Dr. Ogrodnick
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- Jan 10, 2007
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Please don't suck Henrik. Nobody wants to see Hellberg tonight. No need to let up a slow dribbler through the 5 hole in honor of Raanta's child either.
this is just
i do not understand this fear of playing raanta and the corresponding belief that playing hank is the only way to the playoffs. and once there, hank is the only way to the cup.
ive read that alot here. i dont get it.
who did the pens win the cup with last season ? matt murray
to me when i read that i read this, " we must play hank, he will get upset and then he might be mad and then what ?" play bad? um...... well, hes not playing that great now.
play hank and miss the playoffs ? wha ?
play raanta only 5 games more ? what if bad henrik continues to flop around and whiff on cream puffs ?
then what ?
play them BOTH. play who ever gives us the best chance to win
period.
Matt Murray was the best goaltender prospect in the entire league. And he was backing up MAF who lost his job because he was injured, but also had the reputation of being hot garbage in the playoffs specifically.
Not really comparable to Hank-Raanta.
And it's not about Hank's feelings. It's about him being able to work into a rhythm. That is a real thing, it's not made up. Play through the struggles and find his game.
This team isn't winning anything with Raanta. Unless you think possible playoff games will be similar to his 4 game run before. He was good, but only the Chicago game was a tough one. He faced under 20 shots in the other two. People acting like Raanta is more than he is because of a good 4 game stretch is insane. He's a good backup, maybe could be a 1B one day, but to think he's going to step in and lead the team to the playoffs is crazy. Our best chance is to do everything we can to help Hank find his form. Not because of his feelings, but because it's the best chance.
this is just
i do not understand this fear of playing raanta and the corresponding belief that playing hank is the only way to the playoffs. and once there, hank is the only way to the cup.
ive read that alot here. i dont get it.
who did the pens win the cup with last season ? matt murray
to me when i read that i read this, " we must play hank, he will get upset and then he might be mad and then what ?" play bad? um...... well, hes not playing that great now.
play hank and miss the playoffs ? wha ?
play raanta only 5 games more ? what if bad henrik continues to flop around and whiff on cream puffs ?
then what ?
play them BOTH. play who ever gives us the best chance to win
period.
Matt Murray was the best goaltender prospect in the entire league. And he was backing up MAF who lost his job because he was injured, but also had the reputation of being hot garbage in the playoffs specifically.
Not really comparable to Hank-Raanta.
And it's not about Hank's feelings. It's about him being able to work into a rhythm. That is a real thing, it's not made up. Play through the struggles and find his game.
This team isn't winning anything with Raanta. Unless you think possible playoff games will be similar to his 4 game run before. He was good, but only the Chicago game was a tough one. He faced under 20 shots in the other two. People acting like Raanta is more than he is because of a good 4 game stretch is insane. He's a good backup, maybe could be a 1B one day, but to think he's going to step in and lead the team to the playoffs is crazy. Our best chance is to do everything we can to help Hank find his form. Not because of his feelings, but because it's the best chance.
Raanta+Cap Space= Stanley Cup Champs.
Should be a match for the ages.
lets think about that
do we need good henrik to win a cup ? i mean, with this roster right now, prob not gonna happen.
could we win a cup without hank and with raanta plus the cap space if hank weren't here ?
interesting thought.
you add 2 players for that 8.5 mil and play raanta and i think an argument could be made, and a strong one, that this team isnt worse and in fact, may well be better.
the last season and a half henrik and his 8.5 mil + playoffs this year = ?
OR
raanta plus 8.5 mil to spend elsewhere + playoffs this year = ?
hmmmm.....
lets think about that
do we need good henrik to win a cup ? i mean, with this roster right now, prob not gonna happen.
could we win a cup without hank and with raanta plus the cap space if hank weren't here ?
interesting thought.
you add 2 players for that 8.5 mil and play raanta and i think an argument could be made, and a strong one, that this team isnt worse and in fact, may well be better.
the last season and a half henrik and his 8.5 mil + playoffs this year = ?
OR
raanta plus 8.5 mil to spend elsewhere + playoffs this year = ?
hmmmm.....
AV put Vesey back with Stepan and Nash because the three of them play very well together and it spreads depth throughout the lineup nicely.
Vesey-Stepan-Nash
Kreider-Zibanejad-Buch/Zucc
Millers-Hayes-Buch/Zucc
Grabner-4C-Fast
Matt Murray was the best goaltender prospect in the entire league. And he was backing up MAF who lost his job because he was injured, but also had the reputation of being hot garbage in the playoffs specifically.
Not really comparable to Hank-Raanta.
And it's not about Hank's feelings. It's about him being able to work into a rhythm. That is a real thing, it's not made up. Play through the struggles and find his game.
This team isn't winning anything with Raanta. Unless you think possible playoff games will be similar to his 4 game run before. He was good, but only the Chicago game was a tough one. He faced under 20 shots in the other two. People acting like Raanta is more than he is because of a good 4 game stretch is insane. He's a good backup, maybe could be a 1B one day, but to think he's going to step in and lead the team to the playoffs is crazy. Our best chance is to do everything we can to help Hank find his form. Not because of his feelings, but because it's the best chance.
Good 4 game stretch? What about that game in Edmonton, Pittsburgh game Rangers won, game in Boston and many more games Raanta gave us reliable goaltending and best chance to win. Support Hank all you want, but do not understate what Raanta did this season.
AV should ride Hank hard for the rest of the season regardless of his play. If Hank manages to get his **** together then we might do some damage in the playoffs. If not and we end up not making the playoffs then so be it. As much as i love Raanta this team is not going anywhere with him. Might as well have a rested team ready for next season.
Hope Lundqvist responds tonight. Need him to get into a rhythm.
Yeah i guess hat two months of hot garbage play from him gets forgotten because he scored a laughable goal last game. That's such an AV decision