5pt night for McDavid (and goty candidate?)

[Hank Plank]

I hate the Oilers.

But you're a fool if you don't admit McDavid is on a level all his own.

 

[TheNumber4]

Yeah and what are his loose puck retrieval/60?

Sportsnet said it was basically a 1A/1B situation so ...

1st in league scoring vs 20th(ish) in league scoring. OF COURSE ITS A 1A/1B situation, the distance between these generational superstars is only 19 other players.

 

[Apotheosis]

I curse those damn lottery numbers. One number off. Literally one. Most combinations left of any team AND HE HAD TO GO TO EDMONTON. Why couldn't the hockey gods smile at Toronto that day... just why. What a player man.

 

[ORRFForever]

Most talented player since Lemieux

Maybe.

He was other worldly, tonight. Just stupid good.

 

[McAsuno]

I curse those damn lottery numbers. One number off. Literally one. Most combinations left of any team AND HE HAD TO GO TO EDMONTON. Why couldn't the hockey gods smile at Toronto that day... just why. What a player man.

You guys already have generational at puck retrievals in Auston Matthews though

 

[oilers68]

good coverage after the game on sportsnet for once

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Awesome night for Connor, but GOTY worth goal???? yeah right, meh goal, nothing special about it, the only special thing was the lofty pass.
Sonny Milano in the other hand takes the lead in GOTY with his goal.

 

[TheNumber4]

I curse those damn lottery numbers. One number off. Literally one. Most combinations left of any team AND HE HAD TO GO TO EDMONTON. Why couldn't the hockey gods smile at Toronto that day... just why. What a player man.

Hockey Gods realize that Toronto has had every advantage you could possibly have in building an NHL team. They did justice by letting the Oil have it. Time to accept and move on T.Dot, and stop attacking your own home grown talent in McD cause he's not a Leaf.

 

[Apotheosis]

You guys already have generational at puck retrievals in Auston Matthews though

Don't heed the comments about random metrics to prop up any player. I love advanced stats because they're good at predicting. Matthews has 50 goal, 100 point potential (if they ever decide to get rid of Babcock) but McDavid far surpassed that threshold ages ago. Dude is probably going to drop 120 points on a team with zero depth. Possibly even 130 considering he usually starts off slow compared to his second halfs (where he goes on massive tears).

 

[illpucks]

Awesome night for Connor, but GOTY worth goal???? yeah right, meh goal, nothing special about it, the only special thing was the lofty pass.
Sonny Milano in the other hand takes the lead in GOTY with his goal.

He located the puck in the defenders feet at high speed, deked the goalie and scored in 3 quick moves. Sonny's was something that Gerbe and Hertl already did better.

Either way, that Devils forward has GOTY AINEC

 

[Apotheosis]

Hockey Gods realize that Toronto has had every advantage you could possibly have in building an NHL team. They did justice by letting the Oil have it. Time to accept and move on T.Dot, and stop attacking your own home grown talent in McD cause he's not a Leaf.

No one has an advantage over the other in building a team in a cap league my friend. I will not derail the thread with this topic but, 1. I am not attacking him, I praised him and 2. There was no justice in him going to an incompetent organization who had 3 of the past 5 first overalls in that time span.

 

[McAsuno]

Don't heed the comments about random metrics to prop up any player. I love advanced stats because they're good at predicting. Matthews has 50 goal, 100 point potential (if they ever decide to get rid of Babcock) but McDavid far surpassed that threshold ages ago. Dude is probably going to drop 120 points on a team with zero depth. Possibly even 130 considering he usually starts off slow compared to his second halfs (where he goes on massive tears).

Scary thing about McDavid is that he's still shaking off rust. Once he's back to 100%, the kid's going to tear the league apart.

 

[Apotheosis]

Scary thing about McDavid is that he's still shaking off rust. Once he's back to 100%, the kid's going to tear the league apart.

Best pure hockey talent since Mario. He used to play against people in my high school grade, but he's a year younger and he was utterly dominant. One of my friends once said that there was no point in trying to defend him once he got even half a stride on you. He was going to go around you.

 

[The Pale King]

Can you imagine that Mario once had 45 in 10? lol

He didn't. This was established in another thread recently. The announcer who made the remark was incorrect.

 

[KCC]

Tonight was the first game where he looked like himself.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

The only people that should be mad are the two teams that didn’t draft Leon Draisaitl when they could have.

McDavid is incredible but Draisaitl has been better so far this year.

 

[VainGretzky]

Have you watched all their games? Tonight was the only game McDavid looked better than Drai this season, and any oiler fan will agree with that.

This Oiler fan agees Drai has 10 ES points 5 on PP McDavid has 8 ES 9 onPP

 

[TheNumber4]

No one has an advantage over the other in building a team in a cap league my friend. I will not derail the thread with this topic but, 1. I am not attacking him, I praised him and 2. There was no justice in him going to an incompetent organization who had 3 of the past 5 first overalls in that time span.

Free agency attractiveness varies wildly from one organization to the next. Oilers being at the bottom rung of that scale. Pre cap matters when talking about an organizations built up karma or what they deserve. Leafs signed high dollar free agents over and over and couldn't do anything with it, Oilers wouldn't even get a free agent to consider.

But yes. Let's drop this. Don't reply. Not derailing a McDavid thread. I will accept that you are praising the GOAT so let's stop now.

 

[Mickey Marner]

McDavid has scored many goals nicer than the one in the OP.

 

[illpucks]

He didn't. This was established in another thread recently. The announcer who made the remark was incorrect.

what was the actual stat?

 

[Heldig]

Hockey Gods realize that Toronto has had every advantage you could possibly have in building an NHL team. They did justice by letting the Oil have it. Time to accept and move on T.Dot, and stop attacking your own home grown talent in McD cause he's not a Leaf.

Just no.

 

[zar]

You guys already have generational at puck retrievals in Auston Matthews though

Let it go. Outside of a couple idiots (like every fan base has), most TML fans agree, unquestionably, Connor is the better player. The majority of them have said this all along.

 

[The Pale King]

what was the actual stat?

He had 37 in the first ten games of the season in 88-89, and an 11 game stretch towards the middle of the year where he had 40.

Still absurd.

 

[The Panther]

Can you imagine that Gretzky once had 153 in 51?

And had 49 points in one calendar month -- going +32 during the month (November, 1983).

I do think McDavid is the overall "best" player since Mario Lemieux. He has the extremely rare combination of uber-fast skating in full control of the puck and elite hockey-IQ.

I don't think McDavid's puck handling + vision is quite as good as Lemieux's (and his vision certainly not as good as Gretzky's), but it's not that far off. (Mario was on a different level, however, when it comes to beating goaltenders with an arsenal of shots/dekes/moves).

Since I've been watching hockey, from the mid-1980s on, the three best players I've seen are:
1. Gretzky up to September 1991
2. Lemieux 1987 to 1996
3. McDavid October 2016 to now

Everybody else -- Bourque, Messier, Forsberg, Yzerman, Hasek, Crosby, Ovechkin, Lidstrom... plus a few more I can't think of right now -- are just a step or two behind.

 

[48g90a138pts]

Can you imagine that Mario once had 45 in 10? lol

45 in 15 games