Lou is God
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Can you say assistant manager at the local Wal-Mart?Jack Canuck said:I think he is definately toast.
Can you say assistant manager at the local Wal-Mart?Jack Canuck said:I think he is definately toast.
Hey, maybe he can handle their rollbacks then.Lou is God said:Can you say assistant manager at the local Wal-Mart?
From their front page.Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux are working behind the scenes in New York in an effort to solve the NHL labour dispute, but they'll have to work a lot of magic to make it happen. The league and the NHLPA will meet on Saturday, but reports that a deal had already been worked out have proven to be premature at best - and at worst, wrong.
McDonald19 said:This is some new Info. I think.
from the LA Times:
http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp...y?coll=la-headlines-sports&ctrack=2&cset=true
Late Friday, the Hockey News reported that a deal was done in principle, although the NHL Players' Assn. denied the report. A source familiar with the negotiations said there was "a lot of work to be done."
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Linden and Gartner met secretly with Bettman on Thursday, a union source said, where they discussed ways to reach a deal.
That led to a proposal for a salary cap of $45 million to $46 million, plus a luxury tax of 40 cents on every dollar of salary above $40 million, to encourage teams to curb spending.
The salary cap represents a compromise between the $49 million offered by the players earlier in the week and the $42.5 million sought by owners. The cap would drop to $42 million if more than eight teams' payrolls reach $46 million in one season.
The terms can be "tweaked" but not significantly altered, the source said, adding: "They have a framework that they are prepared to go with."
Bob Goodenow, the union's executive director, was not expected to take part in the talks. Well-placed sources said Goodenow told the union's executive committee that he could not recommend such a deal, or any deal like it, and that if the committee wanted to make that deal, it would have to do so on it own.
The players' executive committee — Daniel Alfredsson, Bob Boughner, Vincent Damphousse, Bill Guerin, Arturs Irbe and Trent Klatt — decided to do just that.
"Something needed to be done," said Steve Rucchin, the Mighty Ducks' union representative, who was not involved in the committee's decision. "I guess there wasn't total closure even after the season was canceled. Things were happening. I'm not surprised at all."
Sources said training camps could be open by Feb. 28, with a 28-game season to begin about a week later.
I'm sure they are only respectfully reacting to the "denials" by both the NHL and NHLPA, I wouldn't read anything into that.Battousai said:Looks like TSN is pulling back a bit on the certainty of a deal...
From their front page.
Jaded-Fan said:If this part is true, the union is completely broken. When you basically gag and tie up in a closet your negotiator and do it yourself, you have a major problem going on.
Lou is God said:Even me???
I doubt it. "Deal still a longshot" doesn't exactly have me feeling so optimistic anymore.Lou is God said:I'm sure they are only respectfully reacting to the "denials" by both the NHL and NHLPA, I wouldn't read anything into that.
X8oD said:usually im not this negative, im and too the point where if i get banned I almost dont care...
**** off ****** Bag.
Every Pro-PA person has rode thier high horse for months because they were causing all kinds of problems. They were going to win this battle.They attacked posters who didnt agree with them. They repeated the same rhetoric Bahgdad Bob did, and failed to back it up the same way. Then, when Goodenow Proposed a cap, the Pro-PAers slowed down... Then when Goodenow Lowered his cap, all of a sudden The Pro-PAers turned to attacking the possibility of a short season.... And now that the NHL is likely back, the true fans are back in bunches, and the bandwagoners are crying saying they wont support a short season.
I dont care, Go throw more monkey **** at the wall and see what sticks. Go cheer for your minor league hockey. Go Pray to the WHA gods who are the only other people who wanted this to fail.
meanwhile, myself and a million other dedicated hockey Fans will dawn their jerseys with pride again, knowing that despite anything anybody says, Hockey saved itself. The fans, the Vets, the Legends, they wouldnt let Greed from both sides try to cash in.
I cant wait for hockey to start. The Diehards will still be here. Get off the sorrow bandwagon, cause this bandwagon just kicked into full speed, and we are pushing off the fence walkers.
Lots of steps still needed to get a new CBA in place ..flyers guy said:I doubt it. "Deal still a longshot" doesn't exactly have me feeling so optimistic anymore.
What they should do is sign a deal in principle, then as teams are getting ready, work out all the other issues.The Messenger said:Lots of steps still needed to get a new CBA in place ..
I think that the Cap figure might be the number that both sides are prepared to agree upon .. but you still have arbitration and UFA age and Revenue Sharing ..
Then when you have a agreed deal both sides take it bake for a vote .. 8 NHL owners NOT against or 375 players saying YES is what it takes .. That is unknown how that will turn out ..
Lots of hurdles still
The Messenger said:Lots of steps still needed to get a new CBA in place ..
I think that the Cap figure might be the number that both sides are prepared to agree upon .. but you still have arbitration and UFA age and Revenue Sharing ..
Then when you have a agreed deal both sides take it bake for a vote .. 8 NHL owners NOT against or 375 players saying YES is what it takes .. That is unknown how that will turn out ..
Lots of hurdles still
That was merely blind optimism spread across the hockey world by people who didn't understand how far apart they really were.Tricolore#20 said:I don't doubt it, but why then was there some optimism on Tuesday night, when Goodenow made the 49 million proposal, fairly late in the afternoon?
Lou is God said:Can you say assistant manager at the local Wal-Mart?
X8oD said:Hradek just said that ESPN threatning to pull the plug in the US really got this going. Hate to be an ass, but ESPN deserves some thanks. I strongly believe they got this going.
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krt88 said:How does this make the NHL better?
More than half the teams are struggling with their current payrolls and this deal is well above their current payrolls.
Now, I understand that this deal will prevent the Rangers, red Wings, Flyers and others from driving up free agent contracts by massively overpaying players but serious, how does this help Calgary, Edmonton, Buffalo, etc.
These clubs will still struggle to meet payroll.
These clubs will still have to charge $40 a ticket.
I just don't understand this deal. Maybe I'll get it when some details come out but if I owned a small market team, I'd reject this. The cap is too high compared to the league revenues.