62 career shutouts for Henrik Lundqvist

[135ace]

Citation needed.

Unless your definition of "choked" is "ultimately lost before winning the Cup", in which case I'd suggest that you tighten up your definition.

2011 Caps vs Rags= Neuvirth .946 to Hanks .917
2012 Devils vs Rags= Brodeur .927% and above .900 in 5/6 games. Hank .917% and over .900 in 2/6 games.
2013 Bruin vs Rags= Rask .936% and Hank with .918
2014 Kings vs Rags= Quick .932 and Hank with .923 (holy crap, he actually posted a save % above .920 for once)
2015 Tampa vs Rags= both Bishop and Hank post awful .902%
2016 Pens vs Rags= Rookie Matt Murray posts .955 to Hanks incredible .867 (Pay me 8.5MM and I'll post a better save percentage than that).
and in 2017 Hank posts .905 vs a mediocre Senators team.

He's literally the most overrated goalie ever.

 

[Thordic]

He's played on some stacked teams and has always choked in the playoffs.

Over the course of the current Rangers "window" in the Lundqvist era, he has been up and down in the playoffs. But saying he choked isn't accurate. The Rangers have absolutely flamed out a number of times, and god couldn't have bailed them out. If our forwards can't score or don't get shots, of course the other goalies stats look fantastic. And if our defense plays like a sieve, only so much of that is on Hank. When Torts was here, the teams were exhausted and beat up at the end of the season and didn't have enough left in the tank for the playoffs. And AV's system, in Vancouver and NY, has shown to be much less effective in the playoffs than the regular season.

 

[Kane One]

Lundqvist is the most overrated goalie out there. Doesn't even deserve HHOF. He's played on some stacked teams and has always choked in the playoffs. Pretty much every Rags playoffs exist has been due to Henrik getting outplayed by the opposing goalie.

Always choked in the playoffs? Maybe you should look at his stats.

If only we can dislike posts here.

 

[Kane One]

2011 Caps vs Rags= Neuvirth .946 to Hanks .917
2012 Devils vs Rags= Brodeur .927% and above .900 in 5/6 games. Hank .917% and over .900 in 2/6 games.
2013 Bruin vs Rags= Rask .936% and Hank with .918
2014 Kings vs Rags= Quick .932 and Hank with .923 (holy crap, he actually posted a save % above .920 for once)
2015 Tampa vs Rags= both Bishop and Hank post awful .902%
2016 Pens vs Rags= Rookie Matt Murray posts .955 to Hanks incredible .867 (Pay me 8.5MM and I'll post a better save percentage than that).
and in 2017 Hank posts .905 vs a mediocre Senators team.

He's literally the most overrated goalie ever.

So you’re only selecting the series in which the Rangers lost?

 

[Irishguy42]

Since when has Hank played on stacked teams lmao

He hasn't.

 

[TGWL]

I can't see him not getting into the top 10. I think 80 is a very realistic number for him in the next 3-6 years. He had 12 shut outs over the last 3 seasons but he is aging so i can see that slowing him down.

I don't see him playing longer than his contract. If we're generous with 5 a year, that'll give him 81 (counting the 1 already from this year). I think 5 is a but high since he hasn't hit that in a couple of years. I'll say he ends up with around 73-76.

 

[VanIslander]

Places him 16th all-time. 4 behind Patrick Roy. Where do you foresee him finishing when all is said and done?

Luongo has 73 and is under contract for until 2022, so just getting to Lu would be an accomplishment.

But though King Henrik is 16th all time in career shutouts, he has passed some all-time greats who didn't play in an 82-game era and who Lundqvist is NOT a stitch better than (many would easily argue is NOT as good as):

Clint Benedict 57
Bernie Parent 54
Ed Giacomin 54
Ken Dryden 46
Gump Worsley 43
Charlie Gardiner 42
Frank Brimsek 40
Bill Durnan 34

Now, don't get your knickers all in a bunch. He just passed Nabokov who is not HHOF worthy imo and I've been a Sharks fan for over 20 years, but I think Lundqvist (and Luongo who he has an outside chance of catching up to) are HHOFers-in-waiting of this generation (Fleury too, but less deservingly so imo, though the next couple of seasons in Vegas might change all that!).

