A case for building around Draisaitl and not McDavid

[McDavid87]

Alright, so it's been proven that Draisaitl can run his own line/team.
When McDavid and Draisaitl ran their own lines, we essentially had 2 number 1 lines

Draisaitl drafted in 2014
McDavid drafted in 2015 (we were against the odds in getting the first over all pick)

So REALLY, this would have been Draisaitl's team if we weren't lucky enough to get McDavid.

With that said, wouldn't it make sense to trade McDavid for some amazing wingers/defense

We could get so much for McDavid, and have all 4 lines rolling, rather than just 2 or sometimes 1

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[frag2]

Go cheer for another team

 

[ConnorMcMullet]

Or we can, you know, build around both of them.

 

[3IR]

Nothing would make me happier than you not being allowed to create posts.

 

[McDavid87]

Go cheer for another team

No way

I'm just saying to look at the possibilities we have.

Or maybe trade Draisaitl? They can both bring in the same returns

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Or we can, you know, build around both of them.

Go cheer for another team

These are the correct anwsers

 

[McDavid87]

Nothing would make me happier than you not being allowed to create posts.

why?

Please don't turn this thread into a negative one. If you don't have anything of value to say, don't say it.

 

[ujju2]

No way

I'm just saying to look at the possibilities we have.

Or maybe trade Draisaitl? They can both bring in the same returns

Or maybe just be grateful that we have 2 of the top 5-or-so players in the league, and they're quite young? Begone, troll.

 

[McDavid87]

the responses here are not what i was expecting.....

i am extremely grateful we have these 2 players, but i'm just saying to imagine the possibilities.

i guess this is why i don't see any of you becoming GM's of hockey teams. you'd make poor decisions.

 

[Aerchon]

Purely from a clinical/logical exercise it's interesting.

Moving McDavid opens up a huge amount of cap. You basically get a team to back the truck up for him.

McDavid and superstars in general are not as valuable in today's nhl compared to cost controlled depth.

In a bubble for this year and maybe a couple more you win any trade and get a better team without McDavid but with more depth.

However. As McDavids cap comes down the roster becomes more flexible and depth can be added via prospects, savey trades, and limited UFA additions.

Having two superstars. In their prime. Once their cap % comes down. Is superior to trading McDavid for depth now.

 

[ujju2]

the responses here are not what i was expecting.....

i am extremely grateful we have these 2 players, but i'm just saying to imagine the possibilities.

i guess this is why i don't see any of you becoming GM's of hockey teams. you'd make poor decisions.

Ok, I should really stop engaging the troll, but it's too much fun. Let me know when you become an NHL GM, eh?

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

the responses here are not what i was expecting.....

i am extremely grateful we have these 2 players, but i'm just saying to imagine the possibilities.

i guess this is why i don't see any of you becoming GM's of hockey teams. you'd make poor decisions.

Then you're either completely clueless or utterly disingenuous, because this is a polite reaction given the "subject"

 

[McDavid87]

Purely from a clinical/logical exercise it's interesting.

Moving McDavid opens up a huge amount of cap. You basically get a team to back the truck up for him.

McDavid and superstars in general are not as valuable in today's nhl compared to cost controlled depth.

In a bubble for this year and maybe a couple more you win any trade and get a better team without McDavid but with more depth.

However. As McDavids cap comes down the roster becomes more flexible and depth can be added via prospects, savey trades, and limited UFA additions.

Having two superstars. In their prime. Once their cap % comes down. Is superior to trading McDavid for depth now.

that's true. What age would you put them at to consider trading?

 

[Oil Dood]

Purely from a clinical/logical exercise it's interesting.

Moving McDavid opens up a huge amount of cap. You basically get a team to back the truck up for him.

McDavid and superstars in general are not as valuable in today's nhl compared to cost controlled depth.

In a bubble for this year and maybe a couple more you win any trade and get a better team without McDavid but with more depth.

However. As McDavids cap comes down the roster becomes more flexible and depth can be added via prospects, savey trades, and limited UFA additions.

