GDT: #77 | FLYERS at Stars | Tue., Mar. 27, 2018, 8:30 pm ET | FS-SW+, NBCSP

[Curufinwe]

Cannot wait to see how Hakstol and the rest of that horrendous coaching staff screws this up. I really hope they miss the playoffs, that would have to be the end of Hakstol.

It won't be. If they missed the playoffs by 10+ points, then maybe Hextall would admit he made a mistake.

 

[Curufinwe]

I hope Matt Read will save the day again when TK watches the last period from the bench. Gudas can show Sanheim how to make tape-to-tape passes and Filppula is here to rescue the team before Patrick makes any more stupid things.

I see the improvements this team made and the injection of youngsters but it doesn't get in my head why the stubborn coach still tries the same nonsense over and over again.

Every senior home would be jealous the way we treat our veterans.

I'm sure Weise and Oduya would recommend the pressbox popcorn to other vets.

 

[Rebels57]

We are still in relatively good position. But, this is the least enthused I have been about making the playoffs ever.

This is the very definition of "limping in."

Hak has completely lost his handle on the season. They are a total mess on the ice and are getting points based on the individual talents of their best players. The goaltending situation hasn't helped, but I also don't think Hak has handled that as well as he could either. We are at the point where it's apparent that he doesn't trust either goalie. This is Laviolette in the 2011 Playoffs all over again.

 

[deadhead]

Well, gee, I guess most teams win because of the individual talents of their worse players?
I mean the Penguins would still beat teams without Crosby and Malkin playing well. Right?

The Flyers have 89 points with 5 games left, they're a good bet to get to 95, which would be a pretty darn good season given the goal tending this year.
With average goal tending, they'd probably would have been a lock for 100 points.

Let's put it this way, if NJ had Mrazek and Lyon instead of Luongo, what do you think their record would be?
Columbus without Bob? Florida without Kincaid?
A hot goal tender makes a coach look like a genius.

 

[Curufinwe]

If Neuvirth was ready I would start him. He could be rusty or get hurt again, but I think he has the best chance of all five goalies to steal an individual game.

 

[The Rage Kage]

Well, gee, I guess most teams win because of the individual talents of their worse players?
I mean the Penguins would still beat teams without Crosby and Malkin playing well. Right?

The Flyers have 89 points with 5 games left, they're a good bet to get to 95, which would be a pretty darn good season given the goal tending this year.
With average goal tending, they'd probably would have been a lock for 100 points.

Let's put it this way, if NJ had Mrazek and Lyon instead of Luongo, what do you think their record would be?
Columbus without Bob? Florida without Kincaid?
A hot goal tender makes a coach look like a genius.

They look like playoff teams without those guys!

 

[BackWithaVengeance]

Dallas, like a lot of mediocre teams, is a good team at home, the road is another matter.

They lost to the Canucks at Home 4-1 recently.

 

[FlyerFaithful17]

They lost to the Canucks at Home 4-1 recently.

Yeah, there's really no excuse here. They are a more flawed team than even the Flyers, and have been playing generally horrendous.

 

[BernieParent]

They look like playoff teams without those guys!

It would be an interesting exercise to collectively write a PGT from a Penguins perspective. Fell behind early, played a meh first period and were trailing at 1st intermission, took back the lead twice only to give up equalizers, the second with less than a minute in the game. Had to squeak out a win in OT against an inferior opponent.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

It would be an interesting exercise to collectively write a PGT from a Penguins perspective. Fell behind early, played a meh first period and were trailing at 1st intermission, took back the lead twice only to give up equalizers, the second with less than a minute in the game. Had to squeak out a win in OT against an inferior opponent.

That would be "interesting" the same way it would be "interesting" to inject yourself with malaria just to see how it feels.

 

[Rebels57]

Yeah, there's really no excuse here. They are a more flawed team than even the Flyers, and have been playing generally horrendous.

