#57's top 150 + Sleepers

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  1. NA Scouting

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    Been working on this for a while now. No scoutng report since it would be too long of a post, if you need any info about a player in particular just ask and I'll answer.

    Tell me what you think. This will probably be my only list since I'm in a couple of fantasy leagues and don't really want to give away who I like/dislike..

    We all have our opinions on certain players, so please don't turn this thread into a bashing fest. I would much rather create a couple of pages of discussion on my list and on the 2007 NHL entry draft.

    Enjoy:

    01 James Van Riemsdyk
    02 Patrick Kane
    03 Jakub Voracek
    04 Alexey Cherepanov
    05 Kyle Turris
    06 Karl Alzner
    07 Lars Eller
    08 Mikael Backlund
    09 Maksim Mayorov
    10 Logan Couture
    11 Zach Hamill
    12 Thomas Hickey
    13 Sam Gagner
    14 Ryan McDonagh
    15 Oscar Moller
    16 Angelo Esposito
    17 Patrick White
    18 Kevin Shattenkirk
    19 Colton Gillies
    20 Luca Cunti
    21 Simon Hjalmarsson
    22 Colby Cohen
    23 David Perron (2nd eligible year)
    24 Billy Sweatt
    25 Max Pacioretty
    26 Mark Katic
    27 Dana Tyrell
    28 James O'Brien
    29 Brandon Sutter
    30 Nick Petrecki

    31 Logan MacMillan
    32 Keaton Ellerby
    33 Joel Gistedt (2nd eligible year)
    34 Ian Cole
    35 Vladimir Ruzicka
    36 TJ Brennan
    37 Brett MacLean
    38 Riley Nash
    39 Jonathan Blum
    40 Milan Kytnar
    41 Alexander Killorn
    42 Trevor Cann
    43 Akim Aliu
    44 Kevin Marshall
    45 Joakim Andersson
    46 TJ Galiardi (2nd eligible year)
    47 Tyson Sexsmith
    48 Jake Hansen
    49 Eric Doyle
    50 Sergei Korostin
    51 Nick Ross
    52 Mark Owuya
    53 Niclas Lucenius
    54 Yakov Seleznev
    55 Brendan Smith
    56 Stefan Legein
    57 Teddy Ruth
    58 Jeremy Smith
    59 Maxime Tanguay
    60 Bradley Malone

    61 Nick Palmieri
    62 Brad Phillips
    63 Casey Pierro-Zabotel
    64 Jens Hellgren
    65 Ruslan Bashkirov
    66 Alex Plante
    67 Dale Mitchell
    68 Yan Weber
    69 Tommy Cross
    70 Nico Saccheti
    71 Ondrej Roman
    72 Mike Hoeffel
    73 Will Weber (Unranked by CSS)
    74 Juraj Valach
    75 Niclas Torp
    76 Nick Spaling
    77 Radim Ostrcil
    78 Maxim Goncharov
    79 Keven Veilleux
    80 Alex Grant
    81 Denis Reul
    82 Lassi Kokkala
    83 Antoine Lafleur
    84 Maxim Gratchev
    85 Trsitian Llewellyn
    86 Mark Guggensberger
    87 Michal Repik
    88 Zack Torquato
    89 Kent Patterson
    90 Joe Lavin

    91 Colton Sceviour
    92 Spencer Machacek
    93 Nick Larson
    94 John Negrin
    95 Ryan Hayes
    96 David Stich
    97 Linden Rowatt
    98 Olivier Fortier
    99 Eric Tangradi
    100 Robert Bortuzzo
    101 Timo Pielmeier
    102 Taylor Ellington
    103 Chris Didomenico
    104 Josh Turnbull (2nd eligible year)
    105 Mark Santorelli (Unranked by CSS)
    106 Jason Gregoire
    107 Drew MacKenzie
    108 Jean-Simon Allard
    109 David Skokan
    110 Bradley Eidness
    111 Justin Vaive
    112 Evgeny Dadonov
    113 Drayson Bowman
    114 Aaron Palushaj
    115 Justin LeClerc
    116 Mario Kempe
    117 Taylor Matson
    118 Brent Regner
    119 Luca Caputi
    120 Vitali Karamnov

