3rd Line Discussions
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LaPlante94
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Johnson will most likely be on Matthews or Tavares LW since he played with Matthews last season and Hyman is out for a few weeks. So I can see Moore or Mikeyhev as the 3rd line LW. RW situation could be interesting because who knows when/if Marner signs a new contract so Tavares could have a new RW also for a bit until that's figured out. I could see lines like this when healthy:
Hyman=Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Mikeyhev/Moore-Kerfoot-Kapanen
Moore/Mikeyhev-Speeza-Shore/Aberg/Petan/Wilson/5 others fighting for this spot tbh haha
Hyman=Tavares-Marner
Johnsson-Matthews-Nylander
Mikeyhev/Moore-Kerfoot-Kapanen
Moore/Mikeyhev-Speeza-Shore/Aberg/Petan/Wilson/5 others fighting for this spot tbh haha
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ottomaddox
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I see Kapanen there and everyone else is blurry.
We don't know if Spezza is playing the 4th line, and we certainly don't know if Kerfoot can play 3rd line C.
We don't know if Spezza is playing the 4th line, and we certainly don't know if Kerfoot can play 3rd line C.
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LaPlante94
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We wouldn't have traded Kadri with Kerfoot as one of the pieces coming back and not playing C for us. The only way Speeza is not the 4th line C is if Marner doesn't play and Kapanen plays RW on Tavares wing and Speeza plays 3rd line RW.
Kerfoot will surprise many I believe. We may end up with a very effective 3rd line, the depth we expected to have last year.
Moore - Kerfoot - Kappy on paper is a headache to opposing 3rd pairing D and also responsible in their own end, plus can win face-offs.
Speaking of face-offs, Tavares/Matthews/Kerfoot/Spezza is probably the best face-off center group in the league which is huge for a possession-based team.
ottomaddox
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How much C had Kerfoot played? Are you kidding me? Just because a media person pencils him in on the 3rd line doesn't mean he's going to be it.
I don't buy your Spezza logic (at all).
Also you do the Kadri deal all day because you're getting Barrie who is a very capable RHD. That deal didn't fall into place because he said "ok, but you have to include a 3rd line center".
I like that third line, I am just happy Kappy is not with Matthews, they just seemed to not work well together.
ottomaddox
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Yea Kappy doesn't have the playmaking ability to compliment Matthews. He's sort of a fast finisher with tunnel vision most of the time. So on the 3rd line he'll be the "Matthews-lite" and Kerfoot will be his playmaker.
It's why Matthews and Marner should be glued together but luckily Nylander is a great playmaker too so we can afford to spread out the talent.
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Faceoff % Wins:
Tavares - 54.4% (1528 total)
Matthews - 52.1% (911)
Kerfoot - 56% (489)
Spezza - 58.2% (807)
Kadri was 55.2% with 730 total, so similar to Kerfoot
We were ranked #2 last year so I mean it's not an exaggeration to say we're gonna be one of the best faceoff teams this year.
Hopefully Spezza teaches Matthews how to master the faceoff technique.
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Unless we have lots of injuries, I don't see who Kerfoot beats out in the top 6. If he's on the 3rd line, it's going to be as a center. He's too good for the 4th line. That's why everyone assumes where he's going to be, just makes the most sense. Might not happen that way, who knows.
Spezza is far too slow and defensively unreliable to be the 3rd line center. He will be used sparingly as a faceoff specialist.
Spezza is far too slow and defensively unreliable to be the 3rd line center. He will be used sparingly as a faceoff specialist.
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Acquiring Barrie was definitely a significant part of that trade. However, he is in his walk year. Without Kerfoot in the deal, it might have been three years of Kadri and a likely top six d-man in Rosen for a one and done chance. Kerfoot's new contract also suggests at least a third liner in some capacity.
Can honestly say for the first time in a long time I have no clue what our 3rd and 4th line is going to look like.
So many options and players that are being slept on from the Marlies i.e. Bracco. With Hyman out, and no Kadri to automatically slot into 3C, everything is really wide open.
......... of course how we look at the start of the season can and will look markedly different by the time the playoffs roll around.....
Stay tuned!
So many options and players that are being slept on from the Marlies i.e. Bracco. With Hyman out, and no Kadri to automatically slot into 3C, everything is really wide open.
......... of course how we look at the start of the season can and will look markedly different by the time the playoffs roll around.....
Stay tuned!
LaPlante94
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Took 500 faceoffs and winning around 56% of them. Yeah he's also played wing but if you thought we traded Kadri to bring Kerfoot in as a winger then idk what to tell you.
Idk why you wouldn't buy the Speeza logic at all. Speeza would most likely play RW on the 3rd line or C while Kerfoot plays wing if Marner isn't playing. Gauthier is really our only other C option and I don't think they want him in the lineup fulltime.
Barrie has 1 year left on his deal and Colorado ate 50% of his contract and we're unlikely to keep him after this season. We already re signed Kerfoot to a 4 year 3.5 million dollar deal which is 1 million less than Kadris. You don't trade Kadri who was on a damn good contract for 1 year of Barrie without finding someone who can help step in to fill Kadris role as the 3rd C and is cheaper.
It's really not wide open at all. There's realistically maybe 5 players to choose from for 3 spots on the 3rd line.
LeafalCrusader
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This. Mikeyhev and Moore both get top 9 spots till Hyman gets back then one stays with Kerfoot and Kappy while the other moves to the 4th line with Spezza and whoever
While Hymens out:
Mikheyev - Matthews - Nylander
Johnsson - Tavares - Marner
Moore - Kerfoot - Kappy
When Hymen gets back Johnsson slots down to 3rd LW and Moore slots down to 4th LW. This is what we can expect as long as everyone can handle their role. If Mikheyev can't he may end up on the 3rd LW.
LeafalCrusader
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Part of me worries Babs is going to keep Nylander on the 3rd line with Kerfoot and put Kappy with Matthews. I know it doesn't make sense but we all know how much he loves Willy.
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I wouldn't right off Agostino as a potential 3rd liner. He's one of the few forwards on the team who plays with any level of physicality and has performed well on 3rd line usage. He might be on the 3rd line with Kappy and Kerfoot to start the year over Moore.
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