Post-Game Talk: #71 | Wild at Flyers | March 23, 2023

[Starat327]

Tucson is my facvorite poster here. The blatant re-wording of every post they respond to is the comedic value my time need these days.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Kucherov and Point were not #1 picks.

Caufield is not a star, he's DeBrincat, good goal scorer who brings little else to the table.
York is a top 4 D-man and we got Brink as well.

Tanking for Bedard is nice, but the odds you get him are 5 to 10:1.
And even if the Flyers actively tanked this season, it would been difficult to finish better than 5th.
CBJ, San Jose, Chicago and Anaheim are really bad.
Arizona tried desperately to tank and they're tied with us at 6th.

This.

 

[ugiswrong]

The teams currently directly above Flyera are going through their depression since their hopes faded more recently. So they will lose a bit.

The teams below us, if you look at their goal differential, are just even more horrendous. We aren’t slipping that far and never were.

I think really it’s only worth watching what Arizona and Montreal do these next weeks.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Foerster has been one of the best forwards on this team since he was called up. Last night I was thinking this is another team, this isn’t the Flyers.
Frost and Foerster have been something else. There is some serious chemistry there and along with Farabee playing some good hockey in the last week. Those 3 players have been bad for the tank.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

That's the exact spot I predicted the second they hired Torts. I knew he would get them to grit-grind their way to enough meaningless wins to stay out of the Bottom 5.

This situation is very bleak.

wait till next year when he has the entire summer to be in Briere ear about needing more vet grinders..

#darkest timeline

 

[Flyer lurker]

Kucherov was pick 57.
So at least the flyers can use there 2nd round oops....
Well, maybe if the flyers trade their 2024 2ND oops
Your only hope on getting pick 50+ is giving up on O'Brien.

It generally helps when making a case that 2nd round picks can hit is if the team ACTUALLY HAS A 2ND ROUND PICK THAT THE FLYERS KEPT AND DIDN'T TRADE FOR A RENTAL RHD OR DUMP A RHD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Magua]

Your only hope on getting pick 50+ is giving up on O'Brien.

It's funny, but as far as picks not panning out, a compensatory pick is basically best case. Obviously, we'd all like the pick to pan out, like Miller or Sandin (who were 2 of my top 3 on the board). But look at these other picks immediately after O'Brien: Kupari, Merkley, Lundestrom, Johansson (Flahrsy!), Bokk, Bernard-Docker, Beaudin, Veleno, Alexyev. Would you trade ANY of these for pick 51? Not a chance.

Now, if only the Flyers had their own top 40 pick for 3 years in a row, and extra 1sts and 2nds.....

 

[wasup]

Kucherov was pick 57.
So at least the flyers can use there 2nd round oops....
Well, maybe if the flyers trade their 2024 2ND oops
Your only hope on getting pick 50+ is giving up on O'Brien.

It generally helps when making a case that 2nd round picks can hit is if the team ACTUALLY HAS A 2ND ROUND PICK THAT THE FLYERS KEPT AND DIDN'T TRADE FOR A RENTAL RHD OR DUMP A RHD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Braydon Point was 79th

 

[Flyer lurker]

Braydon Point was 79th

The good news is the flyers can use their 3rd oops ada.

BUt goodie they have a 3rd for braun

 

[Flyer lurker]

1
4 2's
2 3's
4
7

got flyers
1 salary dump
3 rhd rentals with one year on the deal.

You cannot tell flyers fans with common sense about depth picks are needed when then organization for the past 4 years has shown a LOATHING of keeping 2nd round picks.

But I forgot that will be Hextall's fault too instead of Flusher.

 

[tucson83]

Kucherov and Point were not #1 picks.

Caufield is not a star, he's DeBrincat, good goal scorer who brings little else to the table.
York is a top 4 D-man and we got Brink as well.