    121 Fred Andersson
    122 Ben Blood
    123 Ben Ryan
    124 Matt Marshall (2nd eligible year)
    125 Josh Kidd
    126 PK Subban
    127 Blake Kessel
    128 Dion Knelson
    129 Kurtis Mucha
    130 Matt Robertson (2nd eligible year)
    131 Simon Lacroix
    132 Matt Fillier
    133 Joonas Jarvinen
    134 Yves Bastien
    135 Keith Aulie
    136 Josh Unice
    137 Oliver Lauridsen
    138 Justin Falk
    139 Michael Biega
    140 Harri Ilvonen
    141 Bryan Cameron
    142 Justin McCrae
    143 Paul Postma
    144 Nicola Riopel
    145 Roman Bashkirov
    146 Juraj Mikus
    147 Eetu Poysti
    148 Ondrej Rusnak
    149 Brett Sonne
    150 Reid Ellingson

    Top 15 SLEEPERS:

    01 Igor Musatov
    02 Adam Bezak
    03 Juha Metsola
    04 Nick Bonino
    05 Etienne Froideveaux
    06 Martin Ylven
    07 Egor Averin
    08 Andrei Stas
    09 Branislav Horvath
    10 Jori Lehtera
    11 Mitch Fadden
    12 Nikolai Lukyanchikov
    13 Carter Camper
    14 James Marcou
    15 Dustin Gazley
     
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    good list :handclap:
     
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    Good list, I appreciate the time. If you could, could you tell me a little about the following players:

    Patrick White
    Max Pacioretty
    Vladimir Ruzicka
    Logan MacMillan
    TJ Brennan
    Riley Nash
    Brett MacLean

    Thanks a lot.
     
  4. Anthony Mauro

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    I like the way you think. We are on the same wavelength's. I like Hickey, Moller, and White up there and Ellerby, Plante, and Blum down. (I do not like those three at all)

    Minor disagreement is Petrecki the last of the first round but I can see why. Sutter could stand to be a little higher, but again I can see why.
     
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    seems like i say it every time... but at least if they arent in the top 150, put dustin jeffrey and josh godfrey on the sleepers list!
     
  6. Will Weber is a stud..

    I'd love to see him do good.
     
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    I like it:) . Some big surprises, but that always happens. The lists and mock drafts popping up lately all vary alot, and just solidify most peoples opinion that this draft is wide open from spot 15-20 (?) and into the third round.
     
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    BTW, who is Kytnar at #40 and Seleznev at #54. Don't think I've heard of them before....
     
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    Letang fan 58 No More Fleury

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    Alex Plante in the 3rd round?
     
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    So, everyone where beside their name his written 2nd eligible year, it mean they were available to be draft last year but htey wern't? Just like Andreas Nodl in 2006.
     
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    this is what I posted in the other thread:


    Here's a great HF article on him done in december. Since then he's seen his stock rise signifigantly. He recently he also committed to Cornell (which is the source of my interest) after a heated recruiting battle between the big red, denver, and north dakota.

    I was hoping that the Rangers would finally oblige me and select a Cornell player, perhaps grabbing him in the second or third round, but that may be impossible now. The comparisons to Zajac would certainly intruige me, where I a gm, and I wouldn't be suprised if he vaulted up into the late first round, especially when you consider how wide open this years draft is.

    On a seperate note, Riley's older brother Brendan, a 6'3" defensemen who just finished up his first year at Cornell, was recently named to the ECAC all freshman team. Inconsistant, but very talented, I'm shocked that Brendon hasn't been snatched up yet, and I would expect him to get taken in the later rounds this year. 6'3" defensemen that can skate and have decent hands tend to get drafted on principle.
     
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    Yep, just like Nodl, and Trevor Lewis and Nikolai Kulemin i believe. There were plenty others too...
     
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    Yeah, I saw that. Thank you for the information, I was just looking for more of a scouting report.
     
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    ah, I wasn't sure if you had or not. I believe McKeens has one, but I think it's members only.
     
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    Closer to where I'd have him. Plante has been horribly overrated, IMO. Good list #57.
     
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    kulemin had been eligible 2 times allready. add dick axelsson from the first 2 rounds.
     
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    White plays in the USHL for Tri City. Hes a pretty complete player, skates well, nice wrist shot, nice defensive game, nice size and isnt afraid of traffic. He's a competitor and has been rising lately and I really like his all-around game.

    Pacioretty I havnt seen much of, he plays in the USHL too and is a great offensive player, but also plays a good two-way game. White and him are still far from the NHL, but they have 1st line potential and are actually pretty safe bets to make it IMO.

    Ruzicka plays in the Czech's U20 league, put up some nice numbers over there this year. He skates very well and has a very nice 6'1 196lbs frame. He's got soft hands, is good along the boards and is responsible defensively. I could see him developp into a very good 2nd liner in the future.

