Value of: 3OA + Galchenyuk

[Spearmint Rhino]

What in the world does one need to do to be considered as a "quality" forward if 50 points is not enough?

Wear a different jersey is my guess

 

[Scintillating10]

PK Subban.

Don't really want him back here. But he is rumoured to be on the block again. However, I see Subban back in Montreal when he becomes a UFA in 4 years. He loved the spotlight of Montreal and the fans loved him

 

[Pierre Lebrun]

Panthers give up something like Bjugstad + 15OA + Mascherin?

 

[Halla]

What in the world does one need to do to be considered as a "quality" forward if 50 points is not enough?

not be on the ice for twice as many goals against while getting that 50pts ?
at least being able to match a bottom 6 forward like paul byron in goals?

habs fans have made it clear they dont wanna part with quality forward alex galchenyuk in a ROR deal.
who needs a 60+pt 2 way C anyways? as one habs fan pointed out, he is ALREADY 27! (3 months ago)

 

[Halla]

Panthers give up something like Bjugstad + 15OA + Mascherin?

i think this is gonna get roasted if Nuge + 10 is "awful"

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

Panthers give up something like Bjugstad + 15OA + Mascherin?

Still not enough, I think.

 

[Halla]

Chucky is absolutely a quality young forward, 50 pts on one of the worst teams in the league while getting 3rd line minutes most of the year is very good. He's -34 for his career, the whole team sucked this past year and you're judging him on plus minus? If the coach ever pulled his head out of the GMs ass and gave him a shot at C you'd even see better numbers

I dont see him as a C and i dont think the habs do either. they need a quality C to insulate these young forwards like chucky,gally,drouin, zadina?, etc

would habs fans do patches for carter straight up?

Drouin-Carter-Gally
Chucky-Danault-Zadina

thats a BIG improvement. still need another top 6 C in an ideal world though

 

[Hostile Offer]

not be on the ice for twice as many goals against while getting that 50pts ?
at least being able to match a bottom 6 forward like paul byron in goals?

habs fans have made it clear they dont wanna part with quality forward alex galchenyuk in a ROR deal.
who needs a 60+pt 2 way C anyways? as one habs fan pointed out, he is ALREADY 27! (3 months ago)

I'd give up Galchenyuk for ROR but that does not make him not a quality forward. It's like you're blaming him for the goals we let in when he's on the ice which is absolutely ridiculous especially considering he's a winger with minimal defensive assignments (because you're right, his defensive play is lousy).

 

[Hostile Offer]

I dont see him as a C and i dont think the habs do either. they need a quality C to insulate these young forwards like chucky,gally,drouin, zadina?, etc

would habs fans do patches for carter straight up?

Drouin-Carter-Gally
Chucky-Danault-Zadina

thats a BIG improvement. still need another top 6 C in an ideal world though

Would much rather trade Patches for futures and look for other solutions than Carter to fix our centre problem.

 

[Gaston Gingras]

Galchenyuk + 3OA for ROR
Galchenyuk + 3OA for Nuge +10 OA
Galchenyuk + 3OA for Carter +20 OA

NO!
NO!
NO!

 

[Habsawce]

Panthers give up something like Bjugstad + 15OA + Mascherin?

Maybe for the 3rd overall alone. Definitely wouldn't add Galchenyuk to that, who is easily the best player of the 3. Montreal would be giving up the 2 best assets by a good margin.

 

[Deficient Mode]

Panthers give up something like Bjugstad + 15OA + Mascherin?

That's a bad return for 3 OA. Wing prospect (Habs already have an abundance of good wings) who doesn't want to sign and a 2-3 line center doesn't make up the huge gap between 3 OA and 15 OA. Panthers need to give up a higher quality piece if they want 3 OA.

 

[Deficient Mode]

I dont see him as a C and i dont think the habs do either. they need a quality C to insulate these young forwards like chucky,gally,drouin, zadina?, etc

would habs fans do patches for carter straight up?

Drouin-Carter-Gally
Chucky-Danault-Zadina

thats a BIG improvement. still need another top 6 C in an ideal world though

Gally? Brendan Gallagher needs insulation??? Yeah, I don't think so. I'm comfortable having him on the ice against anyone in any situation. He's still such a dominant player playing with mediocre centers (mostly Plekanec).

