GDT: #63: Sabres at FLYERS, Tuesday, Feb. 26, 2019, 7:00 pm ET

[Laveuglette]

Why JVR on the 4th line?

 

[Magua]

Those who think Myers has played 'too well' to become a scratch are setting themselves up to be outraged on purpose.

Except he has played too well to be scratched, save for incompetence, which no one ruled out. He’s been demonstrably better than Hagg and MacDonald, two fringe NHL players; he’s been very good on his own merits too. People are not setting themselves up for anything. They’re speaking the truth. It’s worthy of outrage.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Why JVR on the 4th line?

A series of adjustments. The first line wasn't clicking to the staff's dismay. Patrick was to be rewarded for his recent play. Simmonds and JVR on the same line may not have worked. He was demoted to a fourth line earlier in the calendar year and had a discussion with the head coach about certain expectations. My guess is they hoped for a similar rebound with the demotion similar to when it happened prior.

 

[Mike1167]

No.

Seven points to make up on the Pens and others in twenty games. Unfortunately it isn't likely. Maybe trade Simmonds for some help down the road. We'll see I guess.

 

[GKJ]

Except he has played too well to be scratched, save for incompetence, which no one ruled out. He’s been demonstrably better than Hagg and MacDonald, two fringe NHL players; he’s been very good on his own merits too. People are not setting themselves up for anything. They’re speaking the truth. It’s worthy of outrage.

Yeah, it’s nice to think about. There’s a difference in getting spontaneously outraged in something you should expect to happen.

 

[deadhead]

Looking forward to having Myers in the lineup again. That kid can play. Just imagine where the Flyers would be if they'd had Hart and Myers from the get-go this season.

The exact same place.

Hart clearly wasn't ready, he had a rough start in LHV and only turned it around his last few games before he was recalled.
Myers didn't stand out in TC the way he should, the extra half year helped him become more consistent.

Hextall and Fletcher seem remarkably consistent in being patient with prospects at the AHL level.
Then again, what prospect, other than Sanheim after he was sent down last year, has been so dominant they had to promote them? Even Lindblom last year had just started to turn the corner when he was promoted.

NHL scoring tends to be about 1/2 AHL scoring, so if a forward is putting up 0.5 ppg at ES, he's going to be 0.25 or less at the NHL level (since he's going to play fewer minutes and forget PP points) - so we're talking 20 points a year or 3rd/4th line production.

 

[TheKingPin]

Morin won’t play this game. Gordon won’t put in someone with 2 NHL games and coming off of a major injury in the middle of a playoff hunt against teams ahead of them in the standings.

Only way Morin gets in the lineup is if they’re out of the playoffs. I’m ok with that too.

Well I think he has to be on the team at least at some point. He can only stay with the phantoms if he clears waivers and he won’t. So it’s benched or play but it’s with the Flyers. I would think they’d have him play. Only one way to get to game shape afterall

 

[CapnZin]

Well I think he has to be on the team at least at some point. He can only stay with the phantoms if he clears waivers and he won’t. So it’s benched or play but it’s with the Flyers. I would think they’d have him play. Only one way to get to game shape afterall

Oh I agree. Sadly, I don’t know when “game shape” will be perceived ready by Gordon. I don’t think Gordon gives him time over the likes of Amac and Hagg. Myers has been the best Dman play-wise the first 2 games he played and it was like pulling teeth just to get him in the lineup.

 

[TheKingPin]

Oh I agree. Sadly, I don’t know when “game shape” will be perceived ready by Gordon. I don’t think Gordon gives him time over the likes of Amac and Hagg. Myers has been the best Dman play-wise the first 2 games he played and it was like pulling teeth just to get him in the lineup.

Yea seen that now over and over with the last two coaches. They have to be so patient and then the player kills it as soon as they get in. Morin will do the same. Hope for a trade for now and may need a injury if nothing happens there.

 

[Curufinwe]

Those who think Myers has played 'too well' to become a scratch are setting themselves up to be outraged on purpose.

And what about those who claimed Ghost-Myers would be used as the 3rd pairing the last two games by Gordon? What were they doing?

 

[Curufinwe]

Yea seen that now over and over with the last two coaches. They have to be so patient and then the player kills it as soon as they get in. Morin will do the same. Hope for a trade for now and may need a injury if nothing happens there.

I really don’t know what makes you think Morin is ready to kill it in the NHL after playing two AHL games in the past 10 months. He’s way behind where he would be in October after a full preseason and training camp, and the best thing they can do is go easy on him.

 

[TheKingPin]

I really don’t know what makes you think Morin is ready to kill it in the NHL after playing two AHL games in the past 10 months. He’s way behind where he would be in October after a full preseason and training camp, and the best thing they can do is go easy on him.

I didn’t say he’s ready to play right now. I said when he gets in he will kill it. And it’s obviously a different scenario vs Myers.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Morin still has a game left in the AHL before the Flyers have to activate him. I can’t imagine he gets any NHL games until later on when the organization admits the games are totally meaningless if he does at all.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

This is definitely a must win. Sabres have been better the last couple of games but I hope this also means that Myers stays up. Seriously, Myers has been really good.

 

[TheKingPin]

Morin still has a game left in the AHL before the Flyers have to activate him. I can’t imagine he gets any NHL games until later on when the organization admits the games are totally meaningless if he does at all.

Could happen soon. Play the jackets, isles x2 and caps coming up.

 

[GKJ]

And what about those who claimed Ghost-Myers would be used as the 3rd pairing the last two games by Gordon? What were they doing?

Falling into a false sense of security that someone finally forced A-Mac or Hagg into being the 7th defensemen

 

[BiggE]

Except he has played too well to be scratched, save for incompetence, which no one ruled out. He’s been demonstrably better than Hagg and MacDonald, two fringe NHL players; he’s been very good on his own merits too. People are not setting themselves up for anything. They’re speaking the truth. It’s worthy of outrage.

Sadly, when it comes to generating legit outrage, this team is top notch.

 

[Rebels57]

Myers will be scratched. Lockerroom dynamics mean more to the Flyers than playing the best players.

 

[VladDrag]

And what about those who claimed Ghost-Myers would be used as the 3rd pairing the last two games by Gordon? What were they doing?

The Flyers trailed in both of those games, though. The first game was a 5-1 (3-0 with 10min gone in the first). In the second, the Flyers trailed since the half way thru the 2nd period. You put your better offensive players when you're losing.

But that doesn't mean that Gordon did not plan to play Myers/Ghost as the 2nd pair.

 

[BiggE]

The Flyers trailed in both of those games, though. The first game was a 5-1 (3-0 with 10min gone in the first). In the second, the Flyers trailed since the half way thru the 2nd period. You put your better offensive players when you're losing.

But that doesn't mean that Gordon did not plan to play Myers/Ghost as the 2nd pair.

Who knows what Gordon will do? Trying to read his mind is like trying to read a badly written comic book.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Can't wait for this huge, enormous game.

JK, who cares.

 

[BiggE]

Can't wait for this huge, enormous game.

JK, who cares.

I'm as excited for this game as I usually am for getting a root canal.

 

[TheKingPin]

I really don’t know what makes you think Morin is ready to kill it in the NHL after playing two AHL games in the past 10 months. He’s way behind where he would be in October after a full preseason and training camp, and the best thing they can do is go easy on him.

Morin still has a game left in the AHL before the Flyers have to activate him. I can’t imagine he gets any NHL games until later on when the organization admits the games are totally meaningless if he does at all.

Morin recalled!

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

Morin recalled!

As a non-roster player currently.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

As a non-roster player currently.

this is getting to be a Gordon MO..