Post-Game Talk: #55 | FLYERS (A) vs. Capitals (H) | Saturday, May 8, 2021 | Loss 2-1 (OT)

[Striiker]

Welcome to my Hayes hate train. Established 15 games into his contract, not slowed down at all by the mirage that was last year, fueled up for 5 more years.

Pretty sure @Captain Dave Poulin is here too but nobody has actually seen him, you just catch a whiff of salmon death farts every so often.

I did my best to give him a chance last year and for a while he was tolerable. But then either he got worse or I just finally started noticing the puck hogging and low IQ plays more... and more... and more... and now it's just too grating to ignore.

He's actively detrimental to his linemates a large percentage of the time.
He's not even performing as an individual while being a selfish puck hog.
When he's not producing, there's really not much left for him to do on the ice that helps the team win, since he's not even a good defensive player.
He's getting overpaid like he's a core piece
He's going to steal an expansion spot from a more deserving player.
And best part is we have the team and media shoving him down our throats constantly because they're trying to defend their big mistake.

 

[freakydallas13]

I strongly suspect Hayes and Voracek become less annoying in a system suited for what they're good at. Dump and chase ain't it

2 ultra possession players are having difficulty in a dump and chase system. Shocker.

 

[Striiker]

Difference is, even if they're in a better system, Hayes still refuses to pass and Voracek is a great passer, while obviously being much better offensively. It makes any flaws and mistakes far more tolerable.

If we need to get rid of someone to make room for a new mistake addition, it should be Hayes. Dumping Voracek or JVR and letting him stay would be terrible.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

for a while he was tolerable.

I disagree.

 

[04hockey]

1/2 the frickin' team stopped playing hard after the Holidays .....

W-H-Y ??

something happened in that locker room .....somebody will talk or we'll find out somehow, someway

damn..... a lot of "somes" in my line above

 

[deadhead]

The metrics don't jibe with that story, if they "stopped playing" how come they weren't being dominated when it comes to possession and scoring chances?

 

[Larry44]

Pretty sure we are co captaining it. I just got tired of writing long write up of all the razors I hate him some time near the end of last season.

I volunteer for Conductor. I was on the train before he signed….

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

I volunteer for Conductor. I was on the train before he signed….

As long as we don't lose sight of who is the literal Captain of this f***ing train.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

As long as we don't lose sight of who is the literal Captain of this f***ing train.

 

[deadhead]

Season:
Hayes CF 49.08%, CFrel -2.23, xGF 51.09%, xGFrel +2.17, xGF/60: 2.23, HDCA/60: 9.56, On-ice 7.02%, Sh 8.79%, pp/60: 1.54, 2nd A/60: 0.17
Voracek CF 50.88%,CFrel -0.03, xGF 47.77%, xGFrel -3.12, xGF/60: 2.16, HDCA/60: 10.75, On-ice 10.76%, Sh 10.81%, pp/60: 2.43, 2nd A: 0.78

Last 40 games:
Hayes CF 50.59%, CFrel -3.31, xGF 51.20%, xGFrel -0.03, xGF/60: 2.24, HDCA/60: 10.27, On-ice 5.11%, Sh 5.97%, pp/60: 0.96, 2nd A/60: 0.00
Voracek CF 53.86%, CFrel -2.23, xGF 49.58%, xGFrel -2.92, xGF/60: 2.23, HDCA/60: 10.77, On-ice 9.24%, Sh 8.06%, pp/60: 2.30, 2nd A/60: 0.92

Voracek
G 373
Hayes 171
Couts 167
Lindblom 119
TK 99

Hayes
Farabee 227
TK 225
Laughton 189
Voracek 171
Patrick 103

 

[04hockey]

The metrics don't jibe with that story, if they "stopped playing" how come they weren't being dominated when it comes to possession and scoring chances?

metrics, smetrics ..... when have they consistently been "up on their skates" the last few months ?

playing FOR EACH OTHER ?

stop with the metrics, percentages, yada yada yada .....it's just effin' hockey

 

[Starat327]

facepalm.gif

 

[Kelmitchell2]

So how was York? Idc about the rest of the game. Just solely how he played

 

[Striiker]

Anyone know where I can find hugs/60?

NaturalStatTrick doesn't have it and I don't see it on any of the other sites either.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

So how was York? Idc about the rest of the game. Just solely how he played

This is one lengthy account:

York shows his strengths in anticipated debut as Flyers earn youth-led win

Otherwise, there shouldn't be too much negativity applied to how he played against Washington. Most accounts said he looked comfortable.