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

Habs probably don't need a "top 6" or 2nd line center. A year from now, Poehling and Danault can fill in nicely as 2/3 C. Veleno doesn't have the offensive upside to be a 1C.

I wouldn’t jump the gun so quickly on Veleno. Just looking at his stats it’s hard to see him as a future #1 C, but if you look at how he played with Drummondville this year you see a player with a lot of skill. Think it’s too early to write him off as not skilled enough to play 1C, but I do see him as more as a solid #2z Kotkaniemi looks like his ceiling may be higher.

 

[Be a Hab]

not be on the ice for twice as many goals against while getting that 50pts ?
at least being able to match a bottom 6 forward like paul byron in goals?

habs fans have made it clear they dont wanna part with quality forward alex galchenyuk in a ROR deal.
who needs a 60+pt 2 way C anyways? as one habs fan pointed out, he is ALREADY 27! (3 months ago)

Yes we would,we just wouldn’t add the 3rd overall pick because that’s an overpayment.

Galchenyuk+ for Ryan O’Reilly is fair but we need to agree what that plus + is, assuming Buffalo is interested in Galchenyuk.

 

[Deficient Mode]

I wouldn’t jump the gun so quickly on Veleno. Just looking at his stats it’s hard to see him as a future #1 C, but if you look at how he played with Drummondville this year you see a player with a lot of skill. Think it’s too early to write him off as not skilled enough to play 1C, but I do see him as more as a solid #2z Kotkaniemi looks like his ceiling may be higher.

I'm going mostly off the scouting reports I've seen than off stats. It sounds like Veleno doesn't really do anything especially creative with the puck and makes fairly simple offensive plays.

 

[Kairi Zaide]

In true Bergevin fashion, 3rd overall + Galchenyuk for Toews +

After this trade, Bergevin, in his press conference, mentions that the Habs now have the same core (Price, Weber and Toews) that lead Canada to Olympic Gold in 2010 and 2014.

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

lmfao, stop ur not good at this

lmfao, stop ur not good at this

Lol if we’re trading old centers and a late first, Minnesota will give you Staal + 24

 

[sheed36]

carter is the same age as weber. interesting to hear habs fans talk like he is ancient but weber has a lot let in the tank...especially considering carter had 32g/66pts 2 years ago and had a 40g/67pt pace this past season

for the record i think the habs need to keep the pick and rebuild, but thats not what this thread is about obviously

Doesn't matter if the Habs need to rebuild or not you still can't keep trading young assets for players into their 30's. If Carter were 27 years old it would be a different story but trading a 3rd overall + a 24 year old Galchenyuk who along with Gallagher was probably the Habs best player last season would be a very bad move in this deal IMO. The Leafs tried that strategy years ago with bringing in older players and where did that get them. I'd rather re-sign Pacioretty than trade the 3rd overall + Galchenyuk for Carter + 20th overall and I want Pacioretty gone ASAP.

Who knows how much Weber has left in the tank. All I know is his value on HF is considered a lot less than what you're valuing Carter in this thread.

 

[BatVader]

The only ones who value RNH this high are Oilers fans.
The rest see him for what he is.
Overpayed 2nd line C.... not what the Habs need.
Trade him elsewhere because he isn’t a fit or a need or a want in Montreal.

 

[Gravity]

Wanna see Drouin at C for one more year? Yeah me neither.

If it means getting Hughes next year rather than finishing 9th, I'd like it.

 

[Hostile Offer]

If it means getting Hughes next year rather than finishing 9th, I'd like it.

Finishing 9th might still get us Hughes. And no, we didn't trade for Drouin just to destroy his career.

 

[Gravity]

Finishing 9th might still get us Hughes. And no, we didn't trade for Drouin just to destroy his career.

Put Plekanec at 1C for all I care. No more band aids

 

[tradenashnow]

What can this package get the Habs in return?

9th overall, Skjei, Buchnevich, Day and Spooner.

 

[General Fanager]

Its starting to get funny on this site. The Habs needs a few top centers pretty badly and i am sure they will overpay to get them but its laughable some of the lowball offers here.....