    TJ Brennan is a riser, one of the top rookies in the Q this season. He's great all-around, and his offensive game is very good. He has a nice first pass and rarely makes mistakes. He'll have to improve his strenght, but I have no doubt he'll be a top-4 blueliner someday for an NHL team.

    MacMillan exploded in the playoffs for Halifax with Voracek. He's well-known for his defensive game, but he showed he could produce offensively if put on a line with an offensive player. He could be a pretty good, two-way 2nd liner in the future, but more realistically one of the league's best 3rd liner. Think a John Madden type of guy.

    Someone just posted an article on Riley Nash

    Brett MacLean is a guy who has fallen a bit lately. He did well for Oshawa but played most of his time on the 2nd line (the top checking units where against the 1st and Tavares) and played on the PP with Tavares. I dont really like his skating, but he's got soft hands and is a dangerous player offensively.



    Yeah, I realized a little while I go we had the same kind of opinions!

    Petrecki I think isn't good enough for the new NHL - think Adam Foote. I'm sure you know enough about him to judge him though. As for Sutter, I think he could become a good NHL player, but I just think there are better prosects available at the tailend of the 1st.


    Kytnar shined at the U18 and had some nice stats in the Slovak's Div I playing against men. Maybe he's too high but I just fell in love with him at the U18. For most of you guys he'd be a sleeper, but I just happen to think he's the next big Slovakian offensive star. I really like his offensive game, and he already has the size to compete. Watch out for him.

    As for Seleznev, I actually don't really know a lot about him - I dont even know his style of play - never saw him, but I read something about him that made me think he had a lot of potential. He said he really wanted to come to N-A and play in the NHL, and that he was willing to do anything to get to his goal. I also heard he was a pretty smooth skater, and that he had a nasty side to his game.
     
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    Letang fan 58 No More Fleury

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    I would be surprised if he isnt picked up in the first round. He could go as high as 15 IMO. A tall, righthanded shooting dman with offensive skills who has the frame to grow into is not easily come by.
     
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    Yes but if you had the choice between a guy like Hickey, who's a smooth-skating offensive dmen, with a nice first pass and good hockey sense, and Plante who's big but plays soft, doesnt skate well and is a good offensive player, who would you pick?

    Against Shattenkirk, who skates well, plays smart and is good all-around, who's a pretty safe bet to become a top-4 guy, can do it all, etc..

    Against McDonagh who probably has the highest potential aside from Alzner, great at everything and is very defensively, can also put up points.

    Against Cohen and Katic, two very similar players, very smooth skaters, can carry the puck from their own zone and make an intelligent play with the puck, nice offensive vision and hockey sense, good shot from the point and good first pass..

    People need to realize this is the new NHL, slow and big like Derian Hatcher and Adam Foote were good back in the days, now it's Brian Campbell and J-M Liles, smooth skating, responsible defensively and very good offensively.

    Juraj Valach plays in the same league as Plante, very similar players although I'd agree Plante has more upside, but I don't see anyone saying Valach is a 1st rounder, so...
     
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    Actually those two are like 151st and 152nd on my list. I just happen to think there are better prospects before.

    Keep an eye on Godfrey and Jeffrey, they could definitely sneak in the top 3 rounds - the draft is so wide oppen, basically anything can happen.
     
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    Oscar Moller is my favorite player in this draft (as you can see from my avatar), and I think #15 is a good spot for him... I'm still praying he falls to the Flyers at pick #23, but that doesn't look so likely anymore.

    The list itself is very good... great job. I have a different top 5, but nothing too drastic:

    1) Voracek
    2) Turris
    3) Van Riemsdyk
    4) Kane
    5) Alzner

    After all, with this draft, everyone's got a different jumble at the top.

    I also think Kent Patterson (#88) is going to end up being the best goalie taken in this draft... I still can't figure out why he's so underrated.

    A couple sleepers to add:

    Colton Yellow Horn - LW - Tri-City Americans (WHL) <-- 3rd eligible year... just because I root for the little guy who defeats the odds. Oh, and his name's awesome, too.

