Post-Game Talk: #73 | FLYERS at Capitals | Tuesday, Apr. 12, 2022 | 7:00 pm ET | ESPN | Hart + Atkinson injured

[renberg]

At the TDL I was hoping that Laczynski and Allison would be called up but other things got in the way with that. Now, I could care less. Whatever helps them lose more games is what I want to see happen. Play the turds-MacEwan, Brown, Thompson, Yandle, Connaughton and Seeler as often as possible. Just keep stacking up those Ls. Need a better draft position and help to get Yeo out of town.
Last night was an embarrassment and a stain upon the franchise. Fletcher & Co. should be ashamed of themselves for allowing the club to be in a position where it could happen. At least Alec Bohm apologized to the fans for messing up the other night. These clowns just carry on like there was nothing to see here.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Thank God we didn't trade Martin Jones. Could you imagine how many goals the Caps would have scored yesterday if he wasn't there? We need to make sure we stay competitive out there and get a goalie to steal a few games down the stretch!

 

[Curufinwe]

So you do care.

 

[freakydallas13]

Friendly reminder that Flutch and co. Have put this franchise in a position where the last decade (including this year) will be known as "the good years" moving forward.

 

[deadhead]

The only way Atkinson gets traded is if Chuckles is shit canned. There is no way in hell he trades the big acquisition from last offseason in the next offseason. That's a clear signal to his boss that he screwed up.

It wasn't a "big acquisition," it was the trade of one bad contract for another, both players needed a change of scenery.
And Atkinson will be easier to move this offseason than Voracek.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Why do people want to trade Atkinson? Hayes yes I can see but Cam has been one of the rare bright spots on this shit stain of a season.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Then Fletcher made no big acquisitions that worked in the last off season with a Bias for Action. He should be fired.

 

[Larry44]

he scored his 20th goal playing on this dumpster fire team, is all I got.

Did he hit a bonus? do they still have them?

 

[dragonoffrost]

Why do people want to trade Atkinson? Hayes yes I can see but Cam has been one of the rare bright spots on this shit stain of a season.

Hayes has a 12 team no trade list after this league year. He still will be tough to trade.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Epic. Unfortunately I do not have a flux capacitor nor a DeLorean......You can pick up a DeLorean pretty cheap.....I have yet to see a flux capacitor on Ebay or Amazon.........

https://www.oreillyauto.com/flux-500.html

 

[dragonoffrost]

Did he hit a bonus?

no performance bonuses listed on cap friendly. Probably is thinking he's helping him flee the Titanic.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

The Flyers are going to be better next season than all the Chicken Littles around here are asserting.

Healthy Couturier and healthy Hayes will make a significant difference.

Possibility of Ellis in the lineup.

Lazy soft one-way players like JVR gone.

Cam York with a pro season under his belt and in the top-6.

Some actual decent young depth either in the lineup or turning pro and not far away (Cates, Laczynski, and Allison NHL ready; Brink, Desnoyers, Zamula, in NHL striking distance).

Probably a big UFA addition, and perhaps a hockey trade or two for better balance/mix.

And maybe even a top 5 pick who will compete for a roster spot.

New head coach.

I'm not all doom and gloom heading into the offseason.

 

[Beef Invictus]

The Flyers are going to be better next season than all the Chicken Littles around here are asserting.

Healthy Couturier and healthy Hayes will make a significant difference.

Possibility of Ellis in the lineup.

Lazy soft one-way players like JVR gone.

Cam York with a pro season under his belt and in the top-6.

Some actual decent young depth either in the lineup or turning pro and not far away (Cates, Laczynski, and Allison NHL ready; Brink, Desnoyers, Zamula, in NHL striking distance).

Probably a big UFA addition, and perhaps a hockey trade or two for better balance/mix.

And maybe even a top 5 pick who will compete for a roster spot.

New head coach.

I'm not all doom and gloom heading into the offseason.

"The Flyers will be better than you think" hasn't been true in a really long time. Certainly at no point during the Fletcher tenure.

My favorite part is where big chunks of this plan require that Fletcher suddenly become fond of playing a ton of youth, suddenly stops losing trades badly, and suddenly stops making bad FA signings.

So if Fletcher stops being who he has always been, they've got a chance.

 

[deadhead]

Why do people want to trade Atkinson? Hayes yes I can see but Cam has been one of the rare bright spots on this shit stain of a season.

Because he'll be 33 with 3 years left on his deal at $5.25M.
He has more value to a playoff team that needs scoring than to the Flyers.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Because he'll be 33 with 3 years left on his deal at $5.25M.
He has more value to a playoff team that needs scoring than to the Flyers.

Fletcher thinks they're ready to contend and that's what he's been trying to do. You think he wants a rebuild and yet he hasn't shown any indication he does.

 

[Rebels57]

Then Fletcher made no big acquisitions that worked in the last off season with a Bias for Action. He should be fired.

By the time this team is good again, he'll have nothing left.

I'm not against keeping him but see the logic in trading him.

 

[dragonoffrost]

By the time this team is good again, he'll have nothing left.

I'm not against keeping him but see the logic in trading him.

By trading him you have a tough sell that you did anything good in the last 365 days. That is very easily grounds for firing. Fletch really needs to keep him to save face. Next offseason it could be easier to deflect the criticism if he needs to trade Atkinson.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

The Flyers are going to be better next season than all the Chicken Littles around here are asserting.


I'm not all doom and gloom heading into the offseason.

haahah did you snip that from last year ?

news flash they will be worse...

 

[Rebels57]

By trading him you have a tough sell that you did anything good in the last 365 days. That is very easily grounds for firing. Fletch really needs to keep him to save face. Next offseason it could be easier to deflect the criticism if he needs to trade Atkinson.

I understand that

 

[Ghosts Beer]

I don't see Atkinson getting traded this summer.

It would make sense if they were going full rebuild, but they are attempting to improve.

They don't have the organizational scoring depth to trade him for futures right now if the goal is to compete next season.

 

[zizbuka]

If I were Zamula I would be pretty frustrated at all of this...

Better than York in AHL, nah, no call-up.
Yandle, Seeler and Connauton playing all year.
Now Attard playing over him when he really does not look NHL ready and needs some AHL time.

If I were a young player with the talent to be in the NHL, I'd try my best to get away from the Flyers.

 

[zizbuka]

Right now I'd keep the AHL players in the AHL, it's a better environment since they're still in the PO race.

They're in last place, with the 3rd worst point pct in the entire league.

 

[Magua]

2022: The Flyers will be better than you think
2023: The Flyers will be better than you think
2024: The Flyers will be better than you think
2025: The Flyers will be better than you think
2026: The Flyers will be better than you think
2027: The Flyers will be better than you think

 

[FLYguy3911]

By 2027 that first round pick Fletcher acquired for Giroux should be ready to contribute though.

 

[deadhead]

I still think it comes down to Scott, Fletcher has said he wants to add more under 25 players to the core, but that is not something you do by paying JG $10+M a year, or trading for a veteran.

I think the collapse of the team may have sobered up Scott/Holmgren - there is no bias for action that's going to turn this team around quickly. They do have a lot of young talent between 20-24 years old (from Brink and Andrae to Allison and Laczynski), but it takes a couple years for inexperienced players to hit their stride.

A realistic appraisal would see the need to step back for a couple seasons, get a couple top ten draft picks, use cap room like Arizona to pick up assets, and trade draft picks only for RFA types that their teams can't afford to keep (Toews). Add 2-3 quality players to this depth of young talent, and you could turn it around in 3 years.