Tanking for Bedard is nice, but the odds you get him are 5 to 10:1.
And even if the Flyers actively tanked this season, it would been difficult to finish better than 5th.
CBJ, San Jose, Chicago and Anaheim are really bad.
Arizona tried desperately to tank and they're tied with us at 6th.

there's just too many bad teams that's the problem here, the organization saw that, they knew bedard was a pipe dream from the beginning, that's why they didnt tank.

 

[Beef Invictus]

there's just too many bad teams that's the problem here, the organization saw that, they knew bedard was a pipe dream from the beginning, that's why they didnt tank.

Great move, huh? Now they have a other year of not getting better.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

there's just too many bad teams that's the problem here, the organization saw that, they knew bedard was a pipe dream from the beginning, that's why they didnt tank.

 

[Ironmanrulez]

So one cup isn’t enough for you got it

Passive aggressive useless postings nonstop! Dont even knowing the rules your arguing with and about.

 

[tucson83]

Great move, huh? Now they have a other year of not getting better.

you hate the rules, then watching hockey then. no one has control over this.

 

[Beef Invictus]

you hate the rules, then watching hockey then. no one has control over this.

What are you even talking about?

 

[Pantokrator]

Kucherov and Point were not #1 picks.

Caufield is not a star, he's DeBrincat, good goal scorer who brings little else to the table.
York is a top 4 D-man and we got Brink as well.

Tanking for Bedard is nice, but the odds you get him are 5 to 10:1.
And even if the Flyers actively tanked this season, it would been difficult to finish better than 5th.
CBJ, San Jose, Chicago and Anaheim are really bad.
Arizona tried desperately to tank and they're tied with us at 6th.

I agree with the odds about getting Bedard - and I know just tanking doesn't ensure success - see Arizona. But without a legitimate star I don't see how any team can consistently compete for the Cup in the modern setting. Unless you have a St Louis Blues type of magical run, which is not a consistent plan but one based on hope.

Think about any Cup contender - they have 3 or 4 players better than ANYONE on the Flyers. For the Flyers to be able to compete, you are talking we need 3 or 4 players better than any currently on the team. Odds show the best way to get a good player is to have a high draft pick. High draft picks have a better chance of being impact players. It is not an exact science but based on statistics, it is the best way.

If you go back to the lockout season, since then,, 15 times the scoring leader was picked in the top 3 - Kucherov, Benn, and St. Louis are the only ones not taken in the top 3.

Plus notice who got Point and Kucherov - Tampa. When was the last time the Flyers picked a player in a later round who ended up leading the league in scoring? I don't trust this franchise at all. Granted, to be honest, I think even if the Flyers got Bedard, he would fail in some way, so I really have no point in arguing...

 

[Striiker]

Brought to us by the same assessment process that determined despite actual results, Rocky is a "very bright" coach who will fix the offense and PP. And Gordon is also "very bright" and destined for another NHL shot. And Yandle and Hagg and TDA are clearly better than Ghost. And Stewart will be good and score ten goals. Among many more very wrong takes.

The omens are bad for the "we are making a good foundation and this agony is nearly over" assessment.

Hakstol and AV were jerked off constantly too. Praised for being smart and charismatic too.

And obviously “Torts is the best thing that has happened to this team in a long time”.

 

[BernieParent]

A team with no stars tends to lose to teams with them. Just look at every cup winner besides St Louis in the cap era. I'd say it's pretty foolish to build a cup contender based on the one exception in ~20 years.

There are Hockey God's, you see? And the way to appease them is to play the Right Way. And if you play the Right Way -- which the Old Guy Testament describes as winning games with a maximum of 3 goals, forechecking, banging bodies, and blocking shots -- these Gods will rewards you just like They rewarded teams like the Blues and ... umm, that's about it, with winning.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

There are Hockey God's, you see? And the way to appease them is to play the Right Way. And if you play the Right Way -- which the Old Guy Testament describes as winning games with a maximum of 3 goals, forechecking, banging bodies, and blocking shots -- these Gods will rewards you just like They rewarded teams like the Blues and ... umm, that's about it, with winning.

50 years of Flyers history says otherwise..

just sayin