But Lundqvist's 16th in shutouts does NOT make him a Top-25 goaltender in the history of the game (the list doing no justice to Georges Vezina, Vladislav Tretiak and others).

Just putting things in context.

 

[Doctor No]

2011 Caps vs Rags= Neuvirth .946 to Hanks .917
2012 Devils vs Rags= Brodeur .927% and above .900 in 5/6 games. Hank .917% and over .900 in 2/6 games.
2013 Bruin vs Rags= Rask .936% and Hank with .918
2014 Kings vs Rags= Quick .932 and Hank with .923 (holy crap, he actually posted a save % above .920 for once)
2015 Tampa vs Rags= both Bishop and Hank post awful .902%
2016 Pens vs Rags= Rookie Matt Murray posts .955 to Hanks incredible .867 (Pay me 8.5MM and I'll post a better save percentage than that).
and in 2017 Hank posts .905 vs a mediocre Senators team.

He's literally the most overrated goalie ever.

(1) Yes, in series where teams lose, the losing team's goaltender often has a lower save percentage than the winning team's goaltender.

(2) You aren't using the word "literally" correctly.

(3) If someone put you in an NHL net, you would "literally" get killed.

Weird that a Devils fan would have a grudge against Lundqvist, though. Hmm.

 

[Algernop Kreider]

Since 2012, Henrik "Unclutch" Lundqvist is 15-5, .945, 1.74 with 2 shutouts in playoff games when facing elimination.

 

[135ace]

Since 2012, Henrik "Unclutch" Lundqvist is 15-5, .945, 1.74 with 2 shutouts in playoff games when facing elimination.

And how many cups does he have? Nobody cares about prima donnas like Lundqvist who will never win a cup.

 

[Doctor No]

And how many cups does he have? Nobody cares about prima donnas like Lundqvist who will never win a cup.

A lot of posts from you on this topic, given that your premise is that "nobody cares".

 

[Roomtemperature]

Oh for... its a team game. The goalie isn't the only thing on the ice

 

[KingBran]

You know Roy won ten straight OT games in the playoffs, right?

That's cool. Lesser goalies have done similar (won multiple playoff games in a row) that didn't go to OT. Some goalies have a longer playoff shutout streak than Roy ever had and aren't even close to the same level . Roy was great, he has some great stats and some fun facts like the one you posted. But some random fun facts like that don't make him elite IMO. For instance Roman Turek won 42 games in a season once. Roy never did that. Brent Johnson went 3+ games in the playoffs with a shutout. Roy never did that.

Fun facts don't make any individual a better player.

 

[Eisen]

And how many cups does he have? Nobody cares about prima donnas like Lundqvist who will never win a cup.

Is that in any way, shape or form indicative of failure?

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Since 2012, Henrik "Unclutch" Lundqvist is 15-5, .945, 1.74 with 2 shutouts in playoff games when facing elimination.

I'd be much more impressed if he didn't face elimination as much.

 

[EpicDing]

Oh for... its a team game. The goalie isn't the only thing on the ice

When a Devils fan is defending a Rangers player, you know you're off base.

 

[feffan]

Of course the days of him leading the NHL with 10-11 SO a season are long gone (season 10/11 last he did that...). But he´ll be good for 2-5 SO until he retire (2, 5, 5, 4, 2 hist last seasons...) . Even in pushed into a backup role he will get a few games when his body feels greater than his age. If he only plays out this contract that puts him with about 8-20 more SO. With a lot of luck with injuries and team strengths he could actually challenge Hall. And that´s alot of luck and playing at least another contract. But more realistic he will slot in behind Luongo/Esposito/Belfour, depending on how many Luongo will have when he´s done.