No different than Detroit, who came into their game 0-9-1 in their previous 10, then proceeded to skate us out of the building. We have absolutely no cohesiveness and seemingly no gameplan going into each game. This is why other teams take it to us early in games before the PLAYERS figure out what they need to do to get the game back on track.

I am fully expecting more of the same and for us to be lucky to get 1 point, and will probably walk away with 0. I'm also still expecting Florida and NJ to pass us and for us to miss the Playoffs (expecting not hoping). They are playing better hockey and getting much better goaltending.

 

[explosive skating]

I know the score but won't tell you.

 

[marcsson68]

The Flyers have 89 points with 5 games left, they're a good bet to get to 95, which would be a pretty darn good season given the goal tending this year.
With average goal tending, they'd probably would have been a lock for 100 points.

Let's put it this way, if NJ had Mrazek and Lyon instead of Luongo, what do you think their record would be?
Columbus without Bob? Florida without Kincaid?
A hot goal tender makes a coach look like a genius.

Idea: To check out how important goaltending has been you might have to check the (first to third) stars goalies have received after the game.
Getting a first star usually means a goalie has more or less won the game alone with a spectecular shootout or sth like that. Receiving a second or third star also means the goalie made a huge impact.

The choice of the three stars obviously is being influenced by bias but numbers over a whole season should mean something.

The ones like Andersen, Helleybuck and Fleury have collected multiple stars even though their teams are playing well in general. My guess is Bob has collected more stars than all of the Flyers´ goalies together.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

The problem with basing anything at all on the Stars of the Game isn't just bias. It's that the people choosing them are largely unqualified to do so.

It would tell you nothing something as simple as SVP doesn't already do and better. They're basically using extremely limited sample sizes of GAA and SVP to vote.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

I know the score but won't tell you.

stop you tease you lol

 

[deadhead]

They are getting much better goaltending.

That's it, pure and simple.
Flyers goaltending has been below league average, those three teams have goalies posting S% of close to .930 down the stretch.
Keep the teams the same, switch goalies with the Flyers, and we lap all three by 10 points.

March:

CBJ: Bob 7-2 .932 - Korpisalo 3-1 .898
NJ: Kincaid 6-2 .931 - Schneider 0-4 .852
FLA: Luongo 5-3-1 .927 - Reimer 4-0 .963

St Louis: Allen 7-2 .927 - Hutton 0-0-1 .912
Pittsburgh: Murray 1-1-1 .907 - DeSmith 2-0 .884 - Jarry 4-2 .883
Wash: Grubauer 5-2 .927 - Holtby 3-1 .887

Pittsburgh like us, are winning despite their goalies, but I don't think anyone really thinks that we are as talented as the Penguins after the trade deadline.

 

[Rebels57]

 

[Rich Nixon]

The Stars have been playing absolutely terrible recently, they've lost like 8 or 9 straight and fallen clean out of the playoff picture. If they lost this one they can kiss their season goodbye.

So I fully expect them to beat the Flyers.

 

[orangecrush8]

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but is there a chance Neuvirth is ready and starts?

 

[Jray42]

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but is there a chance Neuvirth is ready and starts?

God I hope so

 

[Rebels57]

The Stars have been playing absolutely terrible recently, they've lost like 8 or 9 straight and fallen clean out of the playoff picture. If they lost this one they can kiss their season goodbye.

So I fully expect them to beat the Flyers.

Just like last Tues against Detroit

 

[BackWithaVengeance]

I love how 95 points are probably enough to be in when the Panthers and Devils are winning game after game.

Loosing to the Stars will eventually mean a b2b loose to the Avalanche too since these guys actually know how to win on home ice.

These next 2 will teach us a lot.

 

[deadhead]

What are the odds the Panthers, Jackets and Devils continue to win out?

 

[Jtown]

What are the odds the Panthers, Jackets and Devils continue to win out?

Very low. Panthers have a brutal schedule. They go up against boston 3 times

 

[dats81]

For some reason the playoff odd chart does not match my gut feeling.
And it doesn't seem to correlate with the standings either. NJ is 3 points behind with one game in hand. Where does that gap in probability come from?