somewhere that one of main reasons Plotnikov signed with Penguins over other clubs is due to his talk/phone call to Malkin. Seeing that Russian often have strong nationalism sentiment, I don't think Plotnikov's situation bode well with Malkin's reputation in the Russian players community. Of course there is still Gonchar but he was hired as defensive development coach and European tournament scout. And although Plotnikov's situation is just a single case that might not at all affect decision of EU's talented players in signing with Penguins over other clubs, would be kinda futile role for Gonchar to scout EU players when most of the talented ones probably won't place Penguins at the top of their club choice.

 

[hooverdam]

I'd bet money that Scuderi was sold on "get cap space and move a player that wants out and isn't performing well" and not some proven winner bs. They missed that window with Scuderi, Kunitz probably still has some value added by that reputation.





The only one I could see trying him with is Pouliot, and I don't really see the point unless they can't/won't move Cole so it gets tried next season. Spend on a LW (B.O.E.D.K.E.R.) in free agency, though. I really wonder if Kunitz and Bonino getting traded would have enough to acquire a 4D, in that case Cole would probably be SOL.

Boedker-CH
HMK
Rust-Fehr-Sprong
Cullen-Sundqvist-Bennett

Maatta-Letang
Dumoulin-Daley/X
Pouliot-Daley/Cole/X
Cole/whoever

I think I remember that well before camp and before Pouliot bombed, it was mentioned somewhere that a Pouliot-Cole pairing was their original plan. DK may have talked about it, or possibly Yohe. There was talk about Cole's comfort level on the right side and how much he'd done that in St. Louis.

Obviously that plan was scrapped entirely when Pouliot sucked in camp and then Cole was an abomination, so I doubt they ever touch it again unless, like you said, Cole is still somehow here next season when Pouliot's on steadier ground. But it was at one point a thought in someone's head, so it's not totally crazy.

 

[KIRK]

anyone worried that Malkin might request for a trade this summer?

I read somewhere that one of main reasons Plotnikov signed with Penguins over other clubs is due to his talk/phone call to Malkin. Seeing that Russian often have strong nationalism sentiment, I don't think Plotnikov's situation bode well with Malkin's reputation in the Russian players community. Of course there is still Gonchar but he was hired as defensive development coach and European tournament scout. And although Plotnikov's situation is just a single case that might not at all affect decision of EU's talented players in signing with Penguins over other clubs, would be kinda futile role for Gonchar to scout EU players when most of the talented ones probably won't place Penguins at the top of their club choice.

If the day ever comes that Malkin requests a trade, the handling of Plotnikov won't be a reason.

 

[SEALBound]

anyone worried that Malkin might request for a trade this summer?

I read somewhere that one of main reasons Plotnikov signed with Penguins over other clubs is due to his talk/phone call to Malkin. Seeing that Russian often have strong nationalism sentiment, I don't think Plotnikov's situation bode well with Malkin's reputation in the Russian players community. Of course there is still Gonchar but he was hired as defensive development coach and European tournament scout. And although Plotnikov's situation is just a single case that might not at all affect decision of EU's talented players in signing with Penguins over other clubs, would be kinda futile role for Gonchar to scout EU players when most of the talented ones probably won't place Penguins at the top of their club choice.

I think you are worried about nothing.

Say there's a position open at your company and you call your buddy up and encourage him to apply. He does and gets the job...but now he's at the bottom of the barrel made to do menial labor tasks. Is that a reflection on you? Would you quite the company you are an executive of and making $9.5mil at for your min wage buddy who isn't doing well?

If the day ever comes that Malkin requests a trade, the handling of Plotnikov won't be a reason.

Precisely. Malkin isn't the kind of guy that would request to trade in my eyes.

 

[KIRK]

I think you are worried about nothing.

Say there's a position open at your company and you call your buddy up and encourage him to apply. He does and gets the job...but now he's at the bottom of the barrel made to do menial labor tasks. Is that a reflection on you? Would you quite the company you are an executive of and making $9.5mil at for your min wage buddy who isn't doing well?



Precisely. Malkin isn't the kind of guy that would request to trade in my eyes.

But if he ever does, it will have nothing to do with Plotnikov's handling.