Having two superstars. In their prime. Once their cap % comes down. Is superior to trading McDavid for depth now.

You lose the trade automatically the second you put McDavid on the market.
It is not just about the game on the ice either, McDavid is worth millions to the Oilers from a marketing standpoint. Oiler fans do not want to live through The Great One 2.0.

 

[McDavid87]

Ok, I should really stop engaging the troll, but it's too much fun. Let me know when you become an NHL GM, eh?

you know, just because you disagree with someone it doesn't mean they're a troll.....

this is a forum to discuss things

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

You could trade 1 or the other, or even both for that matter, but it doesn't mean the players & picks you get would work out or they'd even want to be here.

We have 2 players that are signed to reasonable contracts going forward, who are performing well & want to be here. I don't see the issue.

 

[McDavid87]

You lose the trade automatically the second you put McDavid on the market.
It is not just about the game on the ice either, McDavid is worth millions to the Oilers from a marketing standpoint. Oiler fans do not want to live through The Great One 2.0.

fair.

McDavid is a very exciting player to watch.

 

[3IR]

why?

Please don't turn this thread into a negative one. If you don't have anything of value to say, don't say it.

since the beginning of February, you've felt the need to post multiple threads that are thinly veiled attempts at baiting the fanbase into getting into a pissing match over Mcdavid and Drai.

Nov 6: Do I still need to justify why Draisaitl is the greatest?
Feb 4: Neon Draisaitl is the best player in the league
Feb 11: The NHL's best player knows what to do now.
Feb 21: A case for building around Draisaitl and not McDavid (which suspiciously has no case at all, just more bait)

Just stop.

 

[McDavid87]

since the beginning of February, you've felt the need to post multiple threads that are thinly veiled attempts at baiting the fanbase into getting into a pissing match over Mcdavid and Drai.

Nov 6: Do I still need to justify why Draisaitl is the greatest?
Feb 4: Neon Draisaitl is the best player in the league
Feb 11: The NHL's best player knows what to do now.
Feb 21: A case for building around Draisaitl and not McDavid (which suspiciously has no case at all, just more bait)

Just stop.

i'm glad you took the time to list my VALID threads, but did you not read my other post about maybe even trading Draisaitl?

 

[Oil Dood]

fair.

McDavid is a very exciting player to watch.

He is the best player in the world, he makes others better. You would get a kings ransom for him but you also lose the best player in the world. We traded Gretzky and the return was never equal to the player.

 

[9GWG9]

I don’t think he becomes today’s player without McDavid. They challenge each other to be better.

 

[HockeyGuy1964]

you know, just because you disagree with someone it doesn't mean they're a troll.....

this is a forum to discuss things

So, if anybody disagrees with you that means they won't becoming an NHL GM because they'd make bad decisions?

Okay, gotcha.

Carry on.

 

[fuswald]

Sure a lot of dicks responding here. Guy has a thought (which may indeed be a good idea) and everyone trashes and insults instead of actually having a point.

Could likely get 3 or 4 firsts or 2 top line players plus 2 firsts or...

I like watching McDavid that is my reason to keep him.

Here here having the kahunas for the controversial topic.

 

[Tom Poti]

the responses here are not what i was expecting.....

i am extremely grateful we have these 2 players, but i'm just saying to imagine the possibilities.

i guess this is why i don't see any of you becoming GM's of hockey teams. you'd make poor decisions.

 

[Aerchon]

that's true. What age would you put them at to consider trading?

If you are trading, you trade McDavid asap. Opens up the most cap space % wise and get the most for him as well.

What I'm saying, is in 3 years McDavids cap % is more manageable and you can add depth then.

So their is no point in trading McDavid because while it helps short term it isn't worth it down road. Especially since we do have a decent amount of prospects graduating.

It's also good to note because of poor GMing. The Oilers have too many buyouts and poor contracts to truly get an elite team short term anyways.

We have a lot of dead cap space for another 3+ years with Pouliot, Lucic, Sekera, and Neal.

I really hope Holland can recognize the true window for a stanley cup team is when all our dead cap space is gone and McDrai cap hit % is considerably lower.