For interest - amongst goalies than played beyond 40 in the last 10 years or so Brodeur had 29 SO after Lundqvists current age. Hasek had 36 (despite skipping a few years...). Roloson had 17. Belfour had 19. Joseph had 10. Khabibulin had 8.

 

[The S5]

I'd be much more impressed if he didn't face elimination as much.

No doubt, Hank has played his best facing elimination. But, as you point out, what got them to game 7? In many of those series, Hank was pulled in games earlier in the series.
Now there are those who would say that it was because of the defense, but why is it when Hank stinks, its the D, but when he does well, its because he is the best goalie in the game?

 

[IamNotADancer]

Since when has Hank played on stacked teams lmao

He hasn't.

As a Rangers fan I am distraught to have missed out on those dynasty teams which were super stacked. I really wish I could have watched the powerhouse New York Rangers teams from 2004 to 2017.

 

[Lays]

Lundqvist has never been on a stacked team lol he was the reason they were very good. He definitely deserves to be in HHOF, he's been the best and most consistent of the last decade (except the last two years, last years playoffs he performed though) I remember analysts and people saying if they were in an elimination game and had to choose any goalie all time it'd be Hank. He carried the Rangers. It's not his fault his team cannot win the cup, you guys expect him to shutout every game?

 

[Eisen]

No doubt, Hank has played his best facing elimination. But, as you point out, what got them to game 7? In many of those series, Hank was pulled in games earlier in the series.
Now there are those who would say that it was because of the defense, but why is it when Hank stinks, its the D, but when he does well, its because he is the best goalie in the game?

Goalies not only get pulled when they stink, they also get pulled when they are shelled.

 

[BlueBrunswick]

I know when Roy played. It's still surprising at a glance considering he's most people's goat at his position.

Roy had 18 SO over his last three years, from ages 35 to 37, including leading the NHL with 9 at 36... in the early 90s (ages 22 to 26) he lead the leagues in SV% in 4 out of 5 years, but only totaled 16 SO over those 5 years - he never had more than 5 in any of those years and even at that he was tops in the league with 5 one of those years.... it was a different era, I think he may have more SO than anyone else over those 5 years.

 

[feffan]

63...

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

I find SO% more interesting than # of Shutouts. Especially once you remove the players from the early days when SO's were commonplace. Hasek benefits from not getting lit up in the mid-late 80s like Roy did, but still goes to show how good Hasek was compared to his peers.

	Year of Birth	Games Played	SO	SO%
Dominik Hašek	1965	735	81	11.02%
Terry Sawchuk	1929	971	103	10.61%
Martin Brodeur	1972	1266	125	9.87%
Jacques Plante	1929	837	82	9.80%
Glenn Hall	1931	906	84	9.27%
Harry Lumley	1926	803	71	8.84%
Tony Esposito	1943	886	76	8.58%
Evgeni Nabokov	1975	697	59	8.46%
Henrik Lundqvist	1982	745	62	8.32%
Ed Belfour	1965	963	76	7.89%
Roberto Luongo	1979	967	73	7.55%
Patrick Roy	1965	1029	66	6.41%

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Too bad he retired early. He could have played in Buffalo at the age of 50, but, oh well.

 

[Machinehead]

Lundqvist is the most overrated goalie out there. Doesn't even deserve HHOF. He's played on some stacked teams and has always choked in the playoffs. Pretty much every Rags playoffs exist has been due to Henrik getting outplayed by the opposing goalie.

He played on exactly one team even in the realm of "stacked" and took them to the Finals in 13-14. And that team still had a couple of massive holes.

Do I believe the narrative that he's been on bad teams his whole career? No. But stacked teams? C'mon. He's been one legit Cup team his whole career and they lost a close Final with three overtime losses.