Post-Game Talk: #75 | FLYERS at Sabres | Saturday, Apr. 16, 2022 | 7:00 pm ET | MSG-B, NBCSP

[kudymen]

If anyone asks: LOL

 

[Beef Invictus]

What creativity did he get rid of?

Ghost? He of a grand total of 3 primary assists 5v5 over his last two seasons as a Flyer combined?

Voracek? Well, he wanted out, and didn't we all complain that this team had too many pass-first players and not enough shooters? He was exhibit A.

Who else?

They added Frost for more than half the season. He was supposed to be a creative player.

Giroux? He was here until the deadline, when he had to go.

What it boils down to is that the organization is very low on skill, and has been for many years. Hopefully players like York and Brink add to it. Maybe Foerster and Andrae eventually. Hopefully whomever they pick early in this draft. And maybe a couple players this summer via UFA and trade.

They have done their utmost to punish the creativity out of Frost. Remember? They said he's too "cute" and has to stop making those plays. They think creativity is unsafe and dangerous. They made this publicly clear, and their actions back up their words. They do that with everyone. They value grinding and blindly firing pucks from the perimeter. They value pucks deep over control. They value "veteran presence" which is pretty undefinable and does not result in a single on-ice positive.

Ghost's creativity drove play up ice from his own end. Creative transition play is extremely useful. Fascinating that you focused on primary assists. Cherrypicking to contour to a preferred narrative is always an indication that narrative isn't accurate to reality. When aspects of reality need to be deleted to make a story work, it's a bad sign for the truth of that story. Especially in this case where his misuse was plainly obvious to anyone being honest about the team.

Voracek wanted out because of grotesque mismanagement and horrendous coaching. Giroux "needed" to be traded due to the state of the team, thanks against to grotesque mismanagement and horrendous coaching.

They are low on skill because their development process abhors and punishes skill. They are low on skill because Fletcher abhors it and gives it away in favor of garbage. Fletcher has been here a long time now. The team and everything about it is fully, totally, 100% his now. Has been for a while.

 

[Cody Webster]

They looked good in the first period, then the ceiling caved in.

Zamula didn't look ready for prime time in this game, he's certainly not ready for top 4 duties. He just turned 22 so no worry, but I think his frame will limit what he can do, he's not a speed merchant like Sanheim, he's going to lose leverage battles, so it comes down to anticipation and stick work.

Cates is for real, it's so obvious his game was suppressed at Minn-Duluth, he's smart and has the skill package to take advantage of his IQ - not an elite talent, but easily top 9 with top 6 potential as a supporting winger. Plays 200 feet and the puck finds him.

Frost and Tippett are similar, they play faster than they think, Frost skates into trouble or holds the puck too long, Tippett makes things happen then misses the opportunity he creates - but look at Tage Thompson, some players just need a couple years for the game to slow down for them, patience is a virtue as long as the kid keeps working hard to improve. If you don't have innate hockey intelligence, then you need experience to learn to see what's happening.

Brink at 20 is a better player than Frost, hands down. He needs to continue to work on his skating, but he showed some jets when needed. He's in some ways similar to G, the way he controls the puck in a small area and has the vision to hit a linemate through a crowd. You can't teach that stuff. His squat body allows him to play in traffic and his high IQ gets him into plays at both ends. He's going to replace G on the PP and with the right coach (and York at PP1 QB) they might get back to respectable next year.

Sanheim on the other hand is not good in a small area, the 6 on 5 when he was on the blue line, tried to hold the puck, couldn't find anyone to pass to and was stripped shows why PP duty may not be his "thing." He's best on the move in open space where those long strides pressure the defense. But those long legs also make it harder to maneuver in small spaces.

JVR has his 20 goals, time for a "injury" and sit out the rest of the season.

Yawn

 

[Flyerfan4life]

What creativity did he get rid of?

Ghost? He of a grand total of 3 primary assists 5v5 over his last two seasons as a Flyer combined?

Voracek? Well, he wanted out, and didn't we all complain that this team had too many pass-first players and not enough shooters? He was exhibit A.

Who else?

They added Frost for more than half the season. He was supposed to be a creative player.

Giroux? He was here until the deadline, when he had to go.

What it boils down to is that the organization is very low on skill, and has been for many years. Hopefully players like York and Brink add to it. Maybe Foerster and Andrae eventually. Hopefully whomever they pick early in this draft. And maybe a couple players this summer via UFA and trade.

lol.. we got rid of skill, no shit the teams low on skill..

newsflash the gromps and Yandles dont bring skill all they bring are old wornout bodies..

a primary feature that Fletch covets..

ur list is a list of pure nhl skills btw.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

It's a pleasure watching the panthers games and remembering when the Flyers were a good team. It was all Girouxs fault.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

lol @ Yandle. Tune in to check score and see that.