    Keegan Dansereau - RW - Calgary Hitmen (WHL) <-- 2nd eligible year

    Andrew Clark - LW - Brandon Wheat Kings (WHL) <-- I'm surprised he's not part of your top 150, to be honest

    Ryan DePape - RW - Prince Albert Raiders (WHL) <-- 2nd eligible year

    Gianluca Caputi - LW - Mississauga IceDogs (OHL) <-- burst on the scene this past season... not ranked by CSS in final rankings (although he was #98 among NA skaters as of January)

    Rob Kwiet - D - Toronto St. Michael's Majors (OLH) <-- 2nd eligible draft year

    Justin DiBenedetto - LW - Sarnia Sting (OHL) <-- 2nd eligible year

    Kaspars Daugavins - LW - Toronto St. Michael's Majors (OLH) <-- 2nd eligible draft year

    Brandon Martell - D - Elk River High School (MN)

    Juho-Peterri Purollina - D - HIFK (Finland U20)

    Mikael Paunio - C - HIFK (Finland U20)

    Roman Schlagenhauf - C - Kloten (Switzerland U20)

    Marek Daloga - D - Zvolen (Slovakia U20)

    Vladimir Bakika - C - Dynamo Moscow 2 (Russia-3)

    Mihail Glukhov - LW - Mytischi (Russia)
     
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    Daugavins has been drafted last season by the Sens.

    Theres a couple guys in there that are like, just outside of my top 150. Daloga, Paunio, Caputi (although he is ranked by CSS) and Clark.

    Do you have any kind of info on the others? Especially Schlagenhauf, whos ranked pretty high by CSS?
     
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    you raelly think gagner would be drafted that late?

    In fact I hope gagner and esposito will both be drafted by #12 so that we don,t even have to think about them. I'd like shattenkirk from what I've read.

    I just hope habs are going after a guy who has the upside to turn into a very good dman in years to come.. I don't think we have enough of those...while we're full on attack and goaltenders.
     
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    I scoured the internet to see if Daugavins had been drafted... I couldn't remember, so I put him down anyway. Thanks for clearing that up.

    Not sure how I missed Caputi on the CSS final ranking list... guess that's what happens when you only skim over things.

    Anyway, I have some info about Schlagenhauf...

    Roman Schlagenhauf (2007), C/LW

    Tournament wrap-up: best Swiss passer (2 assists) .. tied with Gregory Sciaroni, Reto Suri, Adam Hasani and Tobias Bucher for leading Team Switzerland in points (2 points) .. an alternate captain .. caught the eye on a number of shifts in the first matchup against Canada with his agility and smooth stickhandling skills .. could create a handful of smart plays but wasn't a consistent factor .. repeated his performance also in the second contest against Slovakia .. could drive the net adequately hard and orientated himself well in the opposing slot .. performed as a left winger in the fifth-place game against Czech Republic .. showed an ability to maintain puck-possession in traffic with quick dekes .. a decent playmaking factor .. wasn't a physical menace but was willing to perform in traffic .. proved the tools in creativity and stickhandling to get a decent tournament rating.

    Scouting: an okay skater .. possesses a decent first-step quickness .. shows a solid agility on his skates .. blessed with okay acceleration .. okay top-end speed .. should add more bulk to his lower-body .. emerges as a swift puckhandler with soft hands .. makes quick smooth moves .. likes to penetrate into the offensive zone with the puck on his stick and subsequently create plays .. solid at gaining offensive zone possession for his team .. doesn't loose puck-possession when deking his way out of the corners .. can play a sneaky game with the puck in traffic .. willing to perform in the opposing slot .. blessed with decent smarts and offensive instincts .. capable of quick tape-on-tape passes .. unleashes an accurate wrist shot with a fast release .. accurate snap shot could be harder .. doesn't use his slap shot very often .. capable of surprise moves when finishing in-close .. is willing to return to his own end to help out the defense, but needs to upgrade his defensive awareness .. average quickness of marking his man .. should improve on defensive positioning .. doesn't play afraid but isn't a significant physical force .. doesn't dish out many hard hits and relies more on his finesse skills .. prone to occasional off-shifts where he floats on the perimeter .. a versatile player who plays both center and left wing.


    http://mckeenshockey.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=581843 (2006 U18 Jr. World Cup report)

    Unfortunately, most of the other reports I found about him on the Internet are in languages I don't understand. I also have never gotten the chance to see him play, but, in addition to the above article, I've heard bits and pieces about his offensive creativity, willingness to play in traffic, and how the puck seems like it's taped to his stick when he has control of it. Schlagenhauf is a player with a wealth of offensive talent and flair who is still very raw and needs to grow into his body (6'1" 180), like many draft picks. He's not overly physical, but he's not a whimp, either. He'll take time to develop (don't expect to see him in the NHL for 3-4 years, at the very least), but whichever team is willing enough draft him and be patient will be greatly rewarded 5 years down the road.
     
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